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Tom - 05 Mar 2005 00:44 GMT

While I'm waiting for my second round of tests, I noticed more blisters,
some on the buttocks and one small lone blister in the front area. I started
thinking about buying antivirals. I saw this site called
www.usamedsonline.com and I was noticing the low prices of acyclovir, but
was also noticing that it seems like you can buy prescription drugs without
a prescription? Is this possible? Is it legal??? I never heard of this, but
maybe I am out of the loop. If anyone has tried this or knows about it,
please let me know. I saw where it says that its violating a law to buy from
a Canadian pharmacy, if you are in the US, but then why does it list stated
and the country in the area where you order?

Thanks,

Tom

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M.L.S. - 05 Mar 2005 01:46 GMT

>While I'm waiting for my second round of tests, I noticed more blisters,
>some on the buttocks and one small lone blister in the front area. I started
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>a Canadian pharmacy, if you are in the US, but then why does it list stated
>and the country in the area where you order?

Hi Tom,

The prices at that link don't look too bad, but go to...

http://www.racoon.com/herpes/

and check out the "Treatment" section there. There are a couple
other links to online drug sellers there.

I have never tried to order prescription drugs online, so I don't
know exactly how it works, but theoretically you do need a
prescription. I don't know if there is a mechanism for verifying
with your doctor or what, but I wouldn't order from a place that
didn't have a phone number with live people on the end of it, people
who could answer the very questions you ask.

I have to think that these few places refered to here are legal, or
they wouldn't long be in business. I'm sure that you can find
places on the net where the rules aren't scrupulously followed, but
then someone willing to cheat in one area might be more open to
cheating in another, if you catch my drift.

I think the link you gave is to a USA company, and their blurb about
"Canadian pharmacy" is just trying to *convince* people to order
from USA Meds Online, instead of a lower priced Canadian online
house. I was confused about that, too, the first time I read it.

If you order a minimum amount of drugs from Canada you might not get
caught, but then, you never know. Technically, that IS illegal, and
probably won't save you that much money in the case of Acyclovir,
anyway, so, it may not be an issue.

Hope that helps,

Mike

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user@domain.invalid - 05 Mar 2005 02:39 GMT

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> I think the link you gave is to a USA company, and their blurb about
> "Canadian pharmacy" is just trying to *convince* people to order
> from USA Meds Online, instead of a lower priced Canadian online
> house. I was confused about that, too, the first time I read it.

Interesting:

Registrant:
Pangea Investments, LLP
3055 Rodenbeck Dr
Suite 4A
Beavercreek, Ohio 45432
United States

Registered through: GoDaddy.com
Domain Name: USAMEDSONLINE.COM
Created on: 22-Oct-04
Expires on: 22-Oct-05
Last Updated on: 23-Oct-04

Administrative Contact:
Parsons, Greg customercare@usamedsonline.com
Pangea Investments, LLP
3055 Rodenbeck Dr
Suite 4A
Beavercreek, Ohio 45432
United States
4169101456 Fax --
Technical Contact:
Parsons, Greg customercare@usamedsonline.com
Pangea Investments, LLP
3055 Rodenbeck Dr
Suite 4A
Beavercreek, Ohio 45432
United States
4169101456 Fax --

Domain servers in listed order:
UDNS1.ULTRADNS.NET
UDNS2.ULTRADNS.NET

But their hosting is based out of Toronto, Canada -- looks fishy, but
who knows:
Tracing route to www.usamedsonline.com [66.207.212.146]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 95 ms 2 ms 3 ms 192.168.2.1
2 13 ms 14 ms 40 ms
wbar1.sea1-4-5-240-001.sea1.elnk.dsl.genuity.net
[4.5.240.1]
3 14 ms 14 ms 14 ms 4.9.10.129
4 47 ms 14 ms 12 ms ae-1-53.bbr1.Chicago1.Level3.net
[4.68.101.65]
5 46 ms 14 ms 13 ms so-6-0-0.edge1.Chicago1.Level3.net
[209.244.8.10
]
6 13 ms 13 ms 14 ms 65.59.88.194
7 27 ms 29 ms 60 ms if-4-0.core3.CQW-Chicago.teleglobe.net
[66.110.2
7.78]
8 26 ms 26 ms 26 ms if-8-0.core2.CQW-Chicago.Teleglobe.net
[207.45.2
23.214]
9 53 ms 26 ms 26 ms
if-9-0.core2.TTT-Scarborough.Teleglobe.net [207.
45.222.181]
10 48 ms 27 ms 25 ms if-5-0.core1.TNK-Toronto.Teleglobe.net
[207.45.1
98.10]
11 26 ms 24 ms 25 ms Vlan2.msfc1.TNK-Toronto.Teleglobe.net
[64.86.81.
5]
12 38 ms 37 ms 37 ms Vlan155.msfc1.TNK-Toronto.Teleglobe.net
[64.86.6
3.182]
13 40 ms 39 ms 40 ms srp-2-0-0-dist1.tor1.beanfield.net
[66.207.209.1
0]
14 138 ms 40 ms 40 ms 66.207.212.146

Trace complete.

