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The dreaded Hives?

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KCat - 29 May 2004 02:29 GMT
I dunno - I remember my sister breaking out in hives just before she was
diagnosed.  In fact, it was like the last straw before they took her to the
doctor to figure out what the heck was wrong.  The only time I've ever had
them was when I was a kid and had some sort of allergic reaction.

I've been having these itch fits on my feet for a while but today they
turned into little red bumps all over my feet and hands and they itched like
mad.  More so than ever.  They are larger than I thought "hives" were - not
like a bite from a mosquito but not tiny pinprick size either.  More like
pinhead size.  do hives vary that much?  I tried cortisone which didn't help
at all and went for benadryl.  which helped it seems.  I've had other
problems today but I'm sure they 're hormonal (hot flashes followed by cold
sweats) - OTOH, I've been aching a lot today and yesterday I was unable to
wake up until about 12:30 in the afternoon.  So I know those same hormones
can trigger these micro-flares.

Yesterday morning I woke up with these same itchy spots on my upper leg and
arms.  But they went away quickly.  These do not stay around like a bite but
fade pretty quickly unless I scratch too hard.  They seem to be triggered by
heat.

hmm... prickly heat?  or is prickly heat just hives due to heat? :P

<blithering>
KCat - 29 May 2004 02:35 GMT
nah... prickly heat it ain't.

looked up some images.  doesn't really look like hives either

oh well.. I'll chalk it up to what hubby would say my "strange body"
janers - 29 May 2004 03:24 GMT
Kcat

I really really think you need to have a complete blood panel and ANA as
well as all the other tests again, while this is going on.  I know you once
mentioned you were diagnosed with MCTD but not specifically lupus.

I am thinking you need to add the LUPUS to your list and ask the doc about
this.

there has to be a reason for the hives or spots or what ever you got.  I
know it is holiday time, but tiredness, fatigue, rashes and all might be a
true sign of things.  Call tues and get in there or at least tell them on
the  phone something is going on.

NOWWW on the serious side tee hee.  WHY don't you just admit to everyone
that you and "hubby" were playing in the Poison ivy patch and got carried
away.
tee hee

janers
KCat - 29 May 2004 21:07 GMT
> Kcat
>
> NOWWW on the serious side tee hee.  WHY don't you just admit to everyone
> that you and "hubby" were playing in the Poison ivy patch and got carried
> away.
> tee hee

Oww.. we did come back from a botany hike one day with chiggers... eeewww..
that was miserable.  But the treatment application was fun.

My hematologist appt. draws nearer. Next week.  so that's the best I can do
for now.  But I'll tell her about this and hubby is going with me for moral
(or immoral <G>) support.

This a.m. I was supposed to help outside and I got to the door, he looked at
me and said "Dog can come out but you can't!"  Apparently I was a little
green around the gills. :P  Better now though.  And I did get about 15 mins
out there with him to trim branches. Almost stuck my foot in a HUGE fire ant
bed!  That would have messed up any blood tests for sure!  You may not be
familiar with fire ants.  Let me put it this way - they deserve their name.
CP - 30 May 2004 14:48 GMT
Ah, I grew up in fire ant country in southern LA and MS.  Took me a few
years to learn to pay attention to where I put my foot!

>>Kcat
>>
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> bed!  That would have messed up any blood tests for sure!  You may not be
> familiar with fire ants.  Let me put it this way - they deserve their name.
Timothy Luders - 29 May 2004 05:38 GMT
> nah... prickly heat it ain't.
>
> looked up some images.  doesn't really look like hives either
>
> oh well.. I'll chalk it up to what hubby would say my "strange body"

That's what you get for raising Andy's. . .

Take pics in case they've gone away before you can get in to doc.

Timothy
Andy - 29 May 2004 11:25 GMT
>> nah... prickly heat it ain't.
>>
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>
>That's what you get for raising Andy's. . .

Actually, my body is quite reasonable for its age. My mind, however...
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KCat - 29 May 2004 21:08 GMT
> That's what you get for raising Andy's. . .

I.. I.. oh shoot.  no snappy retort here..

> Take pics in case they've gone away before you can get in to doc.

