Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Herpes / July 2005
How to 'contain' your herpes, the Holistic way..
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yansimon52 - 24 Jul 2005 15:01 GMT The first step......is to apply some 'freshly burnt' ashes, covering over the infected part.........
At the same time, avoid eating 'red meat'........
The next step...... is thru practising a certain type of meditation, its purpose is to cleanse the sacred body system.........and your herpese could be contained.........
The other method of totally wiping off those viruses hidden in your body system is thru concumming a certain category of herbal soup, derived from those 'unorthodox herbal' category.....Meaning..to treatr an unorthodox diseas, one needs to treat with unorthodox herbs.... simple as that......
M2slo2cht@nospam.invalid - 24 Jul 2005 17:04 GMT >The first step......is to apply some 'freshly burnt' ashes, covering >over the infected part......... PERL ?!?!? ................. izat you??? ;-)
Tom - 24 Jul 2005 20:29 GMT I was almost thinking the same thing!!! :o)
Actually I know that keeping your immune system healthy does good things for keeping away herpes. This past month I was under alot of stress at work, and not getting enough sleep, eating badly and not taking my vitamins, as a result I have been having some bothersome outbreaks. I know when I am taking better care of myself I get less outbreaks.
> >The first step......is to apply some 'freshly burnt' ashes, covering > >over the infected part......... > > PERL ?!?!? ................. izat you??? ;-) yansimon52 - 25 Jul 2005 01:18 GMT Immune sytem is one thing, of course, it helps in a way, but, a virus infection is a virus infection that those viruses would play 'havoc' to your body system, from time to time....These viruses could hide and even tend to attack 'joint areas' ie. over your knee, elbow or the backside and so on.. Why?
Thi is the tricky part is, where it needs one who is able to understand the 'modus operandi' of these viruses.....to 'arrest and contain' them (viruses) ..Being able to do that, then, you are talking about having these viruses to be contained (not totally eliminating them) and you could have a normal life...without having problem from these viruse outbreak every now and then..
Of course, the next step is, I am talking about applyinmg a certain technic on how to slowly 'chase away' or to eliminate those viruses out of your body system..........
Angela S. - 25 Jul 2005 01:19 GMT Imagine how the people that do everything the "right way" feel when they still get outbreaks.. lol
M2 you crack me up!
Speaking of cracks.. lol.. you should see what people are saying about HIV and AIDS over on the STD Message Board. There are actually fools running around on the net that believe that AIDS is a hoax and that HIV doesn't cause AIDS at all.
Angela :)
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>I was almost thinking the same thing!!! :o) > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >> >> PERL ?!?!? ................. izat you??? ;-) Perl Molson - 24 Jul 2005 21:45 GMT > >The first step......is to apply some 'freshly burnt' ashes, covering > >over the infected part......... > > PERL ?!?!? ................. izat you??? ;-) No, dude, that's not me.
All I do is putting piece by piece thousand years old folk remedies and fitting them together "under a new high-tech microscope".
Sonmetimes I have to bring my own creations, certain remedies, such as the one massaging the lymph and other organs situated around the trigeminal ganglia, with a long and heavy stick, and other ones mentioned in the past.
When I talk about remedies, I try to provide the reason WHY they work and try to fit the explanations with a layman profile.
Yansimon52 does not give us any reasons as such.
Perl von Molson
Angela S. - 25 Jul 2005 01:17 GMT Just when you think you've heard it all ... lol
Angela :)
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> The first step......is to apply some 'freshly burnt' ashes, covering > over the infected part......... [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > an unorthodox diseas, one needs to treat with unorthodox herbs.... > simple as that...... yansimon52 - 25 Jul 2005 01:36 GMT When aplying those ashes you normally, get this 'biting' feeling..meaning, those viruses loathe the ashes that you were applying..
Don't believe on what I am trying to say?
let me ask you all a simple question on why 'virus die when exposed to light' even medical science has yet to come out with an answer.....
I am not saying that by applying those ashes could totally wipe off your herpes viruse..what I am trying to say is, it helps to contain the spreading...
yansimon52 - 25 Jul 2005 01:41 GMT The other thing is, by using simple freshly burnt ashes is as much much cheaper and more effective than those expensive medical cream but, quite messy..
The most important thing is, the herpes outbreak must be contained and healing (totally wiping off those herpes viruses in your body system) is the next step one need to pursue..........
Perl Molson - 25 Jul 2005 04:27 GMT > The other thing is, by using simple freshly burnt ashes is as much much > cheaper and more effective than those expensive medical cream but, [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > healing (totally wiping off those herpes viruses in your body system) > is the next step one need to pursue.......... Are you trying to flame this group? Do I know you, by any chance? Did you ask your permission from these people to say your opinion or did I missed something?
Raise your hand first, then, if given approval, start talking, dude. Until then, stay on a side, watch, read and learn.
