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Rib pain.  What is it?

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RJ - 27 Mar 2004 02:37 GMT
Sorry that I have not replied but I am relying on google for this news
group and missed much of the replies you all were so kind to post.  I
also think that it might be intestinal in nature.  I am so doctor shy
after the fourth one said that I should see a shrink.  All of the
tests are normal so I must be nuts.  I will admit that I have not done
any extensive testing for IBS and the like.  I don't know weather to
get a new doc or go back to the one that almost killed me with Ultram.
Any advice?  Where is Maggie?
J - 27 Mar 2004 03:21 GMT
> Sorry that I have not replied but I am relying on google for this news
> group and missed much of the replies you all were so kind to post.  I
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> get a new doc or go back to the one that almost killed me with Ultram.
>  Any advice?  Where is Maggie?

Hi RJ,
Maggie hasn't been around for a while.
I think she suggested trying an anti-inflammatory
The replies to your original post are here http://tinyurl.com/29o3o

There's so much on the left side, stomach, bowel, spleen sometimes
enlarges after eating large meals, lung, ribs, liver.
Perhaps a gastroenterologist, if you feel it's not costochondritis (or
GERD or gastritis)
www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/000164.
http://pbcers.org/livdis8.htm

I'm sorry, I don't know how to help. I see that you've posted to numerous
newsgroups about it.
Perhaps if you post to sci.med with a brief history (age, gender,
diagnosis, what's been ruled out, other signs and symptoms), medications
etc. Someone there might have something enlightening.
J
Richard A. - 27 Mar 2004 12:49 GMT
About 15 years ago I was troubled with a persistant pain on my front
lower left side of my rib cage. It seemed to be focused on the last
rib which is often reffered to as a 'floating rib' because it doesn't
fully attach to the back vertbrae like the other ribs. At the time I
was seeing a massage therapist who had graduated from the Edgar Cayce
Massage school and he suggested that he try and 'roll' the rib back
into posistion, it seemed to have floated out of posistion and was
possibly impinging on an internal organ, maybe the kidney.
Laying on the massage table on my stomach, the MT used his full
forearm and slowly and firmly glided the presuure from head to toe
dierction acroos my back towards my waist. It was painful for me, no
doubt about that. He did this a number of times and it seemed to ease
up but it was a little exhausting and traumatic. The next morning when
I work up I had dripped bright several drops of red blood from my
penis, something I had never done before or since. The rib pain was
gone and never returned.
I was totally impressed with the ability of massage therapy to treat
many many sore and painful spots all over my body. I started seeing
several different therapist and experienced many techniques. I found
the heavy pressure was not only the most painful but also the most
therapeutic. I spent a good sum of money on massage and decided to go
to school to learn it and maybe trade with others and reduce my
expense. I graduated and certified in 1992 as a CMT and have used it
some but don't practive often.
The most impressive thing is that 12 years after enduring all that
agony and excassy (sp), the root of the pain is gone and so are the
individual painful spots.
Good luck on solving your rib pain.
Regards,
Richard
misc - 08 Apr 2004 00:27 GMT
I get this rib pain too!!  Mine is also on the left rib, but tends to
concentrate around the back more often than the front.   It really stabs
with the intake of a deep breath.  I also get the pleuritic pains and other
various pains around my ribs.  When the pains were really bad (front and
centre) I felt like I was going to have a heart attack or something.  At
this time I had all sorts of scans but nothing showed up.
This group has been really good for me - I was just starting to think I had
developed a really serious case of hypochondria.
Thank you all.
Winny

> Sorry that I have not replied but I am relying on google for this news
> group and missed much of the replies you all were so kind to post.  I
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> get a new doc or go back to the one that almost killed me with Ultram.
>  Any advice?  Where is Maggie?
Kristin - 08 Apr 2004 02:23 GMT
Hi there Winny,
Not hypochondria-  I think we all believe we suffer from that from time
to time, though.  I sure do WISH it were!  
I get rib pain, too.  I think I've forgotten how to take deep breaths,
it's been so long since I've been able to breathe like a normal person
in SO long...  
I'm glad your scans turned out normal, although be aware some things
don't turn up on some scans...  ;)
Take care,
Kristin

> I get this rib pain too!!  Mine is also on the left rib, but tends to
> concentrate around the back more often than the front.   It really
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>> with Ultram.
>>  Any advice?  Where is Maggie?
JDWAT@webtv.net - 08 Apr 2004 07:35 GMT
Oh Winny,

I know that feeling.  Both of them.  Hypochondria *&* rib pain.  I don't
know if you saw the thread RJ started the first time, but I learned that
it could be pleurisy or costal chondritis for me.  Pleurisy is what the
doctor called it, but who knows. I just know that when it occurs, I want
relief already.  It's a bad pain to have, I know.  What other meds are
you on, if you don't mind my asking?

I wonder where you got this post from?  I didn't see it as I was
catching up.  Thanks for replying to it!  I wondered where RJ ran off
to.

Hugs,
Maggie
misc - 08 Apr 2004 14:25 GMT
( Which post?  )

Anyway, for me, this pain is different from the pleuritic pain (when it
really hurts to lean forward, or lay down etc) and also from the pain of
costochondritis (which i think was focused down my sternum).  But, yeah, it
hurts.

Full list of meds?  Cyclosporin, mycophenolate, prednisolone, warrfarin,
atenolol, enalapril,  as well as cephalexin for chronic UTI's, calcium,
magnesium and sodi-bicarb.

Re:  the hypochondria - sometimes get a good day and then I know that I
wasn't faking it ;-)

Winny
x

> Oh Winny,
>
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> Hugs,
> Maggie
JDWAT@webtv.net - 08 Apr 2004 19:58 GMT
Hi Winny!

It was the first post that you responded to.  It was from RJ.  S/he had
started the thread awhile back & was looking for me & I didn't see it
when I was going through posts, trying to catch up.  Strange how things
happen. : )  

We also discovered that you can have arthritis in your ribs.  Your ribs
have a lining, as well as synovial fluid.  It still seems a bit weird to
be, but so does the rest of this illness. : )  Whenever someone says
that it hurts to take a deep breath, I always think; pleurisy, but it
can be things we may not even know exist.

You never miss taking a deep breath, until you can't.  You don't even
pay it much mind, unless your asthmatic.  But when you can't, you'd do
anything for one good, deep breath.  

Thanks for sharing & I'm glad you decided to come out of lurk-mode &
join us. : )

Hugs4u,
Maggie
RJ - 23 Apr 2004 02:44 GMT
It doesn't hurt to breath just touch.  I was just playing lacrosse
with my kid and oops a 60 mph ball into the ribs.  Now I'm really in
pain.  Oh well.  I guess it's back to the docs.
 
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