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Requirements to become an MLT or MT in Caliornia?

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DarkProtoman - 22 Jun 2007 03:53 GMT
Hi! I'm 16. This Saturday, I'll be taking CA's CHSPE --California High
School Proficency Exam; not to be confused with the California High
School Exit Exam--; if I pass, I can skip my junior and senior year
and go directly to community college. What are the requirements for
becoming an MLT --Medical Laboratory Technician--, and then an MT --
Medical Technologist--? Since MLTs and MTs are essentially the
laboratory equivalents of LVNs --Licensed Vocational Nurses-- and RNs
--Registered Nurses--, do they have licensing exams --I bet they do--?
In keeping w/ the nursing parallel, is there a laboratory equivalent
of an NP --Nurse Practictioner--?

Thanks!!!!
JEDilworth - 22 Jun 2007 05:53 GMT
http://www.ascp.org/certification/CertifyingExaminations/

http://www.ascp.org/Certification/CertifyingExaminations/cert_procedures/default.aspx
(more CA info at the bottom of this page)

http://www.ascp.org/Careerlinks/LabCareers/default.aspx - check out this
page also.

http://www.ascp.org/Certification/pdf/booklet.pdf - requirements are in
this .pdf file

There is California information on the first two pages above. I know it
has changed in CA recently, as we just lost one of our new grads to the
San Diego area. She was fully trained in micro and <1 year out of
training. She left in May with THREE job offers, as the ASCP registry
examination now fulfills CA requirements, I've been told. It was
definitely our loss, as she was very sharp.

You will earn far more money as an M.T. (ASCP) than an M.L.T. over the
course of your career.  If you're smart enough to skip two years of
school, go for the baccalaureate degree. If you ever want to move up
into management (senior tech, team leader and above) in the future you
will be probably be passed over without at least an M.T. registration.
ASCP is the most prominent of the registrations for laboratory workers.
There are others (NCS and AMT I think). Licensing is a different issue
and that is state dependent. Testing is divided into different levels.
Highly complex testing is usually reserved for M.T.'s only in many
hospitals, so you will be limiting yourself in flexibility if you go the
MLT route.

I know that there are MLT's out there reading this and will beg to
differ with me, depending on the lab you're working in. For someone
starting out, with no family restrictions to education, I still think
M.T. is the way to go. Remember that most of the boomers will be
retiring in the next ten to fifteen years. This will leave LOTS of
openings, especially in management or senior tech positions. The more
education you have, the more likely you will be able to move into those
positions by having M.T. certification. Read that as more money and
possibly better hours available to you.

As far as an equivalent to a NP, I would have to say no, there is
nothing equivalent because we do not perform direct patient care per se.
Most laboratories have either a Chief Technologist or, if they're
larger, they have Managers over departments. I work for a large lab that
does the work for four hospitals. We have three managers that answer to
one Manager who is over all three hospitals. Each of the other hospitals
has one manager that answer to him, with team leaders underneath. ALL of
these people are M.T.'s.

All of the positions for which a registry exam is available are listed
on the site above. Starting with 2004 grads, I believe there is a
continuing education requirement that MUST be fulfilled in order to keep
your registration current. We old people have been grandfathered in. If
you specialize in one area you must include CE in other areas also. This
all must be documented and sent in to ASCP.

Hope this helps. I know others out there on this group can also comment.

Judy Dilworth, M.T. (ASCP)
Microbiology 30+ years

> Hi! I'm 16. This Saturday, I'll be taking CA's CHSPE --California High
> School Proficency Exam; not to be confused with the California High
> School Exit Exam--; if I pass, I can skip my junior and senior year
> and go directly to community college. What are the requirements for
> becoming an MLT --Medical Laboratory Technician--, and then an MT --
> Medical Technologist--?
DarkProtoman - 22 Jun 2007 18:27 GMT
On Jun 21, 9:53 pm, "JEDilworth" <bactit...@nospamhortonsbay.com>
wrote:
> http://www.ascp.org/certification/CertifyingExaminations/
>
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>
> - Show quoted text -

Yeah, but I actually want to go on to med school and get my MD/PhD
degrees; the MLT qualification is really to support myself while
getting my bachelor's. Do you think being an MLT would look good on my
med school app? Is there anyway I could take the MT cert course part-
time?
JEDilworth - 22 Jun 2007 18:40 GMT
The courses required to get into medical school will be the same ones
that are required to get M.T. certification.

It really depends on time and money. A higher degree ALWAYS looks
better. Then again, you may want to be quiet about becoming an M.D. if
you go into M.T. training. Schools put a lot of time into training
someone who they hope will stay in the field, as there are huge
shortages looming. If you say you will be leaving upon the end of
training, you might not even get into the training program.

