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brad t - 25 Jul 2005 15:58 GMT
I have a couple of questions - I can't seem to find answers on the
web:
1. After almost 2 years without any symptoms, my gf felt her
"prodrome" (burning sensation) over the weekend. Unfortunately, it
came on hours after we had sex. I did use a condom (I started doing
that after she told me her status). My question is: What happens
during a prodrome as far as shedding? I understand this is nature's
way of warning people, but was I exposed to the virus in the short
time period just before that?
2. She is now on Valtrex, but she wants to perform oral sex on me
during the outbreak. Any risks? The literature says no sex...
Thanks -
M2slo2cht@nospam.invalid - 25 Jul 2005 17:09 GMT
>1After almost 2 years without any symptoms, my gf felt her
>"prodrome" (burning sensation)

I'm assuming her prodrome was genital and not oral. Am I assuming
correctly?
(could be either one)

>came on hours after we had sex. I did use a condom (I started doing
>that after she told me her status). My question is: What happens
>during a prodrome as far as shedding?

Shedding can take place during prodrome. Problem is, you can't
actually tell exactly where the shedding it taking place. For genital
infections, it'll be somewhere in the boxer shorts area but the exact
location is tough to pin down.

>was I exposed to the virus in the short
>time period just before that?

Possibly. But a condom, although it covers only a part of you that may
come in contact with the virus, the part that it covers is your most
vulnerable part.

>2. She is now on Valtrex, but she wants to perform oral sex on me
>during the outbreak. Any risks? The literature says no sex...

The virus is spread by skin to skin contact but not just any skin will
do. The skin doing the shedding is the infectious part. So if your
girlfriend is shedding genitally, and not orally, then when she is
giving you oral sex there's no contact. between your genitals and the
virus. That's the simplest way I can explain it.

M2
brad t - 25 Jul 2005 17:54 GMT
>>1After almost 2 years without any symptoms, my gf felt her
>>"prodrome" (burning sensation)
>
>I'm assuming her prodrome was genital and not oral. Am I assuming
>correctly?
>(could be either one)

Yes, her prodrome was a burning sensation in the genital area. She has
Type 2 only. I have Type 1 (cold sores once in a while).

>>came on hours after we had sex. I did use a condom (I started doing
>>that after she told me her status). My question is: What happens
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>giving you oral sex there's no contact. between your genitals and the
>virus. That's the simplest way I can explain it.

From what I've read, the virus enters through "broken" skin or mucuous
membranes. Is the penis considered a mucuous membrane? What about the
inner thigh? Some web sites say the buttocks are too thick, for
example, but it's kind of hard to tell exactly what area of your body
is considered "porous" to the virus.
M2slo2cht@nospam.invalid - 25 Jul 2005 18:28 GMT
>From what I've read, the virus enters through "broken" skin or mucuous
>membranes.

Correct.

>Is the penis considered a mucuous membrane?

Yep.
Lips too.

>What about the inner thigh?

I'm no expert but I think that's not considered mucous membrane.

> it's kind of hard to tell exactly what area of your body
>is considered "porous" to the virus.

Generally, the virus has a much tougher time getting through any
normal skin (non-mucous membrane) without some help from cuts and/or
abrasions.

M2
brad t - 25 Jul 2005 18:50 GMT
>>From what I've read, the virus enters through "broken" skin or mucuous
>>membranes.
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>
>M2

I just found this in the medical references...

Mucuous membrane continuous with skin: At the nostrils, the lips, the
ears, the genital area, and the anus.

Specifically, for genital STDs:

1. The vagina
2. The clitoris
3. The covering of the glans penis (head of the penis)
4. The inside of the prepuce (foreskin)
 
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