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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Herpes / April 2005can genital herpes cause chapped lips?
Since this outbreak has been going on I noticed some dry skin on the backs of my hands and also very chapped lips that are burning and tingling sometimes and I use chap stick on them, but it hasn't been helping really. I don't see any cold on my lips, but I do occasionally get hive like things right next to my lips and the outer borders of my lips has this pink looking swollen skin area. Any ideas? Thanks, Tom >Since this outbreak has been going on I noticed some dry skin on the backs >of my hands and also very chapped lips that are burning and tingling >sometimes and I use chap stick on them, but it hasn't been helping really. I >don't see any cold on my lips, but I do occasionally get hive like things >right next to my lips and the outer borders of my lips has this pink looking >swollen skin area. Any ideas? >Thanks, >Tom Genital herpes can't cause chapped lips (except possibly in a very roundabout way that might be entirely peculiar to your personal circumstances) , but oral herpes can. Or it could be something else. Documented cases of oral HSV2 are said to occur either never or very rarely. With all the other luck you're having, maybe you're having that, too. I continue to think that one of the prescribed anti-viral meds are your best bet. Take care, Mike I am seeing my doctor in a little over a week, so I am going to ask him for antiviral meds believe me! I do feel considerably better, but still achy and run down feeling, so even if I don't take them all the time, I could take them when I feel another outbreak coming, but we'll see what the doctor says. Maybe I do have both but never really got cold sores, just the tingling chapped lips and the swollen outer edge...at this point I am disgusted, and very anxious to go to the doctor and tell him the whole story. I'll keep you all posted. Tom > >Since this outbreak has been going on I noticed some dry skin on the backs > >of my hands and also very chapped lips that are burning and tingling [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > Mike Hi Tom, I think you have an oral infection as well. You have type 1, right? It is very likely that you have both a genital infection and an oral infection. ar >I am seeing my doctor in a little over a week, so I am going to ask him for >antiviral meds believe me! I do feel considerably better, but still achy and [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] >> >> Mike Yes as far as I know, only because the test showed the 0845 level next to IGG HSV1. I know just about all the symptoms are genital although I do get red, chapped lips alot and sometimes accompanied with hives and swelling around the lips, but not actual cold sores. Maybe I have oral and genital herpes, I guess that's logical. Can a person with oral herpes just get mild symptoms and not really cold sores, just as a person can get mild blisters in the genital area? > Hi Tom, > [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > >> > >> Mike > Yes as far as I know, only because the test showed the 0845 level next to > IGG HSV1. I know just about all the symptoms are genital although I do get [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > symptoms and not really cold sores, just as a person can get mild blisters > in the genital area? I know exactly what are you talking about, I have experienced the same thing before; a cracked lip, with no follow-up as blisters or other herpes related. It is quite intriguing to try to establish the nature of such a skin symptom. Normally, a herpes outbreak, in special for a person that seems to suffer from chronic outbreaks (often such as once monthly or so) it would not happen that herpes to retreat and heal without blister formation or such. In my particular case, I do not fully develop anymore blisters and related due to the very fact that, like in a case like yours, a cracked lip, I would use one of my remedies and the crack would never further develop and the skin would "retreat" into a complete or so "self-seal". In conclusion, I really cannot say at this time wether or not a crack of the lip is caused by herpes or it is not. Important would be, if you can get to a point where (such as in my case) the only thing you'll get would be a cracked lip and without any other follow-up. I currently trying to solve even this very problem of cracked lip; I suspect it may be related with the metabolism and it may be improved if not cured through a more apropriate diet. I have increased the ammount of tropical fruits in my diet but I seem to be a little sensitive about them, it kind of gives me ocassional stomac aches ( I have no idea why, maybe some are too acidic, like pineapple?) It would be quite nice to be able to understand all these processes that allow the lips to become cracked. Of course, the related question would be: Well, if there is a metabolism or so problem that have caused the lip to crack, why no other area of our body has the same very problem? Is it just because the lip has been previously stressed over a long period of time by the virus and it has lost its elasticity of such properties as it should normally have? Perl von Molson > > Hi Tom, > > [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] > > >> > > >> Mike Well I don't really get to the point of a cracked lip. What happens occasionally is that my lips get chapped, dry and burn and feel itchy and tingly and then I get this pink swollen border around the top and bottom of the lips and also some occasional pimple or hives that are right near the lips, but not actual blisters on the lips. I guess it is possible it is related only because my body seems to handle genital herpes differently anyway. I get 3-4 reddish small patches of skin with ONE blister in each one only and that's on the inner thigh area, and then in the back area near the buttocks they look more like hives or bumps that turn into sores later. Its funny also how two areas of the body (around and in the buttocks vs. the front inner thighs) can have different responses in terms of genital herpes. I guess since my outbreaks in the past were mild, it is safe to say anything oral I may have would be mild also. The buttock sores have been recurrent for 7 years, but the ones on the inner thighs are a first time from this past monster OB. > Of course, the