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Tom - 15 Aug 2005 01:56 GMT
Hello Again,

After having herpes for a while I have come to the conclusion that there are
various types of sores that appear depending on several "unknown factors" I
suppose. When I first started getting having a problem with genital herpes,
the sores were mainly in the form of prickly red pimples on the inner
thighs, sometimes a single painful one above the anus. Later on I have had
other types such as swollen blisters on the genitals (top area), reddish
cuts in the groin or reddish patches a few inches about the genitals.
Recently I had this even more odd type of sore. What happens is I get what
looks like a paper cut on the genital area. It measures about a half in or
slightly more in length. Closely examining it will reveal tiny punched out
looking dots all in a row. Above the "paper cut" is a red swollen area with
a series of tiny red dots all in a group.

Does anyone know why herpes is taking all these different looks when it
comes to sores?

Thanks,

Tom
Angela S. - 15 Aug 2005 03:16 GMT
"> Does anyone know why herpes is taking all these different looks when it
> comes to sores?

Herpes outbreaks come in all shapes and sizes and sometimes in ways that you
can't see.

That's the nature of the virus.

Angela

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yansimon52 - 16 Aug 2005 09:05 GMT
Tom, have you try covering those herpes sores with 'freshly burnt'
ashes?

If, you do encounter some 'ant biting' feeling, then, the healing is
working for you.....
Usually, after a few applications (with freshly burnt ashes), it would
dried up the sores and probably stop the spreading...better than
spending money by using those exppensive medical cream.....
Well, as I said, this method of using freshly burnt ashes is not a
total cure......it is just a temporary ploy to stop the
spreading.....to cure it, other method of treatments got to be followed
ie. by consumming those 'unorthodox herbs' in order to treat unorthodox
sickness............simple as that.....
Tom - 17 Aug 2005 02:07 GMT
I haven't tried putting ashes there, but if I were going to, where would I
get the ashes from? I quit smoking 6 years ago...
Are you sure this is a good thing to do? I am kind of leery about doing that
because I have had so much physical pain from having herpes I don't want to
take too many chances...

> Tom, have you try covering those herpes sores with 'freshly burnt'
> ashes?
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> ie. by consumming those 'unorthodox herbs' in order to treat unorthodox
> sickness............simple as that.....
Angela S. - 17 Aug 2005 02:18 GMT
Tom,

This guy/gal is an Iggert. You don't want to put ashes on your outbreaks.
It's not something I personally would take a chance on. I'd much rather take
my chances with things that have been proven.

I do hope you find some relief soon.

Angela ;-)

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>I haven't tried putting ashes there, but if I were going to, where would I
> get the ashes from? I quit smoking 6 years ago...
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> to
> take too many chances...
yansimon52 - 17 Aug 2005 04:24 GMT
> Tom,
>
> This guy/gal is an Iggert. You don't want to put ashes on your outbreaks.

If, you can use very cheap alternative to replace those expensive
medical creams, I don't see there is any problem to that....

Are you trying to sell medical products overhere??

> It's not something I personally would take a chance on. I'd much rather take
> my chances with things that have been proven.
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> > to
> > take too many chances...
Angela S. - 17 Aug 2005 05:08 GMT
>> Tom,
>>
>> This guy/gal is an Iggert. You don't want to put ashes on your outbreaks.
>
> If, you can use very cheap alternative to replace those expensive
> medical creams, I don't see there is any problem to that....

Actually ~ it's better to keep the area with the outbreak clean and dry.

> Are you trying to sell medical products overhere??

I'd like to know which brand of ashes you recommend?

No, not trying to sell anything.. merely sharing 10 years of my own personal
experience with genital herpes.

Angela ;-)

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yansimon52 - 17 Aug 2005 07:20 GMT
By applying those freshly burnt ashes, you immediately dried up those
sores, so where is the problem?????

The problem is, to apply on male's genital is much much easilier than
to apply that on a female's vagina.....LOL...LOL..LOL....
yansimon52 - 17 Aug 2005 04:05 GMT
Anything that goes with things 'natural' you are on the safe
side.........it is those strong chemical produce by medical science,
then, you got to worry about......

