I thought this was interesting. While I was in the ER the head honcho doctor
said that he was surprised I wasn't on BP meds as he almost never sees a
lupus patient who does not have a problem with BP. I questioned his broad
statement and he replied that it is just a vulnerable area for lupus to
effect. Therefore it should have been watched much closer on me.
Ok, so how many of you guys are on BP meds and how many are not and if not
how closely does your doctor watch your BP?
Bev
Shelagh - 04 Jun 2004 23:15 GMT
For me BP was a first symptom which caught the renal and the
cardiac valvular type probs.
I for one, have been on bp meds x 3 for many many years!
Anyone else?
fwiw.........hth from Shelagh
> I thought this was interesting. While I was in the ER the head honcho doctor
> said that he was surprised I wasn't on BP meds as he almost never sees a
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> how closely does your doctor watch your BP?
> Bev
J - 04 Jun 2004 23:17 GMT
> I thought this was interesting. While I was in the ER the head honcho doctor
> said that he was surprised I wasn't on BP meds as he almost never sees a
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> how closely does your doctor watch your BP?
> Bev
Hi Bev, I guess he'd have to define "BP problem". I could be remembering wrong,
but I think BJ's is low.
I can't find it in the FAQ. If it were a general rule, it should be there, but
I'm not sure that high BP is common in all Lupus patients...
maybe someone else can clear this up for us..
Hugs
J
doe - 05 Jun 2004 00:04 GMT
>Subject: Re: BTW - BP and lupus?
>From: J jacques@example.com
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>J
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KCat - 04 Jun 2004 23:21 GMT
> Ok, so how many of you guys are on BP meds and how many are not and if not
> how closely does your doctor watch your BP?
> Bev
Not I. In fact, I run too low much of the time, resulting in brown-outs.
Certain meds can make this worse. Tricyclic ADs for example - I took
Trazadone as a sleep med for about a year and I just got tired of collapsing
every time I stood up.
I think probably what this doc is really seeing is the effect of medications
and not a general statement about BP in lupus patients. I've never heard of
any correlation which of course doesn't mean it isn't there. I've just
never heard of it. Dr. Wallace doesn't mention it.
however, steroids can cause increased bp as can some of the
serotonin-reuptake inhibitors that some patients take. There may be other
drugs that can cause this that are used in lupus patients. Inactivity due
to the pain of the disease can result in weight gain and other problems that
might lead to subsequent blood pressure changes. I just don't think there
is a *direct* connection.

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herbwormwood - 09 Jun 2004 11:57 GMT
Hi,
I did have high blood pressure for many years, party due to kidney
problems and partly due to prednisolone.
I was on a few differerent blood pressure meds and adopted strict low
salt diet, on medical advice, with a big restriction on processed food
and tinned food.
For the past 10 years or so my BP has been normal without BP meds and
occasionallly low. I also cut out meat and later cut out all animal
products, so my diet is naturally low in salt. Initially the medical
advice as against red meat, but I went a bit further!
>> Ok, so how many of you guys are on BP meds and how many are not and if not
>> how closely does your doctor watch your BP?
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> might lead to subsequent blood pressure changes. I just don't think there
> is a *direct* connection.

