Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Lupus / April 2004
Anyone tried handheld steam cleaner?
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kcat - 15 Apr 2004 02:01 GMT I desperately need to get rid of some of the mold and dust building up around here. It's SE Texas so you can never get completely rid of the stuff. But it's bad and yet there seems to be no easy way short of chemicals and large spray bottles. The blinds are old and taking them down to hose down would result in not being able to put them back up again. And more stirring up of the dust and mold.
We were thinking of buying or renting one of those steam cleaners that are sometimes seen on infomercials or HSN. But do they really work? And do I just lay down towels at the base of the windows as I steam?
chemicals don't appeal to me (though we may need *something* to deter further growth)
Our bathroom windows do not open and "sweat" a great deal in the winter so even if I were a good housewife this would be an issue - just not quite such a *big* nasty, issue.
kcat - going back to bed...
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Beverley - 15 Apr 2004 03:50 GMT I've used the steam cleaners that you use on the rug that also have hand attachments for things like the sofa. I think Amway makes the best cleaner for that stuff - other stuff just seems to attract the dirt later - must leave some sort of residue. I know one thing: they wore my *ss out using them. Better have a strong body to do the job right if you are using something like the Rug Doctor (brand) steamer.
If you ever figure out how to clean blinds an easy way will you let me know? I hate cleaning them. Putting up new ones is easier than cleaning old ones unless you have some odd window that requires custom blinds instead of the cheap ones at the sprawl-marts. Think shades - they are easier! Bev
> I desperately need to get rid of some of the mold and dust building up > around here. It's SE Texas so you can never get completely rid of the [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' ,' > (()),-'' (()),' (((.-' Maggie - 15 Apr 2004 06:43 GMT Don't have one, but I know what you're talking about. From what I know though, you would still be required to wipe the blinds off--at least somewhat. The steam will basically lift the dirt & unless you stand there all day waiting for the moisture to build up enough to dribble over (with the now, wet dust), I would think it would be a major pain.
The steamers seem to be good with the heavy duty & hard-to-reach jobs. Grills, old pans with baked on ick, corners & edges, stuff like that.
Where's Mair? She had mentioned getting one awhile back. She had some fun with her pans, if I recall. Ship your blinds to Mair. : )
Maggie
kcat - 15 Apr 2004 17:40 GMT >something like the Rug Doctor (brand) steamer. I made myself extremely ill for several days using one of these. I tried to do the whole house in less than 2 days and i think the chemicals were very hard on me.
>If you ever figure out how to clean blinds an easy way will you let me know? in my old house, we took them down and hosed them down and used a soft but large brush with soapy water.
>unless you have some odd window that requires custom blinds instead of the yup - the window required custom blinds. all of the windows did. In fact, we customized them - carefully snipping about 1.5 inches on both sides of already custom-ordered blinds from JCP.
>cheap ones at the sprawl-marts. Think shades - they are easier! >Bev Even without the blinds though I'm still dealing with mold and mildew on the window itself and deep in the crevices. need something that will force it's way in there but not get to me chemically. *********************************** KCat - I am not a medical professional. The contents of this post are based soley on my experiences and opinions http://www.ghg.net/schwerpt/kcspages/ http://www.ghg.net/schwerpt/ASLFAQ/
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J - 15 Apr 2004 21:03 GMT > Even without the blinds though I'm still dealing with mold and mildew > on the window itself and deep in the crevices. need something that > will force it's way in there but not get to me chemically. I would (and have) used a various brushes (with or without handle) there's different widths and sizes (and softness or rigidity) at hardware or home improvement store. and windows open and a mask. then rinse good.
I did 2 windows a month ago, the 2nd I did better than the first, so I'll have to redo the first, there's more mould on it. The paint on the sill etc withstood my "multiple brush" technique :-)
Too much humidity in your place? dehumidifier? I know why mine happened, I felt dry all the time during the coldest weather, so I was cooking water, on the stove on low to create steam. That'll be the last time I do that !
