Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Herpes / June 2005
Genital Warts (HPV)
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Tom - 01 Jun 2005 23:27 GMT Hello All,
I know this is not a genital warts NG, but since I have genital warts and genital herpes and I am sure alot of others do as well, I thought I'd ask here. My past experiences with genital warts is that they don't hurt, burn or itch at all. Recently I had some smaller new ones on the genitals that formed in a cluster much like herpes. Usually the genital warts are large, cauliflower shaped and alone on the groin instead of a cluster of tiny ones right on the genitals. Well anyway, maybe its my imagination, but I have felt as if there is some burning sensations coming from the HPV, is this common? The second question I have is are there any oral medications like valtrex that are effective in slowing the spread if not stopping the spread of genital warts? Can it be removed by taking oral medications instead of using liquid nitrogen or laser?
Thanks, Tom
Angela S. - 02 Jun 2005 01:06 GMT > Well anyway, maybe its my imagination, but I have > felt as if there is some burning sensations coming from the HPV, is this > common? This is a common symptom of genital warts.
> The second question I have is are there any oral medications like > valtrex that are effective in slowing the spread if not stopping the > spread > of genital warts? No.
> Can it be removed by taking oral medications instead of > using liquid nitrogen or laser? No.
You might want to try the STD message board where there will be more people to help answer your questions. I'm also developing a Q and A at the top of the HPV forum. Here's the link to the STD Message Board:
http://www.yoshi2me.com/ipw-web/bulletin/bb/index.php
Hope this helps,
Angela :)
Tom - 02 Jun 2005 03:14 GMT Thanks for the link, I'll look at it. What I would also like to know is what are all of the symptoms associated with genital warts? The only reason I am wondering is so I know when something that I have is being caused by my herpes vs. my warts. I like to keep tabs on everything and monitor it.
Thanks, Tom
> > Well anyway, maybe its my imagination, but I have > > felt as if there is some burning sensations coming from the HPV, is this > > common? > > This is a common symptom of genital warts. Angela S. - 02 Jun 2005 07:32 GMT Check out the HPV faq I've been working on over on the STD message board. I am going to be adding to that information each day a little bit at a time.
Angela :)
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> Thanks for the link, I'll look at it. What I would also like to know is > what [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >> >> This is a common symptom of genital warts. Grant - 02 Jun 2005 13:12 GMT Here's something new I didn't know about a side-effect of treatment for the warts...Lichen Sclerosis. If I had known about this 20 years ago, I would have opted to keep the warts. :)
Apparently, the treatment (acid?) weakens the skin. And then years later, that skin may develop lichen schlerosis. Very painful. Very much a horrible thing.
I'm thrilled...
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Tim Fitzmaurice - 02 Jun 2005 15:32 GMT > valtrex that are effective in slowing the spread if not stopping the spread > of genital warts? Can it be removed by taking oral medications instead of > using liquid nitrogen or laser? Oral, no. Topical yes. There is a med called imiquimod, sold under the tradename of Aldara (if I remember correctly) that has been licensed a few years now and is an alternative to having -160 degree objects applied to yerself.
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Tom - 03 Jun 2005 23:36 GMT Okay well that's good I guess, but I think Aldara is the acid treatment that people say is painful to use. So far I had nitrogen and laser done on me. What about an OTC cream? Are there any that can at least stop the burning I get?
Another question is why is it that sometimes the warts are painless and sometimes they are very painful like herpes and burn and I even get tingling around the whole area like the backs of the thighs etc? Or could it be that I am having a herpes outbreak at the same time and think it is the warts causing the burning and tingling?
I'll tell you, I'm a mess...Genital Herpes and Genital Warts...two one of a kinds...this really sucks!
Tom
> Oral, no. Topical yes. There is a med called imiquimod, sold under the > tradename of Aldara (if I remember correctly) that has been licensed a > few years now and is an alternative to having -160 degree objects applied > to yerself. Anonymous - 04 Jun 2005 22:53 GMT > Okay well that's good I guess, but I think Aldara is the acid treatment that > people say is painful to use. So far I had nitrogen and laser done on me. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Tom Aldara is not acidic. It will cause an inflammatory response but this is due to it stimulating a natural immune response. I've been told that it's one of the best treatments out there for genital warts (best being 'natural', though it may be slower).
Tom - 05 Jun 2005 02:51 GMT Is it an antiviral like valtrex or zovirax or is it something else?
> Aldara is not acidic. It will cause an inflammatory response but this > is due to it stimulating a natural immune response. I've been told that > it's one of the best treatments out there for genital warts (best being > 'natural', though it may be slower). Anonymous - 05 Jun 2005 18:26 GMT > Is it an antiviral like valtrex or zovirax or is it something else? > >> Aldara is not acidic. It will cause an inflammatory response but this >> is due to it stimulating a natural immune response. I've been told that >> it's one of the best treatments out there for genital warts (best being >> 'natural', though it may be slower). http://www.3m.com/us/healthcare/pharma/aldara/consumers.jhtml
http://www.3m.com/us/healthcare/pharma/aldara/con_overview.jhtml#1
Angela S. - 05 Jun 2005 18:51 GMT No, because Valtrex, Famvir and Acyclovir are oral medications used to treat Herpes Simplex Virus. Aldara is a type of cream that you use to put on genital warts.
