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Urinalysis on all patients?

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farusadin - 11 Feb 2009 04:20 GMT
Does anyone else have this practice at their hospital? Is there a
reason for that? It seems odd if not ordered by the physician.
Manky Badger - 11 Feb 2009 19:30 GMT
> Does anyone else have this practice at their hospital? Is there a
> reason for that? It seems odd if not ordered by the physician.

What do you mean by "urinalysis" ?  Dip-stick positive & negative
biochemical testing? Microbiological cultures?
John Gentile - 12 Feb 2009 01:12 GMT
>> Does anyone else have this practice at their hospital? Is there a
>> reason for that? It seems odd if not ordered by the physician.
>
> What do you mean by "urinalysis" ?  Dip-stick positive & negative
> biochemical testing? Microbiological cultures?

And what do you mean by "not ordered by the physician"? If you are in
the US you might be in trouble with all kinds of guidlines concerning
ordering practices and reimbursement. Medicare and almost any other
payer will not pay for improperly ordered tests, or tests that have
nothing to do with the patient's condition.

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John Gentile MS, M(ASCP)
Laboratory Information Mgr.
VA Medical Center
Providence, RI
yjgent@cox.net

JEDilworth - 14 Feb 2009 06:47 GMT
Back in 70's, otherwise known as the olden days (before DRG's
[Diagnostic Related Groups] and Compliance issues in medical lab
billing), standard admission work at our hospital was a CBC, urinalysis,
and RPR (serology for syphilis) on all adult admissions, plus whatever
the individual doctor ordered in addition. I'm not sure whether the
doctors just automatically ordered this or it was included in your
admission workups. I remember that we had at least 50-60 RPR's a day,
and usually at least one positive on a daily basis. Ours was a 350 bed
hospital then and it was pretty busy.

After the change to DRG billing in 1984, the hospital's census slowly
went down. It closed in 1996 when the census hovered between 70-80
patients, and pretty much every one we did have was Medicare or
Medicaid.

Nowadays, every test ordered must be by the physician in the U.S. and
cannot be a standard order set up by the admitting hospital.

Judy Dilworth, M.T. (ASCP)
Microbiology
 
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