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Who infected me with herpes???

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Tom - 28 Aug 2005 20:46 GMT
Hello All,

I had my primary outbreak from genital herpes on 2/7/2005. I got very ill
and was very uncomfortable for about 6 weeks! I since had many, many
outbreaks and still having trouble, although its starting to get better. I
am still trying to figure out who gave me herpes.

I slept with a woman on 11/4/2004 and before that on 7/2/2004. The person
that I slept with in November said that she had a herpes test in mid spring
2005 and that she does NOT have herpes either 1 or 2, we did NOT use
protection when we had sex in November. We also had oral sex - unprotected.

The person that I slept with in July 04' said that she has herpes 1 as cold
sores but rarely at that and as "far as she knows" she doesn't have genital
herpes, because she hasn't had any outbreaks. She hasn't had a test, and she
has been around the block a few times if you know what I mean, although when
we slept together we used condoms for the sex. We also had oral sex but that
was unprotected. When I told this person from July I had gotten herpes, she
seemed not to think it was a big deal. She asked me if I thought she should
get tested, but said it in an almost sarcastic way. When I talked to her
about my condition, all of a sudden knew alot about valtrex as far as what
the pills looked like, how big they were and also knew about genital herpes
in general.

Now the thing is that neither persons mentioned above told me that they had
herpes if either did. I still don't know who gave me herpes, but I am
thinking that it was the person from July. If it was her, why would the
primary outbreak come out 7 months later??? I thought an outbreak usually
comes out 2-4 weeks from the day of infection. Any thoughts on this would be
great...

If an outbreak can come out months after infection, is that true for both
type 1 and 2 or both?

Thanks,
drew - 29 Aug 2005 06:11 GMT
> Hello All,

> Now the thing is that neither persons mentioned above told me that they had
> herpes if either did. I still don't know who gave me herpes, but I am
> thinking that it was the person from July. If it was her, why would the
> primary outbreak come out 7 months later??? I thought an outbreak usually
> comes out 2-4 weeks from the day of infection. Any thoughts on this would be
> great...

This is very strange if we are to believe everything that is supposedly
known about herpes 1 and 2.

It wouldn't be so unusual if you didn't have an obvious primary
outbreak.  I could understand it if you were asymptomatic but infected
then later something happened to your system to cause the outbreaks but
the primary outbreak is an acute reaction and shouldn't occur so long
after exposure.

Have you tested positive for HSV?  If so what explanation does your
clinician have for this unusual situation?

Please keep us posted if you get an explanation for what happened to
you.
Grant - 29 Aug 2005 11:49 GMT
You can have herpes for years before you have your primary.  I had mild
outbreaks for months before I had the classic "primary."

ar

>> Hello All,
>
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>Please keep us posted if you get an explanation for what happened to
>you.
Angela S. - 29 Aug 2005 23:03 GMT
> Hello All,
>
> I had my primary outbreak from genital herpes on 2/7/2005. I got very ill
> and was very uncomfortable for about 6 weeks! I since had many, many
> outbreaks and still having trouble, although its starting to get better. I
> am still trying to figure out who gave me herpes.

The only way to tell if your primary outbreak is from your most recent
partner is if you have a positive culture done and a negative herpes
antibody blood test result. Since you have had more than one partner in your
life time AND you are past the point of checking for recent infection you
may never know who you contracted herpes simplex virus from.

> I slept with a woman on 11/4/2004 and before that on 7/2/2004. The person
> that I slept with in November said that she had a herpes test in mid
> spring
> 2005 and that she does NOT have herpes either 1 or 2, we did NOT use
> protection when we had sex in November. We also had oral sex -
> unprotected.

Well ~ you are still passed the point of being able to know if your 1st time
infection was from a recent partner. Also, how can you be sure she was
actually tested for herpes? You can't really unless you went with her to the
doctor's office AND were present during the test result reading AND
confident that she actually had proper herpes testing done.

> The person that I slept with in July 04' said that she has herpes 1 as
> cold
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> she
> has been around the block a few times

We all know that having "been around the block a few times" doesn't mean
anything. All it takes is "one time" to have an std turn up.

> if you know what I mean, although when
> we slept together we used condoms for the sex.

We all know (hopefully) that condoms do not cover the entire genital area
which means that you can still contract herpes via condom usage.

> We also had oral sex but that
> was unprotected. When I told this person from July I had gotten herpes,
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> thinking that it was the person from July. If it was her, why would the
> primary outbreak come out 7 months later???

A person can have herpes for years before they have their primary outbreak.

> I thought an outbreak usually
> comes out 2-4 weeks from the day of infection. Any thoughts on this would
> be
> great...

It's true that a first time primary outbreak can happen anywhere from 2
weeks and on after having contracted herpes simplex virus for the 1st time.

> If an outbreak can come out months after infection, is that true for both
> type 1 and 2 or both?

It's true for both types really ~

Good Luck,

Angela ;-)

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Angela S. - 29 Aug 2005 23:07 GMT
Tom ~

Was it you that said you had the book "Managing Herpes - How to Live and
Love with a Chronic STD" ?

If you have the one written by Charles Ebel and Anna Wald be sure you go to
pages: 232 and 233.

Pay close attention to "FIRST EPISODE".

Hang in there,

Angela ;-)

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Tom - 29 Aug 2005 23:45 GMT
Hi Everyone,

Yes it was me that has that book: Managing Herpes - How to Live and
> Love with a Chronic STD. I read the information on pg 232-233 and it seems
to define what could have happened to me. I could have been infected with
hsv1 early on and didn't know it and then got hsv2 from a person lets say
the woman from 11/04 or I could have had it a while lets say 10 years and
then never knew or felt I had any outbreaks and all of a sudden got a first
episode in 2/05. I think the latter is more true for me.

I do know that the person from 11/04 has been known to lie about things, so
it is possible that she didn't really get a test done at all and that she
may even have it already. I kind of feel that it is odd that she contacted
me in the late spring wanting me to "see her" even though she said she
didn't have herpes and she knows I have it.

Thanks for your input on this subject.

> Tom ~
>
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>
> Angela ;-)
 
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