To get 'freshly burnt ashes' , you could easily get it from your
freshly burnt cigarrette's ashes and its harmless......Only thing is,
you will encounter some 'ant biting' feeling  for awhile, upon
application.......
The ant biting feeling indicate that those viruses are getting fed-up
with those ashes caused, viruses, an agent from the darkside loathe the
sight of purity........
Freshly burnt ashes had just derived from the spiritual element of
fire, not forgetting that fire is an 'element of spirit'..
Of course, there is a difference between freshly burnt ashes and
overnight ashes.....so, freshly burnt ashes are much more effective
yansimon52 - 17 Aug 2005 04:14 GMT
Not forgetting that 'virus die when exposed to light...clearly indicate
that those viruses derived from the darkside....That is why, in other
viral infections ie. those deadly aids viruses, their primarily target
are to invade the human's purity blood system and if, left untreated,
these viruses would then invade the human's spiritual head in its final
stage (of infection).

Hey, you must speak to the pro like us.......

By asking you to apply freshly burnt ashes is just the first step, a
temporary measure, in containing the herpes outbreaks, of course, other
method also need to follow in order for you to wipe off these herpes
viruses in your body system...ie. to tackle an 'unorthodox sickness'
one need to tackle it with 'unorthodox herbs', commonly known as
'indoor plants'....
Angela S. - 17 Aug 2005 05:12 GMT
uh-huh whatever you say..

> Not forgetting that 'virus die when exposed to light...clearly indicate
> that those viruses derived from the darkside....That is why, in other
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> one need to tackle it with 'unorthodox herbs', commonly known as
> 'indoor plants'....
Angela S. - 17 Aug 2005 05:11 GMT
> Anything that goes with things 'natural' you are on the safe
> side.........it is those strong chemical produce by medical science,
> then, you got to worry about......

Everybody knows that's not true! lol

> To get 'freshly burnt ashes' , you could easily get it from your
> freshly burnt cigarrette's ashes and its harmless......Only thing is,
> you will encounter some 'ant biting' feeling  for awhile, upon
> application.......

Oh sure ~ it's perfectly ok to take in second hand smoke in order to get to
the "ashes" that you would use to treat your outbreak.

> The ant biting feeling indicate that those viruses are getting fed-up
> with those ashes caused, viruses, an agent from the darkside loathe the
> sight of purity........

What country do you live in?

> Freshly burnt ashes had just derived from the spiritual element of
> fire, not forgetting that fire is an 'element of spirit'..
> Of course, there is a difference between freshly burnt ashes and
> overnight ashes.....so, freshly burnt ashes are much more effective

What about ashes created from the coals of a long weekend bar-b-q?

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yansimon52 - 17 Aug 2005 07:17 GMT
> > Anything that goes with things 'natural' you are on the safe
> > side.........it is those strong chemical produce by medical science,
> > then, you got to worry about......
>
> Everybody knows that's not true! lol

Not true??????
How about the recent emergence of 'antibiotic resistent' cases facing
world medical communities???????

How about taking those earlier approved (by FDA) AZT aids drug that
aids suferers were facing abnormal hair growth on tongue areas????

How about those dependent on Panadol or valium (drug) to counter their
ailment and it turns out be be addicted to it..

> > To get 'freshly burnt ashes' , you could easily get it from your
> > freshly burnt cigarrette's ashes and its harmless......Only thing is,
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Oh sure ~ it's perfectly ok to take in second hand smoke in order to get to
> the "ashes" that you would use to treat your outbreak.

Over in Asia, we see seasoned smokers that live thru the right old age
(90 yrs or more) and they don't encounter lung cancer..Why??????

Reason is, overhere, we don't consumme as much 'red meats' as compared
to westerner. Spiritually speaking, taking too much red meats damaged
the body's spirituality and by inhaling those spiritual element of
'smoke' (smoke derived from the element of fire) they simply
crashed........

Hey, human is not just made up of 'flesh and bones' only, there is
'something' very spiritual in us that we normally call it as the
'spiritual soul'..do you get it???

> > The ant biting feeling indicate that those viruses are getting fed-up
> > with those ashes caused, viruses, an agent from the darkside loathe the
> > sight of purity........
>
> What country do you live in?

I am from the east, where, the Solar's Sun is quite close to us and
understanding spirituality is our forte...that is why, as far as
spiritual sickness is concerned, we know how to tackle it....

> > Freshly burnt ashes had just derived from the spiritual element of
> > fire, not forgetting that fire is an 'element of spirit'..
> > Of course, there is a difference between freshly burnt ashes and
> > overnight ashes.....so, freshly burnt ashes are much more effective
>
> What about ashes created from the coals of a long weekend bar-b-q?

You are quite cheeky!!!!

