> The infection with the Herpes Simplex Virus, wether
> in a mild form or chronic form,
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> lack or functionality of other organs such as liver, skin, kidneys
> directly related to the herpes infection.
For those newbies that are reading this thread... I just wanted to tell you
that herpes simplex virus has absolutely NOTHING to do with your liver or
kidneys. The skin in the oral or genital area perhaps... but not the liver
or kidneys. There is herpetic whitlow which would include the skin on the
hands along with herpes gladiatorum which would include the skin on the legs
or thighs. (more common among wrestlers)
> I recall when 2 years ago, if I would've eaten a fistfull of peanuts
> that would've meaant a sure herpes outbreak.
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> other high in arginine
> content, foods.
The reason Perl can eat all these foods is because the entire arginine
theory is just that... a theory. Watching what you eat from a healthy
standpoint is good for your body. If you are avoiding foods that are good
for you because you don't want to have a herpes outbreak... well just know
that it's not always going to work. There is no documented proof that
supports the foods high in arginine theory.
> Getting rid of the asymptomatic shedding was, however one most
> important
> thing to do when treating(I don't want to stir any reactions from folks
> in here by
> calling it cure) my herpes.
That's right... because there is no way to wipe out the virus from your
body. If there was a way... we would not all be posting here any longer.
> How I did this? By using 2 things: one was an antiseptic spray
> containing Benzalchonium Chloride, the other one was using cotton swabs
> deepened into
> an ethanol 96% with Melissa and also wit Hypericum Perforatum
> tinctures.
These are over the counter products that are being used by others with the
hopes of treating the symptoms of a herpes outbreak. This is more about pain
control than it is about reducing asymptomatic shedding. The only thing that
has been proven to reduce asymptomatic shedding considerably is suppressive
therapy with Valtrex, Famvir or Acyclovir. No other studies have been done
that proves asymptomatic shedding or outbreaks can be reduced for that
matter on anything other than the proven antiviral medications for Herpes
Simplex Virus.
> That's it; the rest of the treatments were just adiacent, not relevant.
> Oils, homeopathic pills (such as Arsenicum Album) might have add their
> contributions but I must deny it for now since I do not have any
> reason to believe it (that is, I still have gotten herpes outbreaks
> even after using these things).
You've had outbreaks using these things because they aren't substances that
have been proven to be able to treat herpes simplex virus the way the the
proven antivirals do.
> I can assure anyone, due to my research, that the stress has nothing to
> do
> with the herpes outbreaks.
Stress can have a lot to do with outbreaks so it's not right for you to say
that there is no correlation.
> I just want to add, though, that for those of you having allergies or
> sensitivity to
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> with the hight ammount of toxins resulted from all these gluten
> related.
:: sigh ::
> Perl von Molson
>
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> traces" but please, you are like spamming this group with all those
> topics.
Yes Perl... whatever you say Perl... lol
Angela :)

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Perl Molson - 15 Feb 2005 00:23 GMT
> > The infection with the Herpes Simplex Virus, wether
> > in a mild form or chronic form,
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> The reason Perl can eat all these foods is because the entire arginine
> theory is just that... a theory. Watching what you eat from a healthy
> standpoint is good for your body. If you are avoiding foods that are good
> for you because you don't want to have a herpes outbreak... well just know
> that it's not always going to work. There is no documented proof that
> supports the foods high in arginine theory.
C'mon, everyone know this stuff. Arginine is
the greatest trigger for herpes sufferers.
> > Getting rid of the asymptomatic shedding was, however one most
> > important
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> That's right... because there is no way to wipe out the virus from your
> body. If there was a way... we would not all be posting here any longer.
Yeah, when people have believed (some still do, and lots of them!) that
the Earth was
the center of the Universe someone had to come up with a theory to
prove the contrary.
> > How I did this? By using 2 things: one was an antiseptic spray
> > containing Benzalchonium Chloride, the other one was using cotton swabs
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> matter on anything other than the proven antiviral medications for Herpes
> Simplex Virus.
Yes, sure there are studies for both substances that I've mentioned
about.
I had posted them under my current username; I will repost them later
in this topic.
> > That's it; the rest of the treatments were just adiacent, not relevant.
> > Oils, homeopathic pills (such as Arsenicum Album) might have add their
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> Stress can have a lot to do with outbreaks so it's not right for you to say
> that there is no correlation.
