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J - 05 May 2004 12:40 GMT
My fridge is no longer leaking :-)
J
J - 05 May 2004 12:42 GMT
Gotta quit for now.
Hugs to all.
J
BJ - 05 May 2004 15:30 GMT
Cool J. Now you would be all set, if the stove would join in as well.
> My fridge is no longer leaking :-)
> J
RhondaM - 05 May 2004 22:12 GMT
I had that problem not too long ago it was a clogged filter. I am glad it
stopped

> My fridge is no longer leaking :-)
> J
Maggie - 06 May 2004 01:26 GMT
Glad to hear this J.  Did you fix it yourself?  Maggie has become quite
the plumber if anyone needs advice......2 words: plumber's tape.  
Grace Casselman - 06 May 2004 08:53 GMT
duct tape?  :)

> Glad to hear this J.  Did you fix it yourself?  Maggie has become quite
> the plumber if anyone needs advice......2 words: plumber's tape.
J - 06 May 2004 20:35 GMT
> Glad to hear this J.  Did you fix it yourself?  Maggie has become quite
> the plumber if anyone needs advice......2 words: plumber's tape.

answered elsewhere...
hehe duct tape. would not have worked in this circumstance, but I need to
buy more. handy stuff for many things.
Hugs Maggie.
J
Maggie - 06 May 2004 21:04 GMT
Hi J!

Actually, it's not duct tape.  Oh, duct tape though...that's another
chapter!  LOL!  It's plumbers tape.  It's white & about the size of a
roll of black electric tape.  It stretches & breaks off easily. It will
stick to itself even though it's not sticky in the least.  I had a leaky
pipe & I just used the tape along the threads & on the outside of the
joint & wah-la!  Okay, it wouldn't have worked with the fridge, but it's
going in the book, nonetheless. :-Þ  So glad you got it fixed, but I
know that sick feeling of knowing now what you could've done...had you
known then.  

Hugs,
Maggie
Andy - 06 May 2004 22:12 GMT
>Hi J!
>
>Actually, it's not duct tape.  Oh, duct tape though...that's another
>chapter!  LOL!  It's plumbers tape.  It's white & about the size of a
>roll of black electric tape.  It stretches & breaks off easily. It will
>stick to itself even though it's not sticky in the least.

It's PTFE alias Teflon tape. Excellent for threaded joints.
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Grace Casselman - 06 May 2004 22:28 GMT
Sounds handy!

> Hi J!
>
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> Hugs,
> Maggie
Timothy Luders - 06 May 2004 22:30 GMT
> Hi J!
>
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> Hugs,
> Maggie

That white tape is teflon thread tape. Use it on the pipe threads before
assembly. Plumbers tape is actually metal tape with holes in it used to
strap up pipes etc.

Timothy
J - 08 May 2004 08:45 GMT
> Hi J!
>
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> know that sick feeling of knowing now what you could've done...had you
> known then.

White, oh I know what you and Andy mean.."thread tape".
I don't have any but it wouldn't have helped me in this situation anyway.
I have used it before.
I did get out my black electrical tape. Maybe I should try to tape the 4
screws so I'll remember which next time.
Only trouble is 2 of them are in deep and need a special tool that goes deep
or I need to know what type of screw is in there and I forgot to ask him..

Oh another French person - wahla...gives me the chills.
Huggers Maggie
Love you
J
Cindy - 06 May 2004 13:55 GMT
Whoo Hoo...
Hugs Cindy
Stephanie Townsend - 06 May 2004 18:23 GMT
My fridge should meet your fridge and your fridge can show it how to stop
leaking. There is a pool on our floor every week and the apartment
maintenance people keep saying we fill our ice trays too much.  ???!!!?????

Steph

> Whoo Hoo...
> Hugs Cindy
J - 06 May 2004 20:08 GMT
> My fridge should meet your fridge and your fridge can show it how to stop
> leaking. There is a pool on our floor every week and the apartment
> maintenance people keep saying we fill our ice trays too much.  ???!!!?????
>
> Steph

I'm not sure that makes sense Steph, because water contracts when it freezes or
is he thinking you're leaving the empty trays there and overfilling them in the
freezer compartment?