> Angela ;-)
>
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Tim Fitzmaurice - 22 Aug 2005 15:56 GMT
>>> Anything that goes with things 'natural' you are on the safe
>>> side.........it is those strong chemical produce by medical science,
>>> then, you got to worry about......
>>
>> Everybody knows that's not true! lol

One side point before I get into the meat of this - medicine or science
please, they are two seperate fields, with different purposes, both feed
into the other with medicein looking to scientific research for answers
and a lot of science being done on questions asked by medics but they are
not monogamous bedmates....you do seem to tie the two together a bit too
much at the philosophical level - or at least appear to do so.

> Not true??????

Yes, its not true.....there are plenty of 'strong chemicals' around in
nature - look at belladonna, digitalis, Clostridium botulinum, poison
arrow frogs to raise those I can think off in half a second...all the
above incidentally are used or have been used in some form in medicine at
some stage or another despite being known as toxic.

Add in St johns wort and the interactions that was quite capable of
kicking off despite its effective use being described, then quinine and
for what its worth aspirin - both of which are natural sourced compounds.
Let us add in cocaine given its derived from a plant, used for altitude
sickness etc yet can have all sorts of side effects.

THen you have issues with qualitycontrol - one of the problems with
unprocessed materials and even some processed materials of natural origin
is contamination - Traditional Chinese medicine practitioners here in
Europe had a nightmare fo a time with contaminated herbs coming in a few
years back, and we needed go into the issue of human growth hormone of
natural origin, I hope.....

The issues of how many problems you have don;t fit into a nice natural vs
unnatural split - its dependant on what you are using, what you are doing
with it (eg treatment vs abuse), how aggressively you are using it, and
how potent the compound is...ie at an individual level

PLants and animals have a fundamentally large set of extremely active
compounds - care is needed if you use them as much as any other compound.

> How about the recent emergence of 'antibiotic resistent' cases facing
> world medical communities???????

THis one is something of a laughter maker Im afraid, in the context you
use it. Penicillin is after all a yeast/mold product and the resistance to
it and related compounds is merely an entirely natural response by the
bacterial populations to their environment. The problem would arise no
matter how you made the antibiotics.

> How about taking those earlier approved (by FDA) AZT aids drug that
> aids suferers were facing abnormal hair growth on tongue areas????

I cite galantamine, a plant derived medication for Alzheimers (Daffodils
IIRC). It has side effects quite a few despite being relatively well
tolerated for the sort of drug it is.
As to abnormal hair growth in the above situation - please cite - its not
an example Ive seen before and I wonder if you are not confusing oral
hairy leukoplakia with hair growth.

> How about those dependent on Panadol or valium (drug) to counter their
> ailment and it turns out be be addicted to it..

Irrelevant while the opium poppy exists. I also raise cocaine, cannabis
and tobacco as addictive natural products.

> Over in Asia, we see seasoned smokers that live thru the right old age
> (90 yrs or more) and they don't encounter lung cancer..Why??????

Same reason we see them over here in the west - not every smoking related
disorder is lung cancer, not everyone will get lung cancer - its a risk
adjuster which is why it took so long to get the warnings on the packets,
also there is the hardy survivor effect which is applicable to any adverse
effect.....you do not describe an Asia unique event.

Tim
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yansimon52 - 23 Aug 2005 02:07 GMT
Hi Tim,

Very responsible and constructive questions you had asked and
commented, I'll like it....

Basically, to understand all healing method of treatment, one needs
firstly, to understand what and who you are dealing with...Take for
example, we are now talking about dealing with a warm blooded human 's
sacred body, you definitely got to respect that.....Secondly, before
applying any sort of herb/medicine, one also, needs to understand
Nature's Creation on all herbs (also, to make medicine from it) or
fruit/veggies ie.. where you normally find from temperate
herbs/fruits/veggies that come with more 'minerals' as compared to
tropical herbs/fruits/veggies that contain more 'enzymes'. Comparing an
apple against a tropical pineapple a (typical pineapple grow very well
in a tropical region), you see an apple with alot of minerals eaten by
most westerner give a stronger and bigger physical body as compared to
most tropical people that come in smaller physical built..
To be a damn good physician one needs to understand this geographical
natural arrangement, its environment on its natural  settings (its
vegetation and spiritual well being) before you are talking about
understanding a sicknesses either as a modern days sicknesses or an old
fashion sicknesses.....