J - waiting for open window weather.
Andy - 15 Apr 2004 21:42 GMT [
>Too much humidity in your place? It's Texas. 99% is not unknown :(
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kcat - 15 Apr 2004 22:28 GMT >> Even without the blinds though I'm still dealing with mold and mildew >> on the window itself and deep in the crevices. need something that >> will force it's way in there but not get to me chemically. > >I would (and have) used a various brushes (with or without handle) there's different widths and sizes (and softness >or rigidity) at hardware or home improvement store. and windows open and a mask. then rinse good. well, as I said, the windows don't open. Everytime i read a bathroom cleaning product that says "use only in well-ventilated area" I have to laugh in a mixture of amusement and disgust.
>Too much humidity in your place? dehumidifier? well - a bathroom where two people shower daily (and one likes to fog the mirrors excessively - not me!) and has no windows that open is going to be a devil to dehumidify. Add the factor that this is practically the Mold Heaven on the Gulf Coast and I think that a dehumidifier is a losing battle. My mom had one in my GMs bedroom for some time because that particular room was a sponge. I admit to not wanting to dump gallons of water every day.
>J - waiting for open window weather. we just had ours - it's over now. back to 80+ degrees and 80+ humidity.
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J - 16 Apr 2004 20:35 GMT > well, as I said, the windows don't open. Sorry KC, I missed that Unless someone's willing to take the window(s) apart for cleaning, I guess you're stuck with Shelagh's spraying solution.
Is there a bathroom vent? (vented to the outdoors?) Some are simple "out the wall" types. There's a "mother of one" shown here that goes out the ceiling, then outdoors. http://pages.quicksilver.net.nz/geoffm/fan_FAQ.htm
J
JB - 25 Apr 2004 05:41 GMT Vinegar (straight or cut down with water) kills fungus and mold, as well as removing scale in the bathroom, on faucets, and in filters. Squeegies work great in the bathtub, too. Blinds are hard to clean, no matter what, it seems to me, but a solution of vinegar water, wrung out from a cloth or sponge will do the job as good, if not better than stronger chemicals, and will deter mold, though not dust. I'd still prefer new blinds, myself, if I could afford them, but vinegar will just have to do, for me. JB
> I've used the steam cleaners that you use on the rug that also have hand > attachments for things like the sofa. I think Amway makes the best cleaner [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > > _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' ,' > > (()),-'' (()),' (((.-' Andy - 25 Apr 2004 10:17 GMT In article <108mgotfjfo8u66@corp.supernews.com>, JB <apreis@pokynet.com> wrote
>Vinegar (straight or cut down with water) If anyone finds they have some left-over white wine which has "gone off", that basically *is* vinegar and is good for cleaning!
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Bruce On. - 15 Apr 2004 13:26 GMT > We were thinking of buying or renting one of those steam cleaners that > are sometimes seen on infomercials or HSN. But do they really work? [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > *********************************** Hi Kcat:))) My two cents as Bev would say of me:)))
Please if you can hire a person that does this type of work . I use a hand held steamer in our apt building , it is work!! Mould as you know is alive and you must dress and mask for the dangers. Short and sweet eh! Bruce On. " oh ya , in the watercloset aka john , can you put in a vent fan? "
Andy - 15 Apr 2004 14:34 GMT >I desperately need to get rid of some of the mold and dust building up >around here. It's SE Texas so you can never get completely rid of the [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >are sometimes seen on infomercials or HSN. But do they really work? >And do I just lay down towels at the base of the windows as I steam? As I understand it, "mold" is a living entity, and thrives in certain humidities. I'd fear that steam cleaning might just spread mold spores around *and* provide them with water to grow in.
If you *do* do as you plan, I'd use old towels and throw them out afterwards.
