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user@domain.invalid - 27 Mar 2005 08:31 GMT
Reading this Excel spreadsheet fills me with a world of hope:

http://www.racoon.com/herpes/chart/chart5.xls
SweptUnder - 28 Mar 2005 18:26 GMT
Wish I could say the same...but unfortunately, I can't say I get excited
anymore when I read about the newest "finds" for herpes.  I mean they've
found tons of stuff that will kill or eliminate herpes in vitro, but get
it in the body, and nothing.  In addition, it's a bit disheartening
knowing that the newest "discoveries" would still take a minimum of 8
years to get through all the FDA testing.  In addition, I can't see the
big companies actually "wanting" a cure discovered when they've got the
perfect moneymaker in the form of daily suppressives.  Not trying to be a
downer here, but just my thoughts after months of getting excited by the
latest developments I'd read about HSV treatment.
Angela S. - 29 Mar 2005 14:49 GMT
Would you rather there be no developments at all?

Angela :)

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> Wish I could say the same...but unfortunately, I can't say I get excited
> anymore when I read about the newest "finds" for herpes.  I mean they've
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> downer here, but just my thoughts after months of getting excited by the
> latest developments I'd read about HSV treatment.
SweptUnder - 29 Mar 2005 18:56 GMT
Of course we need developments.  That's not the point at all...and yes we
all need hope that something will come along to help us.  I just think
that guarded optimism is the better course of action with H...I've seen
too many posts on different message boards where people read about some
development and claim "Cure for Herpes found!"  When in reality this
disease has been with mankind for thousands of years and is still puzzling
scientists as to why it works the way it does.  I appreciate people being
optimistic, I'm just saying let's be realistic as well and not take any
company's press release as fact that a cure is simply "right around the
corner" as so many like to imply.  
Angela S. - 30 Mar 2005 14:31 GMT
I also feel that people should be more content with who they are and what
they have and realize that having herpes is totally manageable and not  the
end of the world. That's pretty realistic if you stop and think about this..
What blows me away is people that have had herpes for quite some time that
choose to be discontent at all times and have never learned to relax.

Angela ;-)

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SweptUnder - 30 Mar 2005 17:38 GMT
But why should it blow you away?  We're all psychologically different
individuals, and so are our coping mechanisms.  That's great that some can
get past this very quickly and move on, but it shouldn't be considered a
deficiency if others take more time to come to terms with it or have a
more difficult go of it.  I mean who knows, maybe they'll be able to
attribute that to various neurotransmitters at some point in the future.
We could say that people who suffer from depression are simply choosing
not to be happy with their lot in life...which may be true to an extent,
but at the same time, there are certainly individuals who have chemical
imbalances and in which SSRI's show pretty good efficacy.  In addition,
some don't suffer just the simple "nuisances" associated with herpes
symptoms, but have rather severe outbreaks, neurological symptoms, or have
continuous outbreaks predominate over the actual periods of normalcy.  In
those cases, it's not really a matter of choosing to be discontent, if
there are constant reminders or physical restraints imposing upon the
routines of life.
Angela S. - 30 Mar 2005 22:29 GMT
Hopefully those individuals are able to recognize the problem and seek
treatment so they can get on with their lives..

Angela ;-)

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> But why should it blow you away?  We're all psychologically different
> individuals, and so are our coping mechanisms.  That's great that some can
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> there are constant reminders or physical restraints imposing upon the
> routines of life.
Anonymous - 09 Apr 2005 22:45 GMT
> Wish I could say the same...but unfortunately, I can't say I get excited
> anymore when I read about the newest "finds" for herpes.  I mean they've
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> downer here, but just my thoughts after months of getting excited by the
> latest developments I'd read about HSV treatment.

The latest finds are very encouraging: I've confirmed via email that a
recent Chiron's vaccine candidate, while not reducing transmission or
frequency, helped greatly with extent and duration of the outbreaks.
This is in HUMANS, not lab rats, and not test tubes.

The other vaccine candidate seems even better: Harvard's elicits a
greater immune response than all other vaccine candidates (granted,
those didn't have a huge effect).

PowderMed and Antigenics look the most promising, but Cytogenix's
anti-herpes cream has sound clinical data so far as a topical treatment.

The bottom line is, while there probably won't be a cure for a long
while, there will be shorter and more powerful treatments (probably
cheaper as well) than taking 500MG/1G of Valtrex or acyclovir daily.
Angela S. - 29 Mar 2005 14:47 GMT
That's a great spread sheet - isn't it?

Angela :-)

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> Reading this Excel spreadsheet fills me with a world of hope:
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> http://www.racoon.com/herpes/chart/chart5.xls 
 
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