Well, mine - the water was collecting under the veggie drawers at the bottom of
the lower compartment and then when that was overfull, was leaking out onto the
floor. (so the water was draining into the fridge instead of down the drain
tubing) inside the walls of the fridge/.
The problem was a blockage in drain tubing. Had to remove the light mechanism,
on the ceiling of the lower compartment to get at the drain hole. There are (I
swear) 18 screws and I did not know which ones to remove and if I'd removed
them all potentiallly couldn't have gotteni it back together the right way.
Only 4 needed to be removed, but the right ones.

Then stuff something flexible but not harmful as far as possible. That didn't
work.
So then the guy said "we have to blow water through the tubing" - used a garden
hose attached to the kitchen tap with a sprayer (for power) to spray down into
the hosing. First it sprayed water back out at us and all over the kitchen.
After 2 more tries, we could hear the water finally going down into the drip
pan, where it's supposed to.
Then he had me "blow" once more, while he got on his knees and verified that it
was flowing properly and into the pan.
So it was a 2-person job - cost me $70 Cdn. (and he said it was probably a
small piece of styrofoam, because we found another piece that was contributing
to the problem and it was styrofoam that the manufacturer should have removed
during assembly, but since it's more than the "one year warranty", I had to pay
for it.

Is your drip pan overflowing?
Is there a drain hole in the freezer compartment? Does it look blocked?
Is the drip pan under the bottom of the fridge or under the freezer
compartment?

The guy had told me to pull the plug, put the food somewhere cold, open the
doors and let it defrost for 4 hours. If you can locate the drain tubing,
blowdry it on "warm" as far along as you can, in case there's ice /garbage
blocking it.
When that didn't work, a friend said do the same but for 48 hours..
When that didn't work, I had to call a service man, tired of mopping...didn't
know which screws to remove and of course, nobody told me about the "garden
hose " trick.
J
Stephanie Townsend - 06 May 2004 21:29 GMT
This may sound like a silly question - but what is a drip pan? My problem
sounds the same as yours. The water is collecting in the veggie drawers and
below it in the bottom of the fridge and then it spills onto the floor. I
think I will call them back and tell them I have a blocked drain tubing -
the problem is the maintenance guy doesn't speak english very well. We shall
try again. Thanks for information!

> > My fridge should meet your fridge and your fridge can show it how to stop
> > leaking. There is a pool on our floor every week and the apartment
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> hose " trick.
> J
Timothy Luders - 06 May 2004 22:25 GMT
> This may sound like a silly question - but what is a drip pan? My problem
> sounds the same as yours. The water is collecting in the veggie drawers and
> below it in the bottom of the fridge and then it spills onto the floor. I
> think I will call them back and tell them I have a blocked drain tubing -
> the problem is the maintenance guy doesn't speak english very well. We shall
> try again. Thanks for information!

This sounds like you are on the right track. The drip pan collects the
melted "frost" where warm air from the condenser (that"s where the heat is
rejected to the room) blows over and evaporates it. Sometimes it is easier
to get to the tube at the drip pan end to blow it out. If done this way be
sure the fridge is empty. You don't want the clog to get spread over
everything.

Trying to make too much ice is not going to cause the "leak". More moisture
enters the fridge from the contents and door opening than from the surface
of the ice trays. Don't let the maintenance guy tell you otherwise.

Good luck, Timothy
J - 06 May 2004 22:32 GMT
> This may sound like a silly question - but what is a drip pan? My problem
> sounds the same as yours. The water is collecting in the veggie drawers and
> below it in the bottom of the fridge and then it spills onto the floor. I
> think I will call them back and tell them I have a blocked drain tubing -
> the problem is the maintenance guy doesn't speak english very well. We shall
> try again. Thanks for information!

Well, on the old kind of fridges that were not self-defrost, there was usually a
slideout  pan just below the upper freezer section, so when we manually defrost
the fridge, or spills occur, the water or muck goes through a hole in the
"floor" of the freezer section into the pan. Then we slide it out and empty it.
If you have this type and the pan is full then it can overflow into the lower
section.

Mine's a frost free and when it defrosts, the water goes somehwere along the
back of the freezer section down via a tube in the walls of the fridge into a
collecting pan under the bottom of the fridge. There's a small panel which pops
off to access the pan on the front lower section of the fridge. Same panel hides
the legs of the fridge.
Usually the water that collects the pan evaporates into the air. Some fridges
are made that a person is supposed to slide out the pan and empty it. Models
vary. It doesn't sound like that's your problem because watch can't run upswards
from a pan down below into your fridge unless the tubing is blocked and new
water can't go down the tube into the pan.

