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Question about probability of obtaining a position as a MT

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Julie - 14 Sep 2004 01:13 GMT
Hi.  I have a couple of questions to pose to pathologists, MTs or MLTs
regarding the probability of finding a job as an MT.

Here is the situation:  I graduated in 1997 with a BS in Medical
Technology.  I passed my BOR exam and also passed the NCA exam.  I was
unable to obtain employment as a MT after an extensive search.  I
worked for a while as a data analyst and then made a career change to
the field of IT.  I have worked in the field of IT for five years now
and am currently trying to find a new job.  I have been unable to do
so I have contemplated trying to find a job as a MT.  I have sent out
my resume but so far have had no response.  I recently started working
on CE credits through ASCP.  In hindsight, I probably should have
worked harder to find a job as an MT after I graduated, however I now
realize that being an MT is what I want to do.  I know that doing this
would be a challenge because I have been away from it for a number of
years but I have confidence that with training and dedication on my
part, that I could do this.

So here are my questions:

1.  What is the probability of finding a job as an MT?  Should I just
give up or should I pursue?

2.  Should I note on my resume that I am working on CE credits and how
many I have obtained so far?  I assume yes, but I am wondering the
best way to note this.

Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Julie
Philadelphia, PA
John Gentile - 15 Sep 2004 02:57 GMT
> Hi.  I have a couple of questions to pose to pathologists, MTs or MLTs
> regarding the probability of finding a job as an MT.
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> Julie
> Philadelphia, PA

I would say that the chances are pretty good. We haven't been at full
strength for several years, although we have a possibility to have all MT
positions filled in the next few months. Try the usual hospitals and the VA
or even the military.

As for the CE just notate it that you are continuing to keep current.
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Julie - 16 Sep 2004 01:17 GMT
John,

Thank you for your insight.  

> I would say that the chances are pretty good. We haven't been at full
> strength for several years, although we have a possibility to have all MT
> positions filled in the next few months. Try the usual hospitals and the VA
> or even the military.
>
> As for the CE just notate it that you are continuing to keep current.
Don - 19 Sep 2004 00:34 GMT
> Hi.  I have a couple of questions to pose to pathologists, MTs or MLTs
> regarding the probability of finding a job as an MT.
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> the field of IT.  I have worked in the field of IT for five years now
> and am currently trying to find a new job.  >3

> 1.  What is the probability of finding a job as an MT?  Should I just
> give up or should I pursue?

I think it depends on where in the country you are looking. Basically, a lot
of techs are leaving the field. You shouldn't have a problem.

> 2.  Should I note on my resume that I am working on CE credits and how
> many I have obtained so far?  I assume yes, but I am wondering the
> best way to note this.

I would note simple that you have been keeping up on CEs. Convey that though
you were in IT, you were keeping up. But do not get too specific. Also, I
would note your IT experience as well.

Don, MT
Julie - 20 Sep 2004 21:08 GMT
> > Hi.  I have a couple of questions to pose to pathologists, MTs or MLTs
> > regarding the probability of finding a job as an MT.
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>
> Don, MT

Don,  Thank you for your input.  I unfortunately did not keep up with
the CE while I have been working in IT.  However, I recently started
working on them.  I know that it is a lot of work because I have to
re-learn alot even though much of the information is familiar.

What about training?  Do most labs expect someone to walk in and know
their way around or do they provide training?

I am looking for a job in the Philadelphia, PA/Wilmington, DE area.  I
have read about the shortage of MTs and MLTs, however I don't know if
it is a problem in the area I am looking.

Thanks

Julie
Ikonoclast - 21 Sep 2004 01:09 GMT
> I am looking for a job in the Philadelphia, PA/Wilmington, DE area.  I
> have read about the shortage of MTs and MLTs, however I don't know if
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>
> Julie

Have you tried Advance magazine?  It is a free publications for MT's and
they have quite a job listing.  Can also try:

http://health-care-jobs.advanceweb.com/main.aspx

We've had quite a few openings here in the Phoenix area but I think most
positions have been filled.  There is a considerable shortage but it
will vary state to state.  Most will train, they don't care a lot about
CE's here where I work since they take ASCP.

good luck

Mike
JEDilworth - 25 Sep 2004 06:17 GMT
If you are ASCP, I would think that, by definition, you would be deemed
"trainable." However, the longer you are out of the field, the harder
it's going to be to find someone who will take you on, especially if
you're competing against a newly minted student. The problem is that a
lot of the equipment you trained on is now considered "old" and is
probably gone from the lab.

Is your student advisor still around? Would he/she be willing to go to
bat for you and write a letter of recommendation? How were your grades?
How were your scores on the exams? All of this will take on greater
importance without actual work experience.

If you've been out since 1997, I would guess that micro would be a
difficult department to get into. Micro takes almost a year to get
through all departments, and I'm sure our department would want someone
fresh out of training or with micro experience. It will all depend upon
where in the country you want to go. You may also have to begin on an
evening or night shift, as day shift positions, at least in my neck of
the woods, are extremely hard to come by.

Good luck.

Judy Dilworth, M.T. (ASCP)
Microbiology 29 years

"Julie" <alloway@micheldist.com> wrote in message

Hi.  I have a couple of questions to pose to pathologists, MTs or MLTs
regarding the probability of finding a job as an MT.
Julie - 04 Oct 2004 20:02 GMT
Judy,

Thank you for your input.  I appreciate it.

