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RhondaM - 14 Jun 2004 18:53 GMT
My kids are fascinated by the new movie The Pirates of the Caribbean. I was
wondering if anyone has any info on pirates of today, and the history of
them. I want my teens to see who they really were and to look beyond
hollywoods "history" of pirates.

RhondaM
Mair - 14 Jun 2004 19:40 GMT
I think the industrial revolution put pirates out of business... at least
the ones who wear a patch over their eye and jump into the hold of a ship
with their swords bared.  Someone please correct me if I am wrong.

I would say the "Pirates" of today are terrorists, hijakers, and computer
hackers.

Pigmet is very interested to know if there really are treasure pirates,
because treasure hunting is his hobby.  He felt too embarrassed to write
this, so I am writing it for him (he is here at my side, cringing)... Aw,
Pigmet!  Someone will give you a nice, kind answer, you'll see!

Thanking you in Advance

Mair (and Pigmet)

> My kids are fascinated by the new movie The Pirates of the Caribbean. I was
> wondering if anyone has any info on pirates of today, and the history of
> them. I want my teens to see who they really were and to look beyond
> hollywoods "history" of pirates.
>
> RhondaM
RhondaM - 14 Jun 2004 20:47 GMT
Pigment we will only talk about storybook pirates and treasure huntin' no
real ones.
Only make believe.
I did find were there are still real ones off the coast of South America. A
long ways away Pigment so do not be afraid. Ok now we will def not talk
about the scary ones.
You know Treasure huntin is allot of fun. Once when we were kids we would
set out in the neighborhood and do a scavenger hunt it would take all day
and it was the best time ever. Also in camp one year we did a treasure hunt
and that was so much fun too. I wonder if I could get my kids interested in
a treasure hunt of some sorts to pass the summer days. I wonder if it could
include the library finding passages in books or certain pictures of things
and articles in magazines and books. I bet I could reward with a nice prize
of something neat. If you have any ideas let me know...

> I think the industrial revolution put pirates out of business... at least
> the ones who wear a patch over their eye and jump into the hold of a ship
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> >
> > RhondaM
Beverley - 15 Jun 2004 00:58 GMT
One year when my kids were teen/ preteen we had a treasure hunt as part of a
birthday fun thing. We sent these kids out in the neighborhood looking for
all sorts of stuff. (We also warned the neighbors ahead of time!!) Each kid
got a list of about 25 things, all simple things such as a Juicy-fruit gum
wrapper, a Crayola crayon in peacock blue, a straight pin with a red ball on
the end of it, a 12 inch piece of string, a 12 inch piece of yellow yarn, or
a plastic bag from a particular food store. It kept them occupied forever!!
Most everything on the list could be considered trash so it wasn't as if
they were begging good stuff from everyone. About an hour later (we did set
a time limit) all the kids returned. We had several who managed to get
everything and a few only managed to obtain a couple of things. I'd say it
is a great time for cul-de-sac kids or those who live in a good neighborhood
or apartment building where you know your neighbors. We had special prizes
waiting for winners. The first winner was able to choose which prize, second
place chose next, etc. Being it was summer and everyone of the kids lived at
the pool the prizes were things like goggles, suntan lotion, pool toys, etc.
I'll make bets most of those kids never forgot their treasure hunt.

Doing a library hunt could be loads of fun. Bet if you talked to your local
librarian he/she would help you put together a library treasure hunt. I
think it is a great idea. Winner gets a gift certificate to Barnes and Noble
so they can choose a book of their choice.
Bev

> Pigment we will only talk about storybook pirates and treasure huntin' no
> real ones.
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> > >
> > > RhondaM
Beverley - 15 Jun 2004 00:33 GMT
My knowledge of pirates is limited but they were the bad guys!! They
hijacked other ships and stole stuff (treasure as in gold, bounty and
booze).

I have a friend and her last name was Hallett she was related to a very
famous sea captain from the New England area. And she married a Morgan who
just happened to be related to a very famous pirate. It was always just a
good laugh within the family.