>chemicals don't appeal to me (though we may need *something* to deter >further growth) We get a red mold free with our cold water supply, which sometimes turns black as it grows (in places such as the corner of the tiling round the bath). I use "Hagesan HG Mold Spray" - that soon shifts it ... as indeed it should since it contains 5% sodium hypochlorite plus some sodium hydroxide. Definitely a safety goggles and rubber gloves substance!
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RhondaM - 15 Apr 2004 20:16 GMT my sister is sensitive to chem..so she uses downy fabric softener to clean her carpets and furniture. You can put it in your steam cleaner or the rented ones too.. I have tried it and it works just be sure to dilute it or it will leave a sticky residue
> >I desperately need to get rid of some of the mold and dust building up > >around here. It's SE Texas so you can never get completely rid of the [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > it should since it contains 5% sodium hypochlorite plus some sodium > hydroxide. Definitely a safety goggles and rubber gloves substance! Mair - 16 Apr 2004 04:07 GMT Hi kittycat! Here I am!
I have a small hand-held steamer that uses 9oz of *plain water only.* I saw it on a TV infomercial. It is made by Scunci. try Scunci.com or scuncisteamer.com and see if something comes up. I am one tired lady right now, but did want to get back to you.
I have not even explored all the options that this steamer has... such as upholstery and window cleaning. But it is a sure bet for mole or dirt down in deep cracks where nothing else can reach. It can steam your clothes, take wax off of anything, and I even used it as a vaporizer to "fog" my bathroom last winter when I had bronchitis. (warning: do not point the steam jet at your face ;-)
the miniblinds still remain problematic for me. What am I gonna do, have the steam dribble all over the floor? My place has tons of miniblinds and my blinds have three years or more worth of dirt caked onto them. They need to come down, and then I could wash them either in the tub with the steamer, or outside with a spray on the hose. I am not sure that the steamer is the answer for keeping them clean, though. they make these little 'swiffer" things or some other name brand that is just the right size to fit between the miniblinds. I might try that if there are no chemicals involved.
I am sensitive to so many chemicals, many of them cleaning products, so my aim was to use the steamer instead. My arms were almost too weak to use it when I got it, though. Now I have had some physical therapy so maybe I could do better. But reaching up to take those blinds down... everytime I think of it, I just say to myself "next week, maybe"!
Anyway, I think the little steamer is worth it... they charge too much for shipping and handling, though. the price is still worth it, considering that it is a pretty sturdy little contraption.
good luck with the mold
Mair
> I desperately need to get rid of some of the mold and dust building up > around here. It's SE Texas so you can never get completely rid of the [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' ,' > (()),-'' (()),' (((.-' Shelagh - 16 Apr 2004 18:49 GMT "kcat" wrote in message <snip>
> I desperately need to get rid of some of the mold and dust building up > around here. It's SE Texas so you can never get completely rid of the > stuff. But it's bad and yet there seems to be no easy way short of > chemicals and large spray bottles. The blinds are old and taking them > down to hose down would result in not being able to put them back up > again. And more stirring up of the dust and mold. </snip> KC, what I have used for 'mold' (the people we bought our condo from years ago never opened their closed in deck windows and there was black on the ceilings and window frames and walls *so so YUCKY*!!) is a spray bottle, (empty of old contents and rinsed out), filled with 3/4 H2O and 1/4 bleach (liquid) and spray all areas lightly... it kills what is there (it just fell off the ceiling like some dead alien whatever (yuck again!) and ran down the walls and windows) and it also deters anymore from growing... just place paper towelling below the area and mop the excess if any with pt too; wear an apron so you don't get any back splashed' bleach on your clothes.... it is so dilute it doesn't really affect them anyhow (I found out the hard way).... but it really does work and it isn't a harsh chemical in that dilution for sensitive people... I can't use other chemicals but bleach I use in laundry for towels/bedding etc. and it doesn't bother me to spray it in that way. HTH....good luck and hugs from Shelagh
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