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Monitoring falsly elevated MCV

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reallybigmidget2 - 19 Nov 2005 08:37 GMT
I am a medial technologist working at a large inter city hospital in
the Core Lab.  In Hematology, we are currently checking every MCV >105
by making a 1:3 dilution and then running again through our Hematology
analyzer to verify that it is not caused from rouleaux.  We are also
maintaining a card file of all our patients with MCVs >105 excepting
certain patients with explained increased MCVs.

I just downloaded and read the 2005 CAP requirement (HEM.30200-Phase I
Are red cell indices (MCV, MCH, MCHC) monitored routinely to detect
random errors?) that states "...Patient sample red cell indices
(Wintrobe indices or MCV, MCH, MCHC) should be monitored routinely to
detect random errors, instrument malfunction, or spurious
results...." *

Since we also always do RBC Morphology yearly on these patients by
reviewing peripheral smears on all MCVs > 105 wouldn't that be enough
to verify that we are not missing falsely increased MCVs?  I was
thinking that it would, and also educating everyone to make sure they
look for rouleaux in these cases.

Thanks,
Karen

*www.cap.org/apps/docs/laboratory_accreditation/checklists/hematology_coagulation
_october2005.doc

COMMISSION ON LABORATORY ACCREDITATION
Laboratory Accreditation Program
HEMATOLOGY - COAGULATION CHECKLIST
©2005. College of American Pathologists
Manky Badger - 19 Nov 2005 15:54 GMT
>I am a medial technologist working at a large inter city hospital in
>the Core Lab.  In Hematology, we are currently checking every MCV >105
>by making a 1:3 dilution and then running again through our Hematology
>analyzer to verify that it is not caused from rouleaux.  We are also
>maintaining a card file of all our patients with MCVs >105 excepting
>certain patients with explained increased MCVs.

>I just downloaded and read the 2005 CAP requirement (HEM.30200-Phase I
>Are red cell indices (MCV, MCH, MCHC) monitored routinely to detect
>random errors?) that states "...Patient sample red cell indices
>(Wintrobe indices or MCV, MCH, MCHC) should be monitored routinely to
>detect random errors, instrument malfunction, or spurious
>results...." *

>Since we also always do RBC Morphology yearly on these patients by
>reviewing peripheral smears on all MCVs > 105 wouldn't that be enough
>to verify that we are not missing falsely increased MCVs?  I was
>thinking that it would, and also educating everyone to make sure they
>look for rouleaux in these cases.

What analyser are you using?
If there is rouleaux or cold agglutinins, whilst the MCV might be raised,
the MCHC is clearly a nonsense being >50

Also when you say " we also always do RBC Morphology yearly on these
patients by reviewing peripheral smears on all MCVs > 105" is 105 your lower
limit? We use 100 & we review far too many IMHO.
reallybigmidget2 - 19 Nov 2005 17:18 GMT
We are using Advia 120 with the Advia 70 as backup.  We review MCVs
that are greater than 105.  We also did this when we had a Becman
Coulder GenS analyzer a year ago.

Karen
reallybigmidget2 - 19 Nov 2005 17:20 GMT
Can you explain "whilst the MCV might be raised, the MCHC is clearly a
nonsense being >50 ".  I'm not sure I understand.

Karen
Manky Badger - 20 Nov 2005 18:32 GMT
> Can you explain "whilst the MCV might be raised, the MCHC is clearly a
> nonsense being >50 ".  I'm not sure I understand.

An MCHC simply cannot be much higher than (about) 37.5.
Possibly in extreme cases of spherocytosis it may get to 39.
Red cells are as saturated with haemoglobin as is possible for them to get
at this point.

But if an MCHC is over 50 then clearly the results are wrong, it just
doesn't happen. Ever.
 
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