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J - 28 Jun 2004 10:59 GMT
There's a weid post on the newsgroup.  It's crossposted to other
newsgroups.
It's nothing to do with our Maggie at all...

Best to just skip over it and not reply to it.
It's not just this newsgroup. It or similar is being posted to many
newsgroups.
Trollls....(troublemakers).

Above all, please don't let it upset you.
This newsgroup is pretty good for not having lots of posts like that. For
this, we need to be truly grateful :-)
Hugs to all
J
Bruce - 28 Jun 2004 14:29 GMT
> There's a weid post on the newsgroup.  It's crossposted to other
> newsgroups.
> It's nothing to do with our Maggie at all...
J

Morning J :)))

I see you caught another bad post from a troll !
We are very lucky that there are so few here , but with schools out our
newbys here can expect more than normal.
Now one from me to you J.  celebrex , Marcia is on it , but I here that
there is a study that it may have more bad points than good. Would you be so
kind as to see what your search skills can find ?

Bruce On. " and I always support our Maggie , no matter what bridge she is
living under :))) "
J - 28 Jun 2004 15:40 GMT
> Morning J :)))
>
> I see you caught another bad post from a troll !
> We are very lucky that there are so few here , but with schools out our
> newbys here can expect more than normal.

Morning Bruce :))) Good to see ya !
Hopefully not, but maybe you're right.

> Now one from me to you J.  celebrex , Marcia is on it , but I here that
> there is a study that it may have more bad points than good. Would you be so
> kind as to see what your search skills can find ?

Not sure what points. Some of these I've seen on newsgroups
There's a claim that they "bent the rules" when producing study results as to GI
bleeding or other.
I also saw mention of heart and kidney (so I'll let you pick through these)
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/3076836/
http://www.arthritisinformation.net/Ibuprofen/page1.htm
http://my.webmd.com/content/article/83/97855.htm
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2004/06/040622013550.htm

These two are more about how somebody lied ...
http://www.mercola.com/2002/jun/12/celebrex.htm
http://www.mercola.com/2002/jun/12/celebrex.htm

If none of this is what you're looking for, you'll have to be more specific
and/or I'll have to think on how to search it better.

> Bruce On. " and I always support our Maggie , no matter what bridge she is
> living under :))) "

Yep, well, the only bridge I want to see her under, is in Venice, with XXX and
the boat paddler serenading them. :-))
J
janers - 28 Jun 2004 20:25 GMT
Hi Brucie BG>

There is a new thing now,  the vioxx is helping to attribute to MORE
problems with Congestive heart failure.  Celebrex does not but it still
does come with a warning that is causes bleeding ulcerations of stomach.
LIKE all NSAIDS.  so if you weigh the options, like I am.

I use the celebrex  myself.  If you have some kind of allergic reaction to
sulfa, well the say you can't take celebrex either, but some do.  figure
that one out.   Has to do with chemical makeup of the drug.

They all mess with the gut, believe me. SO if Marsha doesn't have to take
it all the time, then that is better too.

YOU behaving?

me who else
J - 29 Jun 2004 00:40 GMT
> Hi Brucie BG>
>
> There is a new thing now,  the vioxx is helping to attribute to MORE
> problems with Congestive heart failure.  Celebrex does not but it still
> does come with a warning that is causes bleeding ulcerations of stomach.
> LIKE all NSAIDS.  so if you weigh the options, like I am.

http://www.clevelandclinic.org/heartcenter/pub/history/timeline/2001.asp
Raising a Cautionary Flag About COX-2 Use in High-Risk Heart Patients: Eric J.
Topol, M.D., and Steven E. Nissen, M.D., Chairman and Vice-Chairman of
cardiovascular medicine at The Cleveland Clinic, performed a retrospective
review of the original data submitted to the FDA in the randomized multicenter
safety trials of rofecoxib (Vioxx) and Celecoxib (Celebrex). They found
physicians should use caution when prescribing COX-2 inhibitors to patients
with known coronary disease since these anti-inflammatory agents may lead to
an increase in risk of heart attack and stroke.
(I guess someone would have to get the study to find out more details
Hugs
sleepie

> I use the celebrex  myself.  If you have some kind of allergic reaction to
> sulfa, well the say you can't take celebrex either, but some do.  figure
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>
> me who else
Maggie - 28 Jun 2004 19:47 GMT
Too funny!  It's gotta be about the Simpson's cartoon, I think.  But
that's Marge Simpson, not Maggie.  I dunno...I was too scared to click
it on!  @¿@

Oh & that's 2 strikes, Brucie!  LOL!

Hugs4uBoth,
Maggie
 
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