In am afraid, up to now, medical science just know on how to treat any
sicknesses base on its very direct treatment ie. by just pouring alot
of antibiotics, as a good germ to kill bad germ concept cause, medical
science look at a human body in a very direct manner ie. an organ is
just an organ...Whereas, overhere, as a holistic physician, we look at
a human body from a different angle ie. the human sacred body's organs
are an entire 'mini Solar System' that run parallel to our existing
Solar System we all live in..
That is why, you see all these while medical science can't really have
the knowledge to deal with those modern days cireus derived
sicknesses.... very sad indeed........
yansimon52 - 23 Aug 2005 05:01 GMT
> Hi Tim,
>
[quoted text clipped - 31 lines]
> the knowledge to deal with those modern days cireus derived
> sicknesses.... very sad indeed........

When you talked about those 'old fashion' sicknesses ie. cancer,
diabetes and etc..well, medical science is very capable in dealing with
these bacterial/germ derived sickness, where, a simple surgery of 'cut
and paste' method could easily solve the problem but, not so when
facing modern days virus derived sicknesses...Caused, to deal with
these virus derived sicknesses we are talking about on things,
spiritual..dealing with something concerning the human's soul
(spirituality)......
yansimon52 - 23 Aug 2005 02:24 GMT
Probably, due to medical science lack in understanding on this sort of
Nature creation, that may have caused the recent emergence of
antibiotic resistent.......caused, they (MS) are not so sure on what
they are dealing with.. those poisoneous fungii that made antibiotics..

Hey, there are other natural substitute in replacing the use of
antibiotic to treat infectious diseases....do you know that?
Grant - 17 Aug 2005 23:11 GMT
The very LAST thing I'm going to do is put the ashes of some disgusting
cigarette on my body in a place where that crap from the cigarette could be
absorbed into my body.  This is ridiculous.

And NO, not everything "natural" is safe.  Nor can it be good for you.  So much
misinformation...so little time...

ar

>Anything that goes with things 'natural' you are on the safe
>side.........it is those strong chemical produce by medical science,
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>Of course, there is a difference between freshly burnt ashes and
>overnight ashes.....so, freshly burnt ashes are much more effective
yansimon52 - 18 Aug 2005 11:12 GMT
You won't be surprise to see result with this sort of simple and cheap
method (of application) afterall, what is there for you to lose?

Taking into consideration that, in the first place, your blood system
is already been 'invaded' by those foreign aliens (herpes viruses)....

To provide you with some assurance, just try to use it (freshly burnt
ashes) on  some simple skin rashes, especially, from those virus
derived sort and you see that the 'itchness' would suddenly go away..

Yeah, I knows too, that by applying ashes is too messy but, most
importantly it must work to suppress the herpes outbreak..

Anyway, its your choice and needless to say, I have no rights to impose
on you people on this ashes thingy...its totally up to you........its
only a suggestion from me out of good gesture.....as an asian holistic
physician who specialise on thing virus.....

> The very LAST thing I'm going to do is put the ashes of some disgusting
> cigarette on my body in a place where that crap from the cigarette could be
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> >Of course, there is a difference between freshly burnt ashes and
> >overnight ashes.....so, freshly burnt ashes are much more effective
M.L.S. - 18 Aug 2005 14:43 GMT
>You won't be surprise to see result with this sort of simple and cheap
>method (of application) afterall, what is there for you to lose?

>Taking into consideration that, in the first place, your blood system
>is already been 'invaded' by those foreign aliens (herpes viruses)....

Actually, except in acute cases, where the person's immune system is
already compromised, the herpes virus is not found in the blood.

>To provide you with some assurance, just try to use it (freshly burnt
>ashes) on  some simple skin rashes, especially, from those virus
>derived sort and you see that the 'itchness' would suddenly go away..

>Yeah, I knows too, that by applying ashes is too messy but, most
>importantly it must work to suppress the herpes outbreak..

*Why* "must" it work?  Depending on the type of wood and the method
used to burn it, the resultant ash could contain a whole bunch of
crap.  Ash is usually alkaline, which might not sit well on some
people's skin.  Ash can also contain Calcium oxide, Aluminum oxide,
magnesium oxide, and ferric oxide, some of which can cause skin
disorders, or exacerbate existing skin conditions.

Not only that, but *burning* the wood is said to produce something
like twelves times as many cancer causing agents as burning tobacco.

>Anyway, its your choice and needless to say, I have no rights to impose
>on you people on this ashes thingy...its totally up to you........its
>only a suggestion from me out of good gesture.....as an asian holistic
>physician who specialise on thing virus.....

Thanks a lot!!!  It's been real.

Mike
Anonymous - 18 Aug 2005 16:35 GMT
>> You won't be surprise to see result with this sort of simple and cheap
>> method (of application) afterall, what is there for you to lose?
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>
> Mike

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