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M.L.S. - 30 Dec 2004 04:49 GMT
http://www.drudgereport.com/flash2.htm

THE WOMAN WHO STINGS HERSELF WITH BEES TO CONTROL MS

Daily Mail
Wed Dec 29 2004 22:36:14 ET

SHE admits it hurts. But Paula Cooke believes allowing herself to be
stung by bees every day is helping in her battle against MS.

The 40-year-old mother of two has been stung up to six times a day
after spotting the unconventional treatment on the Internet.

She has live bees sent by post to her home where she carries out the
treatment with the help of her mother.

Although bee stings can be dangerous - killing up to nine people a
year through allergic reactions - Mrs Cooke is convinced they are
making a difference.

'I have 110 per cent faith in the bee sting treatment working,' she
said.

'I have the worst form of MS which gets progressively worse but this
has given me real hope.

'I have had MS for 15 years, and have always had to keep my left eye
closed because it was all blurry. But all of a sudden I can see out
of both eyes.

'I can also move some of my toes for the first time in years and can
relax my hamstrings enough to put on a pair of jeans. I know the bee
stings won't ever make me fully better but it seems to be working.'

Mrs Cooke has been having the stings for four months after her
father discovered the treatment, used by some alternative
practitioners in the U.S., on the Internet.

But the recent cold snap affected the delivery of the bees and she
had to stop. 'I was having bees sent from a woman in London but the
Christmas post and the cold weather meant they were dead when they
arrived,' she said at her home in Terrington St Clement, Norfolk.

'It meant I wasn't able to have bee stings for two weeks and so it's
set my treatment back.

'I've now had to start building up the number of bee stings I can
have at one time again because it hurts so much. I had built up an
immunity to the pain.'

Mrs Cooke's mother, Jillian Fisher, collects the bees from a local
beekeeper.

'I get them out of the jar with a pair of tweezers and place them on
Paula's legs and back where they sting her and then they die,' Mrs
Fisher said. 'Before she is stung we put ice on her skin to help
dull the pain.

'At first I hated it but you get used to doing it and I know it's
helping Paula.'
M.L.S. - 30 Dec 2004 05:03 GMT
or even strategies.

    ',)

Mike
maree - 30 Dec 2004 08:53 GMT
Well if this somewhat unconventional treatment is working for that woman,
then it's the chemicals the bee is injecting into her that's doing the
trick, not the sting itself. Therefore, it would be better to find a way of
extracting those chemicals and administering them in a much more comfortable
manner?

Just a thought.

Thanks for that interesting little story Mike.

Happy New Year mate.

Cheers, Maree

> http://www.drudgereport.com/flash2.htm
>
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> 'At first I hated it but you get used to doing it and I know it's
> helping Paula.'
M.L.S. - 02 Jan 2005 02:38 GMT
>Well if this somewhat unconventional treatment is working for that woman,
>then it's the chemicals the bee is injecting into her that's doing the
>trick, not the sting itself. Therefore, it would be better to find a way of
>extracting those chemicals and administering them in a much more comfortable
>manner?

Don't people already extract that stuff for some reason or other?
I'll put it on the mental list of things to search for when I have a
free moment.

>Just a thought.

>Thanks for that interesting little story Mike.

>Happy New Year mate.

What?!?  It's the New Year???  Did I miss it?

Just kidding.  It was too boring here to mention.

Happy New Year to you and everyone else, too.  They know who they
are.

>Cheers, Maree

Yaaaaaaaaaay.   '05.

Mike
Tim Fitzmaurice - 04 Jan 2005 13:20 GMT
>> trick, not the sting itself. Therefore, it would be better to find a way of
>> extracting those chemicals and administering them in a much more comfortable
>> manner?
>
> Don't people already extract that stuff for some reason or other?

Well the allergy group in a department I used to work in certainly used to
extract wasp venom on a regular basis.

Im not convinced that this idea is that unconventional actually...there's
a fair amount of people looking at animal venoms and their bodily effects
beyond anti-venins.

Nat Rev Drug Discov. 2003 Oct;2(10):790-802
Therapeutic potential of venom peptides
Lewis RJ, Garcia ML

is one review that relatively recent. There is some work on blocking
potassium channels to relieve EAE which is a mouse model used for MS and
IIRC thats one sort of thing the vemons might clamp down on.

Tim
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