related question would be: > Well, if there is a metabolism or so problem that have caused the [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Perl von Molson > Well I don't really get to the point of a cracked lip. What happens > occasionally is that my lips get chapped, dry and burn and feel itchy and [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > for 7 years, but the ones on the inner thighs are a first time from this > past monster OB. To my understanding of the herpes virus, a picture that looks very similar to an outbreak would be like this: http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/imagepages/2161.htm All the other forms of blisters, vesicles, bumps, etc may be acne, cuts and cracks or other skin related problems. Herpes simplex may be a contributor to such skin problems but indirectly, due to a stressed skin. Time will tell wether the cuts that you see, Tom, (that you consider to be the remission of a herpes outbreak, if I may call it in this way), is a result of a direct herpes activity or not. Because, believe me, if you suffer from some chronic outbreaks, you will eventually find out sooner or later, as I did so, before. Nonetheless, after a couple of years of herpes viral activity(just to give you a time line) , the skin, as I've said before, may become susceptible to such cuts and cracks even without actual viral activity. Perl von Molson > > Of course, the related question would be: > > Well, if there is a metabolism or so problem that have caused the [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > > > Perl von Molson Hi Tom, Everyone's body handles herpes in a different way. There are people here who have oral outbreaks that don't look anything like what a cold sore looks like. I have sometimes gotten a very painful and itchy, teeny, tiny, miniscule bump on the edge of my lip. I think this has happened three times, perhaps? I believe it to be an oral outbreak. But, the only way to know if what you are having is a herpes outbreak or not, is to see a doctor the minute it begins so the doctor can culture the bump, crack, split, sore, etc. ar Well I also know that herpes affects everyone differently, and knowing that I have had the outbreaks that I have been getting in the back area for 7-8 years (4-5 times a year), tells me that it is definitely viral and most likely a result of the genital HSV1 that showed up in the test. What ever is coming out all of a sudden in the front may or may not be herpes, even though it looks more like the classic blisters, the only weird thing is that it doesn't get sore, just a little achy and pinchy. On the other hand, what has been going on in the back area doesn't look like the classic blisters, but gets very sore and burning once the bumps break open. If I have another outbreak in the front with the blisters, then I'll know if it is herpes also that was in remission or something, we'll see. > To my understanding of the herpes virus, > a picture that looks very similar to an outbreak would be like this: [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Herpes simplex may be a contributor to such skin problems but > indirectly, due to a stressed skin. > Well I also know that herpes affects everyone differently, and knowing that > I have had the outbreaks that I have been getting in the back area for 7-8 [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > If I have another outbreak in the front with the blisters, then I'll know if > it is herpes also that was in remission or something, we'll see. Tom, the bottom line is, if you have herpes you'll definitelly know it sooner or later; that is because if you would've been bothered with it in the first place, that would've meant that your herpes outbreaks were unnoticeable which is not the case as you keep reminding us.' Then why so many worries? You have it, deal with it. Again, the fact that you seem to have dry skin, may be related indirectly with herpes; I cannot specifically explain why that may happen but I would consider trying to deal with the dryness of my skin (actually I do have the same problem at times, that is dry skin). One thing I can tell you that by using some of the treatments I've used will do: I've never gotten in years tingling and all those symptoms that most people get during a prodrome. The fact that I don't have a problem any longer with herpes as I used to do 3 years ago, is due to some complex factors that I've dealt with all along this time. Herpes, indeed, seem to be a very complex disease, from different aspects, the virus itself and its way of activity and the treatments as well. It takes time and patience to understand what's going on into your body, how the virus affects your body. Perl von Molson > > To my understanding of the herpes virus, > > a picture that looks very similar to an outbreak would be like this: [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Herpes simplex may be a contributor to such skin problems but > > indirectly, due to a stressed skin. I'm just mad that I have this, because I still cant figure out who gave it to me. I have an idea it was my ex girlfriend, but I'm not 100% sure. Then I'm wondering if I got it from kissing someone and accidentally spread it to my privates myself, or was it from sex. I feel like it is going to take away my chances for getting into a good relationship. Now I have to tell everyone I meet about this. I just feel like its not fair that's all. It was bad enough when I learned I had HPV back in my early thirties, now this... I told a girl I know about that I have herpes and she seemed okay with it at first and then later told me that she doesn't want to be intimate with me because she doesn't want to get it. Its just not going to be easy... > if you would've been bothered with it in the first place, that > would've meant that your herpes outbreaks were unnoticeable which is > not the case as you keep reminding us.' > > Then why so many worries? > You have it, deal with it. My advice to you, Tom, is to stop trying to figure out who gave it to you. There are so many options, you can drive yourself crazy trying to figure it all out. Having herpes sucks. But as I'm learning, it is not the worst disease you could have. Surprise! There are much worse. Take care, ar >I'm just mad that I have this, because I still cant figure out who gave it >to me. I have an idea it was my ex girlfriend, but I'm not 100% sure. Then [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >> Then why so many worries? >> You have it, deal with it. Thanks for the hopeful words, but this is now my 4th virus that I will have for life. I have the remnants of Herpes Varicella Zoster from when I was a kid. I have the Herpes Epstein Barr Virus from when I was 27, I have genital hpv from when I was about 32, and somewhere around that age and now I developed Genital Herpes Simplex. At least only 2 are contagious I think. > My advice to you, Tom, is to stop trying to figure out who gave it to you. > There are so many options, you can drive yourself crazy trying to figure it all [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Take care, > ar Sorry, Tom, you are still in better shape than I am. Since we are going to play this game: :) Herpes 1 (so does most of the population) HPV (so does most of the population and since I'm female I have a higher risk of cancer because of it...unlike you) Epstein Barr (so does most of the population) Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome (Look it up, it sucks) Thyroid disease (No matter how hard I diet and exercise, I will always have extra weight) Lichen Sclerosis - This one is terrible. I'd rather have herpes than this. Of course, I have both. I would say, this has got to be 20 times worse than herpes. The pain is worse. The cancer risk is there. There is no treatment. No pills to take. No break from the pain. It just continues forever. There are some treatments for symptoms, but that's about it. The point I'm making is that it all seems rather overwhelming right now - especially when you are in the middle of some really bad outbreaks. But I want you to know that it is not the end of the world. Believe me, it is NOT the end of the world. I have never thought the worst of my lot in life during my herpes years - oh, got it from my first lover so have never known any sexual freedom. But this last diagnosis of lichen sclerosis has just about ended my ability to think about relationships again. Talk about wanting to curl up and just go away. But, as I did with all my other diseases, I will survive it and I will treat myself every day for the rest of my life and I will continue to live with it. Oh joy. Take care, ar >Thanks for the hopeful words, but this is now my 4th virus that I will have >for life. I have the remnants of Herpes Varicella Zoster from when I was a [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >> Take care, >> ar I am sorry to hear about all your illnesses, I probably have others that I don't even know about. Then of course I am extremely nearsighted, but that's not that bad as long as I wear my contacts. I am no toothpick myself, and always have a few extra lbs on me, but I don't know if I have a thyroid problem. I do have mile arthritis, but that's common I suppose. I guess I'll just have to come to an understanding with it, and will be talking to my doctor in the very near future about taking valtrex. I'll keep you all posted. Tom > Sorry, Tom, you are still in better shape than I am. Since we are going to play > this game: :) [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > >> Take care, > >> ar Hi Tom, I had a wacky astigmatism that made it impossible for me to wear contacts. I ended up having lasik surgery. What a trip that was! I love not wearing glasses. But I can't believe I took such a chance with my eyes!! Take care, ar >I am sorry to hear about all your illnesses, I probably have others that I >don't even know about. Then of course I am extremely nearsighted, but that's [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >Tom Ar, did you consider trying practicing therapeutic yoga exercises? There are specific exercises for most health problems. With the help of yoga you may revitalise your body's organs and glands including the tyroid and all the rest of them. Perl von Molson > Sorry, Tom, you are still in better shape than I am. Since we are going to play > this game: :) [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] > >> Take care, > >> ar Hi Perl, Yoga is very dangerous for me. I'm not able to do yoga. ar >Ar, did you consider trying practicing therapeutic yoga exercises? >There are specific exercises for most health problems. >With the help of yoga you may revitalise your body's organs >and glands including the tyroid and all the rest of them. > >Perl von Molson > Hi Perl, > > Yoga is very dangerous for me. I'm not able to do yoga. > > ar I understand; that's unfortunate for you. I still have doubts that it would be "very dangerous" in your case, but you must know it better. You may want to elaborate in here, if you feel comfortable doing it. If not, forget about it. Hopefully other approaches will work out for you. Perl von Molson > >Ar, did you consider trying practicing therapeutic yoga exercises? > >There are specific exercises for most health problems. > >With the help of yoga you may revitalise your body's organs > >and glands including the tyroid and all the rest of them. > > > >Perl von Molson Hi Perl, As I've mentioned before, I have a connective tissue disease which means that anytime the soft tissue is stretched, I get injured. No yoga. I prefer pilates - although I generally tend to dislocate a shoulder or two doing that as well. But I feel more stable with pilates than yoga. ar >> Hi Perl, >> [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] >> > >> >Perl von Molson > Hi Perl, > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > ar Yeah, well, I've meant something like yoga, that includes pilates. Hopefully it will work for you, I find yoga to be the best thing I can do to improve or maintain the health of my skin. In your case, Ar, it seems a bit more delicate to deal with several problems that I personally have no knowledge of. Connective tissue disease; glucosamine and chondroitin supplements, doesn't work on this problem? Perl von Molson > >> Hi Perl, > >> [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > >> > > >> >Perl von Molson >Yeah, well, I've meant something like yoga, that includes pilates. >Hopefully it will work for you, [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >Perl von Molson It seems to be a collagen disease. I know from past experience that supplements do not do any good for me so I no longer waste my money on them. For me, the best thing is always good old fashioned exercise and diet. ar |
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