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How to 'contain' your herpes, the Holistic way..

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yansimon52 - 24 Jul 2005 15:01 GMT
The first step......is to apply some 'freshly burnt' ashes, covering
over the infected part.........

At the same time, avoid eating 'red meat'........

The next step...... is thru practising a certain type of meditation,
its purpose is to cleanse the sacred body system.........and your
herpese could be contained.........

The other method of totally wiping off those viruses hidden in your
body system is thru concumming a certain category of herbal soup,
derived from those 'unorthodox herbal' category.....Meaning..to treatr
an unorthodox diseas, one needs to treat with unorthodox herbs....
simple as that......
M2slo2cht@nospam.invalid - 24 Jul 2005 17:04 GMT
>The first step......is to apply some 'freshly burnt' ashes, covering
>over the infected part.........

PERL ?!?!? ................. izat you???   ;-)
Tom - 24 Jul 2005 20:29 GMT
I was almost thinking the same thing!!!  :o)

Actually I know that keeping your immune system healthy does good things for
keeping away herpes. This past month I was under alot of stress at work, and
not getting enough sleep, eating badly and not taking my vitamins, as a
result I have been having some bothersome outbreaks. I know when I am taking
better care of myself I get less outbreaks.

> >The first step......is to apply some 'freshly burnt' ashes, covering
> >over the infected part.........
>
> PERL ?!?!? ................. izat you???   ;-)
yansimon52 - 25 Jul 2005 01:18 GMT
Immune sytem is one thing, of course, it helps in a way, but, a virus
infection is a virus infection that those viruses would play 'havoc' to
your body system, from time to time....These viruses could hide and
even tend to attack 'joint areas' ie. over your knee, elbow or the
backside and so on.. Why?

Thi is the tricky part is, where it needs one who is able to understand
the 'modus operandi' of these viruses.....to 'arrest and contain' them
(viruses) ..Being able to do that, then, you are talking about having
these viruses to be contained (not totally eliminating them) and you
could have a normal life...without having problem from these viruse
outbreak every now and then..

Of course, the next step is, I am talking about applyinmg a certain
technic on how to slowly 'chase away' or to eliminate those viruses out
of your body system..........
Angela S. - 25 Jul 2005 01:19 GMT
Imagine how the people that do everything the "right way" feel when they
still get outbreaks.. lol

M2 you crack me up!

Speaking of cracks.. lol.. you should see what people are saying about HIV
and AIDS over on the STD Message Board. There are actually fools running
around on the net that believe that AIDS is a hoax and that HIV doesn't
cause AIDS at all.

Angela :)

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>I was almost thinking the same thing!!!  :o)
>
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>>
>> PERL ?!?!? ................. izat you???   ;-)
Perl Molson - 24 Jul 2005 21:45 GMT
> >The first step......is to apply some 'freshly burnt' ashes, covering
> >over the infected part.........
>
> PERL ?!?!? ................. izat you???   ;-)

No, dude, that's not me.

All I do is putting piece by piece thousand years old folk remedies
and fitting them together "under a new high-tech microscope".

Sonmetimes I have to bring my own creations, certain remedies, such as
the one
massaging the lymph and other organs situated around the trigeminal
ganglia, with a long and heavy stick, and other ones mentioned in the
past.

When I talk about remedies, I try to provide the reason WHY they work
and try to fit the explanations with a layman profile.

Yansimon52 does not give us any reasons as such.

Perl von Molson
Angela S. - 25 Jul 2005 01:17 GMT
Just when you think you've heard it all ... lol

Angela :)

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> The first step......is to apply some 'freshly burnt' ashes, covering
> over the infected part.........
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> an unorthodox diseas, one needs to treat with unorthodox herbs....
> simple as that......
yansimon52 - 25 Jul 2005 01:36 GMT
When aplying those ashes you normally, get this 'biting'
feeling..meaning, those viruses loathe the ashes that you were
applying..

Don't believe on what I am trying to say?

let me ask you all a simple question on why 'virus die when exposed to
light' even medical science has yet to come out with an answer.....

I am not saying that by applying those ashes could totally wipe off
your herpes viruse..what I am trying to say is, it helps to contain the
spreading...
yansimon52 - 25 Jul 2005 01:41 GMT
The other thing is, by using simple freshly burnt ashes is as much much
cheaper and more effective than those expensive medical cream but,
quite messy..

The most important thing is, the herpes outbreak must be contained and
healing (totally wiping off those herpes viruses in your body system)
is the next step one need to pursue..........
Perl Molson - 25 Jul 2005 04:27 GMT
> The other thing is, by using simple freshly burnt ashes is as much much
> cheaper and more effective than those expensive medical cream but,
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> healing (totally wiping off those herpes viruses in your body system)
> is the next step one need to pursue..........

Are you trying to flame this group?
Do I know you, by any chance?
Did you ask your permission from these people to
say your opinion or did I missed something?

Raise your hand first, then, if given approval, start talking, dude.
Until then, stay on a side, watch, read and learn.