Perl von Molson
Angela S. - 25 Jul 2005 05:41 GMT Ya think!? lol
Ha Ha Ha Ha ~
Sorry but I just had to laugh a little bit after reading THAT.
Angela :)
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> The other thing is, by using simple freshly burnt ashes is as much much > cheaper and more effective than those expensive medical cream but, [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > healing (totally wiping off those herpes viruses in your body system) > is the next step one need to pursue.......... Angela S. - 25 Jul 2005 05:40 GMT How are you going to put ashes inside of the sacral ganglia? lol
Angela :)
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> When aplying those ashes you normally, get this 'biting' > feeling..meaning, those viruses loathe the ashes that you were [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > your herpes viruse..what I am trying to say is, it helps to contain the > spreading... Tim Fitzmaurice - 25 Jul 2005 11:05 GMT > let me ask you all a simple question on why 'virus die when exposed to > light' even medical science has yet to come out with an answer..... Pardon??? UV light exposure (a component of the sun's spectrum) has long been known to crosslink DNA and render viruses non-viable...its pretty common in research to use UV inactivated virus as a control.
This would be got in about 10 seconds work in pubmed. Use the keyword sunlight and virus and the first paper you pull out is Hernandez A, Marina CF, Valle J, Williams T. Persistence of invertebrate iridescent virus 6 in tropical artificial aquatic environments. Arch Virol. 2005 Jun 28; [Epub ahead of print]
Where they inactivate in sunlight because of the UV....
Add inactivation to the mix of keyword and you'll get a string of papers.
When it comes to virology this is a pretty basic piece of knowledge, so making a bald absolute statement like yours of saying science has no idea on X, Y or Z really doesn't inspire confidence when its actually incorrect.
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yansimon52 - 25 Jul 2005 12:09 GMT Its a well known fact to everyone that virus die when exposed to light or UV light, anyway its about light....
The question is..why light is more effective in eliminating viruses and not-so on bacterial?
> > let me ask you all a simple question on why 'virus die when exposed to > > light' even medical science has yet to come out with an answer..... [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > When playing rugby, its not the winning that counts, but the taking apart > ICQ: 5178568 Tim Fitzmaurice - 25 Jul 2005 12:48 GMT > Its a well known fact to everyone that virus die when exposed to light > or UV light, anyway its about light.... > > The question is..why light is more effective in eliminating viruses and > not-so on bacterial? Reasons that I can think of off the top of my head.....
1) Because it has to penetrate. A virus is at best a lipid membrane and a protein capsid between the outside compared to bacterial structures which include the cell wall etc etc. That physical barrier can absorb qwuite a bit....this scales up to normal cells...remember too much UV and skin cancer becomes more prevalent. Viruses are a couple of hundred nanometres across for the big ones, bacteria are much bigger.
This boils down to light is energy, and as photons of light hit a target they transfer that energy and when enough hits the physical chemstry occurs that makes the crosslink.
2) More DNA in bacteria....if X amount of UV light crosslinks in say 4 sites, there is more chance of that taking out an essential gene in a virus with a few hundred kilobases of DNA. Bacteria have more redundant genes, and so it takes alarger dose to take them out.
3) This is one I have to check up on but if I rememebr correctly bacteria are complex enough to include DNA repair enzymes that can do something about damaged DNA. Viruses generally are not complex enough to include that many genes and rely on the host cell to provide any such protection....which if they have been shed already is not there. Quick check in pubmed and yes, bacteria seem to have DNA repair mechanisms - here is a specific example of such genes
Tanaka M, Narumi I, Funayama T, Kikuchi M, Watanabe H, Matsunaga T, Nikaido O, Yamamoto K. Characterization of pathways dependent on the uvsE, uvrA1, or uvrA2 gene product for UV resistance in Deinococcus radiodurans. J Bacteriol. 2005 Jun;187(11):3693-7.
So the basic issue is viruses are simple organisms than bacteria, they are smaller too, both of which make them more vulnerable.
Tim -- When playing rugby, its not the winning that counts, but the taking apart ICQ: 5178568
yansimon52 - 25 Jul 2005 12:15 GMT The way you put it, you are some kind from the medical discipline...as such, let me ask you some more questions in regard to a human body and its formation or functioning....
Well, as far as medical science is concer, an organ is an organ each contributing to the functioning to the body system...quiet logical indeed.....
To a Holistic practitioner like myself, we look at a human body from a different angle such as, the 9 major organs, its functioning run parallel to the 9 orbital planets, in our Solar System...the human's heart run parallel to the Solar Sun and the purity sunlight run parallel to the purity blood system... do you get it?
yansimon52 - 25 Jul 2005 12:18 GMT The questions that I would like to ask is, why the human's heart is situated on the 'moonside' (leftside) of the body....the other question is...Why during nightfall, the human's blood circulation system tend to be more 'vigilant' in its circulation?
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