Since I made my first post, I have contacted a friend from college.
She actually helped me get an interview that is coming up later this
week for an evening shift position.  It is in Micro and I do agree
that Micro would be the hardest discipline to break into.  If nothing
else, I will use the interview as a time to find out what the manager
thinks is the chances of finding a position.  I have been studying but
I admit that I am nervous because studying is a lot different that
actually doing hands-on work.

I have been trying to get in touch with some of my professors to see
what their thoughts are on the situation but have not had any luck
yet.  As far as grades go, I was a B student and was 6 of 20 in the MT
class.  I don't know scores from exams except that I passed them both
(ASCP and NCA) on the first try.

I live in the Philadelphia area.  There seem to be a good number of
openings which I am surprised b/c there are a number of MT programs in
the area.

Thank you again for your input.

Julie

> If you are ASCP, I would think that, by definition, you would be deemed
> "trainable." However, the longer you are out of the field, the harder
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> Hi.  I have a couple of questions to pose to pathologists, MTs or MLTs
> regarding the probability of finding a job as an MT.
JEDilworth - 05 Oct 2004 04:58 GMT
If you're interviewing for an evening shift microbiology position (which
I worked solo from 1988 to 1996 at a former employer [they closed the
hospital in 12/96]), I would bone up on gram staining questions, as
you'll probably be reading a LOT of those [this is probably the most
important skill you will be using on second shift, so read up on it],
subculturing positive blood cultures and reading smears from those,
possibly performing rapid testing (strep screens, RSV's, Rotavirus
testing, Rapid flu testing) besides setting up specimens that come in on
your shift. Stress how you are organized, you are teachable and learn
quickly, and that you know how to set priorities. For example, if you
have a STAT strep screen, a CSF, and a positive blood  culture all occur
at the same time how would you handle this? What is more important? My
personal priorities ALWAYS are CSF, blood culture, then anything else.
You order and set up the CSF and get the gram stain draying. You pull
the positive blood culture during the drying time and make the blood
culture smear and get that drying. Then you start the rapid strep. By
the time the rapid strep is done and reported, the other smears will be
almost finished drying. You then stain both the slides at the same time,
read the CSF first (call if that's the policy), then read the positive
BC and call that. Then take care of any STATS that have backed up
(hopefully none) while all this was going on.

Rapid RSV testing is performed a lot in hospital labs that serve
pediatric populations, especially from fall until spring. This website
gives you information on it:

http://www.rsvinfo.com/diagnosing/diagnosing.html#sub2

Rapid testing for this is much more popular than it was ten years ago,
so it's worth a read.

I would stress that you are willing to learn, review microbiology basics
ahead of time (selective media, streaking and isolation techniques), and
stress you are also not computer shy. Most big labs now use paperless
micro - i.e. no worksheets. Everything is entered directly into the
computer and everything is ordered up directly, with labels printed out,
usually barcoded, to apply to the plates. The fact that there's even an
evening position open implies that this is a fairly large lab, as many
smaller labs just use generalists to staff second shift. All is teamwork
nowadays - that's the management buzzword. You will be a team player
:-).

My team leader recently had to choose between two MT students that were
graduating. Both had worked extra in micro during their internship doing
all of the above. He chose one over the other because she was prepared
with questions to ask, had her resume ready, and was very well organized
in her interview. She also jumped right up immediately to do any work
that came in, while the other one was a bit more laid back about that.
The other student was not quite as prepared, pretty much assumed he had
the job going into the interview, and was therefore shocked when he
didn't get the job. He did get hired at one of our sister hospitals for
an open full time third shift position. The point is that on second
shift, at least at our place, it is extremely busy. Most labs get 2/3 of
their specimens coming in after 3 p.m. Your ability to prioritize and
convey that to your interviewers will be what is important to them. I've
worked second shift microbiology since 1988 and it can be dead one
minute and an absolute zoo 15 minutes later. I've always found that when
there's free time you must resist the feeling of sitting down and doing
nothing unless everything (!) is cleaned up, because five minutes later
you won't have time. You must put plates away, clean up disorganized
benches, pull negative blood cultures off machines, do pending lists, do
overdue lists, read those three gram stains that are sitting there and
not leave them until later. That's the key to working an evening shift
in micro.

I currently work for a large micro lab that does the microbiology for
four hospitals. We have 6-7 techs just on second shift, with three
dedicated to just doing specimen setup every night, and everyone comes
up front to help at the end of the shift just so we can get everything
done and go home.

Hope you get the job.

Judy Dilworth, M.T. (ASCP)
Microbiology

> Judy,
>
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> week for an evening shift position.  It is in Micro and I do agree
> that Micro would be the hardest discipline to break into.
Arcie - 06 Oct 2004 20:20 GMT
Julie,

Where have you been looking.  There is a shortage of MT nationwide.
Most hospitals have listings.  Check with Advance for Laboratory
Professionals Magazine

Arcie

> Hi.  I have a couple of questions to pose to pathologists, MTs or MLTs
> regarding the probability of finding a job as an MT.
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> Julie
> Philadelphia, PA
Julie - 11 Oct 2004 20:15 GMT
Hi Arcie,

I am looking in the Philadelphia suburban area, Delaware and New
Jersey.  I recently started receiving Advance again and will be
looking in that.

Thanks for your response.

Julie

> Julie,
>
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> > Julie
> > Philadelphia, PA
 
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