We try to keep our students if at all possible. We lost one to podiatry
school a year after he was finished. We lost another to a commercial
company that supplies some of our equipment. We lost the third to sunny
California. If I were the head of an M.T. school I would probably look
for someone who planned on staying in the field, although nothing is for
sure.

The University of Cincinnati offers an online course for medical
technologists. I don't know anything about it. At some point you will
have to go into the lab.

http://clsonline.uc.edu/lp/default.php?src=I_CLSADVBANNER

Judy Dilworth, M.T. (ASCP)
Microbiology

"DarkProtoman" <Protoman2050@gmail.com> wrote in message

> Yeah, but I actually want to go on to med school and get my MD/PhD
> degrees; the MLT qualification is really to support myself while
> getting my bachelor's. Do you think being an MLT would look good on my
> med school app? Is there anyway I could take the MT cert course part-
> time?
DarkProtoman - 22 Jun 2007 22:09 GMT
On Jun 22, 10:40 am, "JEDilworth" <bactit...@nospamhortonsbay.com>
wrote:
> The courses required to get into medical school will be the same ones
> that are required to get M.T. certification.
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>
> - Show quoted text -

Actually, I realized I really want to be a histotechnician. Do you
know of any histotechnician certification courses, or are they mostly
self-study? How do they pay compared to being a MLT?
John Gentile - 23 Jun 2007 02:45 GMT
>> "DarkProtoman" <Protoman2...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> Yeah, but I actually want to go on to med school and get my MD/PhD
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> know of any histotechnician certification courses, or are they mostly
> self-study? How do they pay compared to being a MLT?

Medical labs are run by pathologists - in our labs our manager reports
to the chief pathologist. I think MT training is an excellent basis for
medical school no matter what field you end up going into.

Histotechnicians are equvilent in pay to MLTs (at least in our lab),
and we are having a hard time trying to recruit one. We have also
advertised for a pathologist assistant which is something like a
phycian assistant but for pathology.

You do have some time to look at all your possibilities. There are many
fields in the lab that you can specialize in so take the time and
investigate. Visit a lab and talk to the people doing the job. Good
luck!
Signature

John Gentile MS, M(ASCP)
Laboratory Information Mgr.
VA Medical Center
Providence, RI
yjgent@cox.net

JEDilworth - 23 Jun 2007 05:20 GMT
There is information on Histology technician requirements on the last
URL in the first notice I sent.

http://www.ascp.org/Certification/pdf/booklet.pdf - there is a
difference between H.T. (ASCP) and HTL (ASCP).

You would have to be certified as H.T. (ASCP) and take a registry
examination to become a technician. HTL requires a baccalaureate degress
(see requirements in booklet above).

There's quite a bit of difference between H.T.'s and M.L.T's. H.T.'s and
HTL's are in big demand all over the country right now. The downsides
are that you usually have to start work around 4:30 a.m. (no you didn't
read that wrong). They cut the tissue blocks so that they're ready for
the pathologists when they come in. Upside is that you will be done
around 1 p.m. Downside is that you have to go to bed pretty early to
keep these hours. We do have H.T.'s that work later than that in our
rather large lab, though. In Histology you will be dealing with actual
tissues and fluids. In the Lab you deal with those same fluids, but
mostly blood and urine specimens (unless you go into micro, where we get
every kind of specimen you can imagine).

Other downside in histo is exposure to xylene and formalin. These can be
carcinogens. There are very strict rules about these two substances
nowadays. In the olden days of the 60's and early 70's, however, there
were not. I used to have to go into Histology every once in awhile and
would practically pass out with the smell in there. The labs are
required to monitor exposures, I believe, and provide ventilation fans
nowadays.

Sounds like you have a lot of thinking to do before you make a decision.
Good luck.

Judy Dilworth, M.T. (ASCP)
Microbiology

> Actually, I realized I really want to be a histotechnician. Do you
> know of any histotechnician certification courses, or are they mostly
> self-study? How do they pay compared to being a MLT?
DarkProtoman - 25 Jun 2007 01:07 GMT
> There is information on Histology technician requirements on the last
> URL in the first notice I sent.
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>
> - Show quoted text -

Probably histo. I want experience w/ actual specimens. How's the pay
for a HT compared to an MLT?
JEDilworth - 25 Jun 2007 05:01 GMT
http://swz.salary.com/salarywizard/layoutscripts/swzl_newbrowseexp.asp

Go here and put in your zip code. Many healthcare technical jobs will
come up. I only searched for Histology technician but it's there. When
you go to the M's search for Medical Technician to get MLT wages.

Have fun.

Judy Dilworth, M.T. (ASCP)
Microbiology

> Probably histo. I want experience w/ actual specimens. How's the pay
> for a HT compared to an MLT?
 
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