So piracy (stealing) is a little different from treasure hunting. Although
there are people today making their living searching the ocean floor looking
for ships that sank with lots of gold and other neat stuff on them. These
guys searching today are not pirates. They have permits to do what they are
doing and it is a business. You can often see these treasure hunts on your
PBS station - always fascinating!!!
Bev

> I think the industrial revolution put pirates out of business... at least
> the ones who wear a patch over their eye and jump into the hold of a ship
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> >
> > RhondaM
Bruce - 14 Jun 2004 19:43 GMT
Hi Rhonda :)))

If you type in " pirates facts & legends " it will give all the childern
need on pirates , history , and thire own laws !
Bruce On.

> My kids are fascinated by the new movie The Pirates of the Caribbean. I was
> wondering if anyone has any info on pirates of today, and the history of
> them. I want my teens to see who they really were and to look beyond
> hollywoods "history" of pirates.
>
> RhondaM
J - 14 Jun 2004 21:11 GMT
> My kids are fascinated by the new movie The Pirates of the Caribbean. I was
> wondering if anyone has any info on pirates of today, and the history of
> them. I want my teens to see who they really were and to look beyond
> hollywoods "history" of pirates.
>
> RhondaM

some examples of pirates of today:
http://www.janes.com/security/law_enforcement/news/ipr/ipr000105-2.shtml
http://www.iccwbo.org/ccs/menu_imb_bureau.asp
http://www.cdnn.info/article/pirate/pirate.html
http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/2004/05/31/stories/2004053100140600.htm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/3092373.stm

Depending on their ages, they may find some of this information hard to
understand.
Hugs
J
David Humble - 15 Jun 2004 15:07 GMT
You may also want to look up some information about Oak Island in Nova
Scotia Canada. Which is the location of a real site of buried pirate
treasure! Okay, so that is a little melo-dramatic, but there is
supposedly burtried treasure there and no one has yet manage to dig it
up and live. Spooky!
Treasure hunting is legal in Nova Scotia as well. And with all the
shipwrecks off the coast some people have been able to find some good
things. Also, piracy was legal in Nova Scotia at one point as well.
Check out Barett's Privateers. Legal Piracy.
There are ofcourse sitll pirates in interational waters as well. I think
someone also mentioned that around South America.
For a fun activity check out "International Talk Like a Pirate Day"
around Septemeber 19. Always a fun day to put on a patch and go Yar!

dave

>>My kids are fascinated by the new movie The Pirates of the Caribbean. I was
>>wondering if anyone has any info on pirates of today, and the history of
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> Hugs
> J
Pigmet - 15 Jun 2004 23:19 GMT
Yar!

Good day,
Pigmet

> You may also want to look up some information about Oak Island in Nova
> Scotia Canada. Which is the location of a real site of buried pirate
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> > http://www.iccwbo.org/ccs/menu_imb_bureau.asp
> > http://www.cdnn.info/article/pirate/pirate.html

http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/2004/05/31/stories/2004053100140600.htm
> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/3092373.stm
> >
> > Depending on their ages, they may find some of this information hard to
> > understand.
> > Hugs
> > J
David Humble - 20 Jun 2004 16:49 GMT
Just when you thought it was safe to raise the jolly roger.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=583&e=9&u=/nm/20040618/od_nm/sec
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dave

> Yar!
>
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>>>Hugs
>>>J
Shelagh - 20 Jun 2004 17:42 GMT
Wishing all you 'dads' out there a happy day today!
The first day of summer and father's day rolled into one!
Beautiful weather here and wishing the same for everyone!
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Hugs from Shelagh
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> Just when you thought it was safe to raise the jolly roger.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=583&e=9&u=/nm/20040618/od_nm/sec
urity_indonesia_malacca_dc


> dave
>
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> >>>http://www.iccwbo.org/ccs/menu_imb_bureau.asp
> >>>http://www.cdnn.info/article/pirate/pirate.html

http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/2004/05/31/stories/2004053100140600.htm

> >>>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/3092373.stm
> >>>
> >>>Depending on their ages, they may find some of this information hard to
> >>>understand.
> >>>Hugs
> >>>J
 
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