FYI ~ over on the STD Message Board in the HPV folder I have a list of all the different types of treatments available for genital warts. Take a look when you get the chance... I think it will give you a better idea of what your options are when it comes to treating the HPV that you can actually see.
Angela :)
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> Is it an antiviral like valtrex or zovirax or is it something else? > >> Aldara is not acidic. It will cause an inflammatory response but this >> is due to it stimulating a natural immune response. I've been told that >> it's one of the best treatments out there for genital warts (best being >> 'natural', though it may be slower). Tom - 05 Jun 2005 22:02 GMT Thank you Angela, I'll look into this, but I think there is something wrong with the password I used to sign into your message boards because it said my password for my tomboy83@yahoo.com was invalid. I tried to fill in the info to reset it and it didn't work. I looked at the link for Aldara, I might consider that for my genital warts. The genital herpes has calmed down some since this past winter. I think a good diet and vitamins will help me there.
Tom
> No, because Valtrex, Famvir and Acyclovir are oral medications used to treat > Herpes Simplex Virus. Aldara is a type of cream that you use to put on [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > >> it's one of the best treatments out there for genital warts (best being > >> 'natural', though it may be slower). Angela S. - 14 Jun 2005 17:14 GMT I did a search on the message board using the e-mail address that you supplied me with and there was no match. You must have signed up under a different e-mail address. What screen name did you create on the board and I'll see if I can figure out which e-mail address that was to so we can refresh your memory.
Angela :)
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> Thank you Angela, I'll look into this, but I think there is something > wrong [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Tom Tom - 16 Jun 2005 04:54 GMT I don't even remember now, I should have written it down. I will have to re sign up. Right now my herpes is much of a problem than my hpv. I guess the hpv started up and then herpes really got going. Another big outbreak...again!
> I did a search on the message board using the e-mail address that you > supplied me with and there was no match. You must have signed up under a [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > > > Tom Anonymous - 16 Jun 2005 05:09 GMT Me too (with the giant herpes outbreak). Mine is having a horrible time. Trying to get as much sleep and be good with the diet, but this one's a tough one.
> I don't even remember now, I should have written it down. I will have to re > sign up. Right now my herpes is much of a problem than my hpv. I guess the [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] >>> >>> Tom Tom - 17 Jun 2005 03:04 GMT I know what you mean. I have had the outbreak from hell. Burning, sore and tingling like anything...
> Me too (with the giant herpes outbreak). Mine is having a horrible > time. Trying to get as much sleep and be good with the diet, but this > one's a tough one. Anonymous - 17 Jun 2005 04:02 GMT > I know what you mean. I have had the outbreak from hell. Burning, sore and > tingling like anything... > >> Me too (with the giant herpes outbreak). Mine is having a horrible >> time. Trying to get as much sleep and be good with the diet, but this >> one's a tough one. Hang in there. I'm not sure which is worse: the constant itching on my tailbone or the painful cracks where my thighs move.
We'll get through this one, but it's gonna be suck-tastic.
Tom - 17 Jun 2005 04:57 GMT I have small painful bumps and then they turn into these round open circle shaped sores that look like a puncture, when the bump disappears. Mine are on the tip and head of the penis and also on the underside of the penis. To make matters worse, I think the herpes seems to have spread to my anal area and now I keep getting itching in the anus, and I never have anal sex, so I don't understand that!
> > I know what you mean. I have had the outbreak from hell. Burning, sore and > > tingling like anything... [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > We'll get through this one, but it's gonna be suck-tastic. Anonymous - 17 Jun 2005 05:14 GMT > I have small painful bumps and then they turn into these round open circle > shaped sores that look like a puncture, when the bump disappears. Mine are [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >> >> We'll get through this one, but it's gonna be suck-tastic. "HSV 2 usually establishes latency in the sacral ganglion, a collection of nerves found at the lower base of the spine. HSV-2 recurring outbreaks will generally occur in the genital region."
Source: http://herpesonline.org/hsv1vs2.html
So it's no surprise that it goes to the middle of the tailbone (although, my primary and secondary outbreaks didn't have it there, and I've always wondered whether I did something to auto-inoculate myself, or if the virus just took time to get there, or, lastly, whether my immune system has always just been weakened since getting herpes).
Tom, you have Valtrex, right? Don't forget to take it during prodrome (tingling phase). I was on a trip and didn't bring my meds, so 3-4 days later I had a full, nasty outbreak.
Again, we're here for support. Keep the area dry--I use Johnson's baby powder with zinc (it's called Medicated).
And, lastly, keep hope up--there are real-world clinical trials of therapeutic vaccines and new, better creams (Cytogenix) that will help us hopefully longer-term and with less medication than daily Valtrex.
Angela S. - 17 Jun 2005 06:35 GMT If you do happen to think of it ~ let me know and we can get it straightened out.
Angela :)
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>I don't even remember now, I should have written it down. I will have to re > sign up. Right now my herpes is much of a problem than my hpv. I guess the > hpv started up and then herpes really got going. Another big > outbreak...again! Tom - 18 Jun 2005 02:30 GMT Okay, I cannot remember what I called the password, so I'll just create a new sign on. Thanks,
> If you do happen to think of it ~ let me know and we can get it straightened > out. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > hpv started up and then herpes really got going. Another big > > outbreak...again!
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