Sounds like he's not understanding and/or he's got the "blame the tenant"
attitude and sometimes it is the tenant's fault (or doesn't know how to do
maintenance on their fridge) and assumes they should. So I don't know the
solution, unless I was to poke around (look at the fridge and see what's where).

Hope you get it figured out. It sure was a nuisance getting up in the night to
go the bathroom and walking through a flood on the floor :-)
J
RhondaM - 07 May 2004 01:42 GMT
There is a filter in the inside top back of a ref that gets clogged with
stuff when the freezer goes through a defrost cycle. It needs to be pulled
out and washed. It is small about the size of a pcv valve on a car. Wala you
clean it the water will stop flooding the bottom of your ref.
I know this cause my dad owns a commercial ref co.( Not bragging)
RhondaM

> This may sound like a silly question - but what is a drip pan? My problem
> sounds the same as yours. The water is collecting in the veggie drawers and
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> > hose " trick.
> > J
J - 08 May 2004 08:27 GMT
>  Wala

oh lala...I love it when you speak a foreign language.
J
Andy - 06 May 2004 20:56 GMT
>My fridge should meet your fridge and your fridge can show it how to stop
>leaking. There is a pool on our floor every week and the apartment
>maintenance people keep saying we fill our ice trays too much.  ???!!!?????

Assuming the pool is water.. is it a "self-defrosting" fridge? In some
of these the water comes out of a pipe on to the top of the compressor
assembly, so that it can evaporate away. If this gets blocked, or the
top has a gap in its rim, the water falls on the floor.

If it isn't that, try not filling the ice tray for a few days and see if
that makes any difference.

Does it have a water-cooler with a permanent water supply? That has many
places to leak from!
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J - 06 May 2004 22:31 GMT
> Assuming the pool is water.. is it a "self-defrosting" fridge? In some
> of these the water comes out of a pipe on to the top of the compressor
> assembly, so that it can evaporate away. If this gets blocked, or the
> top has a gap in its rim, the water falls on the floor.

is that (compressor) on the back of the fridge or underneath the back of the
fridge ?
I used to pull out those fridges and vacuum them out and clear out junk from
there.

> If it isn't that, try not filling the ice tray for a few days and see if
> that makes any difference.

Good idea, then she tell the maintenance man she's not using ice trays so there
goes his excuse.

> Does it have a water-cooler with a permanent water supply? That has many
> places to leak from!

I don't know "fancy" types. so no comment.
J
Andy - 07 May 2004 09:48 GMT
In article <409AAEC6.FF3F9723@execulink.com>, J <ugh@example.net> wrote

>> Assuming the pool is water.. is it a "self-defrosting" fridge? In some
>> of these the water comes out of a pipe on to the top of the compressor
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>is that (compressor) on the back of the fridge or underneath the back of the
>fridge ?

All the ones I have seen are underneath the back.
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Stephanie Townsend - 07 May 2004 16:43 GMT
I think it is a self defrosting fridge. The leaking started when my husband
and I went away for a week and when we came home our fridge door was open a
little. We aren't sure how long it was open because we had a someone looking
in on our place while we were gone. The fridge went on overdrive trying to
keep the food cool and the freezer went on overdrive as well and filled with
ice crystals. We thawled that out and the fridge works okay except for the
leaking. But I will try everyones suggestions. I don't know if we have a
permanent water supply - how would i figure that out? (sorry if that is a
silly question, i am clueless - i smart when it comes to psychology and
books, but refrigerators - not so much)

I too love how this group gets off on these topics! So much help in all
aspects of life. You guys rock!

Steph

> >My fridge should meet your fridge and your fridge can show it how to stop
> >leaking. There is a pool on our floor every week and the apartment
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> Does it have a water-cooler with a permanent water supply? That has many
> places to leak from!
Andy - 07 May 2004 16:54 GMT
[
> I don't know if we have a
>permanent water supply - how would i figure that out?

If the fridge has a tap from which you get unlimited chilled water, then
it must have a pipe leading in from the house's water supply. This will
come out the back and go into the wall, similarly to the electricity
connection.
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