Believe me, I've got a stressful life and no herpes outbreaks, even
though I've gotten my series of them 2 to 4 years ago.
> > I just want to add, though, that for those of you having allergies or
> > sensitivity to
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>
> :: sigh ::
I know, lot's of info; it takes some gray matter to try
to go through all of these. It takes time no doubt about it, to
try to understand all of it.
> > Perl von Molson
> >
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>
> Yes Perl... whatever you say Perl... lol
It's kind of true; too many folks, too many questions about
herpes and... too many negative results.
Yeah, sure, me too, when my last girlfriend and I went to
get checked for herpes and all the other STD's they all came negative
and when I've asked about herpes the lady told me they've kind of lost
the sample they said. I don't make a big deal out of it I know I have
herpes
as I know the Sun will rise tommorow morning.
> Angela :)
>
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M.L.S. - 15 Feb 2005 01:09 GMT
>Yeah, when people have believed (some still do, and lots of them!)
>that the Earth was the center of the Universe someone had
>to come up with a theory to prove the contrary.
Unless you happen to know where the center of the universe is, I
don't think there's any proof that it isn't right here.
Mike
Perl Molson - 15 Feb 2005 22:17 GMT
> >Yeah, when people have believed (some still do, and lots of them!)
> >that the Earth was the center of the Universe someone had
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>
> Mike
Sure, some do believe, indeed, that the center of the Universe
is situated inside their Website where they are sellig prescription
drugs
at Galactic prices... that Black Hole where naive people
type in credit card numbers.
>I just want to add, though, that for those of you having allergies or
>sensitivity to
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>with the hight ammount of toxins resulted from all these gluten
>related.
Perlie, Perlie, Perlie. We went through this two months ago.
People with Celiac Disease will not be doing themselves any favors
by taking Cardamon seeds.
According to http://celiac.com/: "The only acceptable treatment for
celiac disease is strict adherence to a 100% gluten-free diet for
life."
No exception seems to be listed for Cardamon.
They say, further:
"There is no prescriptive drug celiacs can take to effect a cure. In
fact, there is no cure, though there is every opportunity for
celiacs to lead normal, healthy lives by following a diet that
contains no gluten. This means avoiding all products derived from
wheat, rye, barley, oats, and a few other lesser-known grains.
"Extra vitamins may be taken, if necessary, but the only way for a
celiac to avoid damage to their intestinal villi and the associated
symptoms, is by maintaining a gluten-free diet."
Folks, beware of Perlie's recommendations. Don't even take them
with a grain of salt, as that might not be a strong enough antedote.
Mike
Perl Molson - 15 Feb 2005 22:13 GMT
> >I just want to add, though, that for those of you having allergies or
> >sensitivity to
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>
> Mike
I've never said I am a Celiac Disease sufferer myself.
The reason I've mentioned the disease is because of the
trigger that were some types of foods made from floour.
It can be that some preservants or other things like that
were the real trouble; however, I've figured, sprinkling
Cardamom seed powder over flour or coffee etc would
solve the problems regarding herpes associated with the consumption
of such foods ( or beverages, see coffee).
I probably shouldn't have said "Celiac disease" in the first place
but I couldn't find a better association for the context regarding the
mentioned issues.
Besides, as I've posted an article regarding this time real Celiac
Disease
chinese study, cardamom was the cure for the problem.
I don't see how someone would be able to avoid to such an extend
the consumption of wheat, rye etc. It's the same for the diabetics with
their "no sugar" consumption.
The bottom line is, however, is no point in argueing over
some facts posted in here; if you, Mike, or others have problems
digesting certain foods, I recommend you trying the cardamom sprinkled
method. It may work and cardamom is simply a spice, used by billion of
Asians
over some thousands of years; it's been used as westerners are using
salt
and pepper.
Perl von Molson
M.L.S. - 15 Feb 2005 22:37 GMT
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>Besides, as I've posted an article regarding this time real Celiac
>Disease
>chinese study, cardamom was the cure for the problem.
I think the point is, Perlie, that the "studies" you dig up are
often crap. I don't know if cardamon makes a person feel better,
but if the person's problem is a gluten intolerance, the feeling
better is just masking what could turn into serious damage. If YOU
want to rely on old Chinese herb lore that's fine, but let's not
forget that the prudent thing is to remind people that they might
want to think twice before following you down the rabbit hole.
Mike