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M.L.S. - 05 Mar 2005 03:12 GMT

><snip>

>> I think the link you gave is to a USA company, and their blurb about
>> "Canadian pharmacy" is just trying to *convince* people to order
>> from USA Meds Online, instead of a lower priced Canadian online
>> house. I was confused about that, too, the first time I read it.

>Interesting:

<snip>

>But their hosting is based out of Toronto, Canada -- looks fishy, but
>who knows:

Hmm, yep. I didn't think to look the numbers up, but that's one way
of checking, innit?

I gotta hit the hay right now, but will think better on it,
tomorrow.

Nice work!

Mike

>Tracing route to www.usamedsonline.com [66.207.212.146]
>over a maximum of 30 hops:
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>0]
> 14 138 ms 40 ms 40 ms 66.207.212.146

>Trace complete.

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user@domain.invalid - 05 Mar 2005 02:39 GMT

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Tom - 05 Mar 2005 04:33 GMT

I see what you mean, but I was looking around and found this other link:
http://www.herpes-medicine.com and this one seems to be in the US and just
says something about a doctor having to referred you, but nothing about a
prescription. The thing I noticed is that it says you need someone to sign
for the package. What happens if you are working and there's no one at home?
Do they send it to a pickup place for FedEx and then you pickup the package?
I tested the order functions and couldn't get it to work in IE so I tried
Netscape and it worked okay.

Tom

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M2slo2cht@nospam.invalid - 05 Mar 2005 04:44 GMT

>I have never tried to order prescription drugs online

I have.
It works the same as the corner drugstore.
Doc asks you which pharmacy you use, you can give him a print out with
the name and phone number (an 800 number) to call and he calls the
prescription in like any other pharmacy.
Then you ring 'em up with your order and a credit card number and they
drop it in the mail to you. At least, thats the way I order (phone).
If I recall correctly, you can also order through their website after
the doc has called in the perscription. That'd be just as easy, if you
don't mind transfering your credit card data over the internet.
I've used Drugplace.com with no problems.

>theoretically you do need a
>prescription. I don't know if there is a mechanism for verifying
>with your doctor or what, but I wouldn't order from a place that
>didn't have a phone number with live people on the end of it,

Exactly.
At the other end of the 800 line (Drugplace.com) there's a real live
and helpful person, just like at the corner store.
I can only vouch for the one online pharmacy that I've used but I'm
sure there must be others. Btw, I've no affiliation other than being a
satisfied customer.

M2

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Tim Fitzmaurice - 09 Mar 2005 11:21 GMT

> maybe I am out of the loop. If anyone has tried this or knows about it,
> please let me know. I saw where it says that its violating a law to buy from
> a Canadian pharmacy, if you are in the US, but then why does it list stated
> and the country in the area where you order?

They are mildly unpopular here in the UK as the system generally tries to
prevent huge prescription forging by getting doctors to produce written
format prescription forms and get them filled out locally so the
pharmacists recognised the forms....now it is generally printout and
signature but the same seems to apply.

Any online phamracy in the UK supplying UK people is required to see that
form and would have to put a fair amount of checking procedure in place to
calm that aspect.

I did once have to get a prescription filled halfway down a motorway (had
a GP apoointment just before I travelled across the country) and they DID
query it because it wasnt local...and ended up phoning through to check
the form was genuine.

However, you cross national boundaries and you will probably end up right
in it.....the UK requires both sides to be licensed for supply of medicine
for anything to cross the national boundary legally , only a UK licensed
pharmacist can supply to a person in the country IIRC, andthe
prescription has to come from a doc licensed ot practise in the country -
barring the standard exception of you bringing in personal supplies of
drugs on your person that were prescribed for you legally in the country
of origin.

I assume that the UK a streamlining system in place to account for our
different legislative regions (ie England and Wales, plus Scotland, plus
Nothern Ireland, plus Isle of Man and also the Channel Islands) and there
may be a set of exclusions/addtrions for dealing with the European Union
as well but Im not sure what exists there.

Tim
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