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Sherry - 04 Jun 2004 23:39 GMT
Bev, according to Dr Wallace in "The Lupus Book"
pg 97-98
"Monitoring blood pressure during each office visit is a good medical
practice. Hypertension, defined as blood pressure greater than 140/90, is
observed in 25 to 30 percent of patients with systemic lupus. The most
common causes are kidney disease and long term steriod use. There are no
special considerations unique to managing hypertension in lupus patients,
since it usually responds to conventional regimens. Untreated or
inadequately treated blood pressure can minimally cause headaches, but
hypertension can also lead to stroke, cardiac failure, and heart attack."
pg 112
"Lupus patients develop strokes, hypertension, psychiatric disorders,
malignancies, aneurisms, and parkinson's disease at the same or greater
frequency as healthy people. However, an established diagnosis of lupus
clues the physician into considering other possiblilites in evaluating CNS."
Sherry
> I thought this was interesting. While I was in the ER the head honcho doctor
> said that he was surprised I wasn't on BP meds as he almost never sees a
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> how closely does your doctor watch your BP?
> Bev
KCat - 04 Jun 2004 23:45 GMT
<good info from Dr. Wallace>
Well, you showed me, eh? :-) I looked. Guess I didn't look hard enough. :P
kcat
Sherry - 05 Jun 2004 00:00 GMT
I almost gave up in Dr Wallace's book since it was not under the heading of
blood pressure but I did find it under hypertension. Wasn't trying to show
ya up.
Hugs,
Sherry
> <good info from Dr. Wallace>
>
> Well, you showed me, eh? :-) I looked. Guess I didn't look hard enough.
:P
>
> kcat
KCat - 05 Jun 2004 05:42 GMT
> I almost gave up in Dr Wallace's book since it was not under the heading of
> blood pressure but I did find it under hypertension. Wasn't trying to show
> ya up.
>
> Hugs,
> Sherry
just messin' with ya. I felt silly, but not offended. :-)
RhondaM - 05 Jun 2004 00:48 GMT
I have it too. In fact funny that this is a topic since I am having a time
controlling it lately. Today I went to see my family doc cause I was having
chest pain when I was breathing in on my right side; I have a right bundle
branch block. My bp was 150/110! I am on Benecar with HCTZ in it. I am
thinking it is not enough and that I need to go see my cardiologist to get
my meds adjusted as well as mentioning my chest pain. My family doc did not
think much of it, but we all know how that goes...The other night I was
really upset and I was having chest pain on my right side that was stabbing
through like a knife then the pain went down my right arm. I think by just
writing this and putting this all together I need to go visit my
cardiologist again. I do believe that Lupus flares and BP go hand in hand.
RhondaM
> I thought this was interesting. While I was in the ER the head honcho doctor
> said that he was surprised I wasn't on BP meds as he almost never sees a
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> how closely does your doctor watch your BP?
> Bev
REP - 05 Jun 2004 06:27 GMT
> Ok, so how many of you guys are on BP meds and how many are not and if not
> how closely does your doctor watch your BP?
Remember, I'm not lupie; just a person with similar symptoms and
reactions. I am in early kidney failure, and kidney disease is almost
always associated with high BP. Mine is currently 80/40 (very very low),
down from 90/50 and I am monitored closely because of this. I've always
had very low blood pressure, but it's been even lower than usual lately.
It's good news for my kidneys, but the syncope, dizziness and added
fatigue are no fun.

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Andy - 05 Jun 2004 08:20 GMT
>I thought this was interesting. While I was in the ER the head honcho doctor
>said that he was surprised I wasn't on BP meds as he almost never sees a
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>how closely does your doctor watch your BP?
>Bev
This may not be as simple as it seems.. I know several lupies who are on
meds typically prescribed for BP problems, but the primary reason they
were prescribed it was "to thin the blood" (OK, one side effect of which
is to lower the BP)

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Chaos Hill - 05 Jun 2004 16:15 GMT
I was on BP meds for a few years, still watch very closely - somehow with
diet and supplements I got it down, however there is also a cholesterol
issue that my doc says is also normal for us Lupies
Leslie
> I thought this was interesting. While I was in the ER the head honcho doctor
> said that he was surprised I wasn't on BP meds as he almost never sees a
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> how closely does your doctor watch your BP?
> Bev
Mair - 05 Jun 2004 18:10 GMT
my bp is always normal, unless I am in a lot of pain, then it is only
slightly elevated. never have taken meds for it.
> I thought this was interesting. While I was in the ER the head honcho doctor
> said that he was surprised I wasn't on BP meds as he almost never sees a
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> how closely does your doctor watch your BP?
> Bev
V - 07 Jun 2004 04:28 GMT
> I thought this was interesting. While I was in the ER the head honcho doctor
> said that he was surprised I wasn't on BP meds as he almost never sees a
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> how closely does your doctor watch your BP?
> Bev
I actually have low blood pressure. I did have high when I had to wait for
neurologist. It was a four hour wait and he suggested blood pressure meds. I
told him I was pissed off at him, and that it was elevated because I was
stewing.
It does go up when I am in pain.
V