I didn't think of that. Thanks.  Will do.  Good thing hubby got me that
digitical camera for Christmas, eh?

(shuuurre.. that's what it's for)
V - 30 May 2004 02:20 GMT
> I dunno - I remember my sister breaking out in hives just before she was
> diagnosed.  In fact, it was like the last straw before they took her to the
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>
> <blithering>

I used to get hives all the time. I had a nurse on a message board once that
lupus does not itch. I told her I sure did!
I found that oatmeal baths, hot ones work, for me. Hot water is a natural
antihistimine. It is not good for your skin, but it eases the itch with the
oatmeal. I have used the clear calimine lotion. Had success with that as well.
Happy soaking!
V
Stephanie Townsend - 30 May 2004 02:33 GMT
I will join you all in the hive crowd. The first year my symptoms came on I
was always covered in them. I have a tendency to get hives when I am
nervous, happy, sad, angry... oh any emotion besides blah - and especially
when I don't feel well. I didn't know this could be a lupus thing. Hmmm....

> > I dunno - I remember my sister breaking out in hives just before she was
> > diagnosed.  In fact, it was like the last straw before they took her to the
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> Happy soaking!
> V
Grace Casselman - 31 May 2004 06:41 GMT
I'm not keeping up with all the discussions.... but for me, hives have been a
lot about reacting to medications...

G.

> I will join you all in the hive crowd. The first year my symptoms came on I
> was always covered in them. I have a tendency to get hives when I am
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> > Happy soaking!
> > V
hooi-bin - 30 May 2004 09:33 GMT
I get hives when it is about to rain!! and in malaysia it can get quite wet
on certain months!!!!!

P:S: but my hives are no longer that predictable now! my mom has hives
problem, i must have got it from her!!! yippee my mommy loves me more

Bin
KCat - 30 May 2004 18:37 GMT
> I get hives when it is about to rain!! and in malaysia it can get quite wet
> on certain months!!!!!
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>
> Bin

no rain here right now... though I'd sure love it.  We did have an excess
this winter and spring.  seems to be heat and activity trigger this for the
most.

i recall meeting someone who had lupus and when she drank her malar rash
became even more pronounced.  So increasing circulation seems to trigger
histamine release to some degree.  in some patients.  maybe? I'm guessin'.
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Lee Thompson-Herbert - 31 May 2004 09:55 GMT
>i recall meeting someone who had lupus and when she drank her malar rash
>became even more pronounced.  So increasing circulation seems to trigger
>histamine release to some degree.  in some patients.  maybe? I'm guessin'.

Happens to me sometimes, especially if I'm already starting to flare.
On the plane back from London, Jody noticed that my second glass of wine
made my malar rash show up bright red.  At which point, I laid off the
alcohol and just drank water the rest of the plane ride.  That was at the
end of a two-week tour, so I was probably already pushing my luck by then.
Since I drink so very rarely at this point because of all the meds I'm on,
I haven't had much to chance to check and see if it happens _every_ time I
drink.

One of my very first symptoms was the evil sunlight rash.  Though in later
years when I became much more ill, the rash could cover my whole body and
not just the area exposed to UV.  Right before I was offically diagnosed,
I had scalp-to-toe rash and absolutely nothing helped it, even the Atarax
they gave me (which is about twice as strong as Benadryl).  I began to
understand why hemocromatosis patients are driven insane from *itching*
after about a week of that.  

Hmm.  And I remember at least one of the times that I spontaneously broke
out with that stupid rash thinking that it was flea bites because I hadn't
been out in the sun.  And the fact that the lesions were fluid-filled and
oozed slightly when scratched.  That was just before all hell broke loose.