Perl von Molson
Angela S. - 25 Jul 2005 05:41 GMT
Ya think!? lol

Ha Ha Ha Ha ~

Sorry but I just had to laugh a little bit after reading THAT.

Angela :)

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> The other thing is, by using simple freshly burnt ashes is as much much
> cheaper and more effective than those expensive medical cream but,
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> healing (totally wiping off those herpes viruses in your body system)
> is the next step one need to pursue..........
Angela S. - 25 Jul 2005 05:40 GMT
How are you going to put ashes inside of the sacral ganglia? lol

Angela :)

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> When aplying those ashes you normally, get this 'biting'
> feeling..meaning, those viruses loathe the ashes that you were
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> your herpes viruse..what I am trying to say is, it helps to contain the
> spreading...
Tim Fitzmaurice - 25 Jul 2005 11:05 GMT
> let me ask you all a simple question on why 'virus die when exposed to
> light' even medical science has yet to come out with an answer.....

Pardon??? UV light exposure (a component of the sun's spectrum) has long
been known to crosslink DNA and render viruses non-viable...its pretty
common in research to use UV inactivated virus as a control.

This would be got in about 10 seconds work in pubmed. Use the keyword
sunlight and virus and the first paper you pull out is
Hernandez A, Marina CF, Valle J, Williams T.
Persistence of invertebrate iridescent virus 6 in tropical artificial
aquatic environments.
Arch Virol. 2005 Jun 28; [Epub ahead of print]

Where they inactivate in sunlight because of the UV....

Add inactivation to the mix of keyword and you'll get a string of papers.

When it comes to virology this is a pretty basic piece of knowledge, so
making a bald absolute statement like yours of saying science has no idea
on X, Y or Z really doesn't inspire confidence when its actually
incorrect.

Tim
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yansimon52 - 25 Jul 2005 12:09 GMT
Its a well known fact to everyone that virus die when exposed to light
or UV light, anyway its about light....

The question is..why light is more effective in eliminating viruses and
not-so on bacterial?

> > let me ask you all a simple question on why 'virus die when exposed to
> > light' even medical science has yet to come out with an answer.....
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
> When playing rugby, its not the winning that counts, but the taking apart
> ICQ: 5178568
Tim Fitzmaurice - 25 Jul 2005 12:48 GMT
> Its a well known fact to everyone that virus die when exposed to light
> or UV light, anyway its about light....
>
> The question is..why light is more effective in eliminating viruses and
> not-so on bacterial?

Reasons that I can think of off the top of my head.....

1) Because it has to penetrate. A virus is at best a lipid
membrane and a protein capsid between the outside compared to bacterial
structures which include the cell wall etc etc. That physical barrier can
absorb qwuite a bit....this scales up to normal cells...remember too much
UV and skin cancer becomes more prevalent. Viruses are a couple of hundred
nanometres across for the big ones, bacteria are much bigger.

This boils down to light is energy, and as photons of light hit a target
they transfer that energy and when enough hits the physical chemstry
occurs that makes the crosslink.

2) More DNA in bacteria....if X amount of UV light crosslinks in say 4
sites, there is more chance of that taking out an essential gene in a
virus with a few hundred kilobases of DNA. Bacteria have more redundant
genes, and so it takes alarger  dose to take them out.

3) This is one I have to check up on but if I rememebr correctly bacteria
are complex enough to include DNA repair enzymes that can do something
about damaged DNA. Viruses generally are not complex enough to include
that many genes and rely on the host cell to provide any such
protection....which if they have been shed already is not there.
Quick check in pubmed and yes, bacteria seem to have DNA repair
mechanisms - here is a specific example of such genes

Tanaka M, Narumi I, Funayama T, Kikuchi M, Watanabe H, Matsunaga T,
Nikaido O, Yamamoto K.
Characterization of pathways dependent on the uvsE, uvrA1, or uvrA2 gene
product for UV resistance in Deinococcus radiodurans.
J Bacteriol. 2005 Jun;187(11):3693-7.

So the basic issue is viruses are simple organisms than bacteria, they are
smaller too, both of which make them more vulnerable.

Tim
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yansimon52 - 25 Jul 2005 12:15 GMT
The way you put it, you are some kind from the medical discipline...as
such, let me ask you some more questions in regard to a human body and
its formation or functioning....

Well, as far as medical science is concer, an organ is an organ each
contributing to the functioning to the body system...quiet logical
indeed.....

To a Holistic practitioner like myself, we look at a human body from a
different angle such as, the 9 major organs, its functioning run
parallel to the 9 orbital planets, in our Solar System...the human's
heart run parallel to the Solar Sun and the purity sunlight run
parallel to the purity blood system... do you get it?
yansimon52 - 25 Jul 2005 12:18 GMT
The questions that I would like to ask is, why the human's heart is
situated on the 'moonside' (leftside) of the body....the other question
is...Why during nightfall, the human's blood circulation system tend to
be more 'vigilant' in its circulation?
 
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