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Shelagh - 30 May 2004 17:52 GMT
I too will jump on the hive bandwagon... the first 'lupus rash' I
ever got was hives all over the front of my torso and up my neck
the size of silver dollars, some of them and others nickel sized.
Since then I get rashes in that same area when overheated,
flaring and feeling generally unwell... but haven't, oddly
enough, gotten specifically 'hives' ever again; the doctors have
always said I am unusual and a medical anomaly as I am still
'alive'! So I will take that and run with it lol!
I really do think that the hives are just another way for our
immune system to let us know it is in overdrive.... ie lupus!
.......... Shelagh fwiw.
> I dunno - I remember my sister breaking out in hives just before she was
> diagnosed.  In fact, it was like the last straw before they took her to the
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>
> <blithering>
herbwormwood - 09 Jun 2004 12:11 GMT
Hi,
I decided this summer I will get something powerful against the midge
bites.
I react  really badly and the itchy bumps drive me mad. I have got insect
repellant spray. Keilder is the worst but scotand is pretty bad too for
midges. I think mother's dog may have fleas too.
Can anyone recommend sonething I can get at the pharmacy to apply as soon
as I get bit because now we have the hot weather its only a matter of
time? Somethihg available in UK would be best!

> I too will jump on the hive bandwagon... the first 'lupus rash' I
> ever got was hives all over the front of my torso and up my neck
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>>
>> <blithering>

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Andy - 09 Jun 2004 14:54 GMT
>Hi,
>I decided this summer I will get something powerful against the midge
>bites.
>I react  really badly and the itchy bumps drive me mad. I have got insect
>repellant spray. Keilder is the worst but scotand is pretty bad too for
>midges. I think mother's dog may have fleas too.

Different problem - different treatment! There's a good range of animal
de-flea stuff in Sainsbury's

>Can anyone recommend sonething I can get at the pharmacy to apply as soon
>as I get bit because now we have the hot weather its only a matter of
>time? Somethihg available in UK would be best!

"After bite", which is a fat pen that you dab on to the bite. Active
ingredient is ammonia, ie an alkali.

There is also a product good for keeping the beasties away - it's one of
the Jungle range, but unfortunately they make two products and only one
works :)  Try the Gel first.
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herbwormwood - 11 Jun 2004 13:17 GMT
>> Hi,
>> I decided this summer I will get something powerful against the midge
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> Different problem - different treatment! There's a good range of animal
> de-flea stuff in Sainsbury's

Tee hee!

I meant when I see him scratching I seem to get an itchy patch soon after!
Couldnt his fleas attack me?

>> Can anyone recommend sonething I can get at the pharmacy to apply as soon
>> as I get bit because now we have the hot weather its only a matter of
>> time? Somethihg available in UK would be best!
>>
> "After bite", which is a fat pen that you dab on to the bite. Active
> ingredient is ammonia, ie an alkali.

OK I wil try that. What about antihistamimes?

> There is also a product good for keeping the beasties away - it's one of
> the Jungle range, but unfortunately they make two products and only one
> works :)  Try the Gel first.

I have the repellant but I still get bit.

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Andy - 11 Jun 2004 14:45 GMT
re dog

>I meant when I see him scratching I seem to get an itchy patch soon after!
>Couldnt his fleas attack me?

Probably, although I thought it was kat fleas - oops, I mean cat fleas -
that were the bad ones for humans.

>>> Can anyone recommend sonething I can get at the pharmacy to apply as soon
>>> as I get bit because now we have the hot weather its only a matter of
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>
>OK I wil try that. What about antihistamimes?

OK, though perhaps not at the same time. Advantage of the pen is that
there is no dose limit. Minor disadvantage is that if you apply too much
the excess can run off and stain clothing.

>> There is also a product good for keeping the beasties away - it's one of
>> the Jungle range, but unfortunately they make two products and only one
>> works :)  Try the Gel first.
>
>I have the repellant but I still get bit.

Try the other one? There should be a list of ingredients on the box:
check for any difference between the products.
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KCat - 11 Jun 2004 18:11 GMT
> OK I wil try that. What about antihistamimes?

I've taken Benadryl a couple of times recently to deal with - well, we still
don't know what it is... looks like bites, but no critters to be found that
are biting.  Within 20 minutes I get relief - but then I get verrry sleepy.

so I guess it's a matter of which you prefer.  As long as I'm not going
anywhere - it's benadryl.

I don't know about others but the "non-drowsy" anti-histamines like Claritin
do nothin' for me and give hubby a general "ick" feeling.
 
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