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Cold sores or allergy?

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Cedrick Lipkovitch - 25 Sep 2003 01:41 GMT
I get random periodic outbreaks of blisters on my lips (ugh), up inside
my nostrils (yuk), on my gums and palate and, lately, in the back of my
throat where the tonsils used to be (owwww). After several treatments
with acyclovir including suppression treatment for six months, I'm still
getting the blisters.

I notice they come out after eating certain foods, for instance fresh
strawberries and possibly soy (makes my skin itch too, but without
hives, so far ...). I had an Egg McMuffin and hash browns for breakfast
this morning, and sure enough I can feel yet another breakout coming on.
Only Ronald knows what the hell's in those.

I already know I'm allergic to some antibiotics, all NSAIDs (hives /
anaphylaxis), I get hay fever and have more or less continuous mild
asthma. So I'm a good candidate for becoming allergic to stuff.

Could these blister outbreaks be, as my doctor recently suggested, an
allergic reaction as opposed to oral herpes? Can allergic reactions
trigger an oral herpes outbreak? Can Lysine help with this at all or am
I just setting myself up for Yet Another Allergy?
M.L.S. - 25 Sep 2003 02:37 GMT
>I get random periodic outbreaks of blisters on my lips (ugh), up inside
>my nostrils (yuk), on my gums and palate and, lately, in the back of my
>throat where the tonsils used to be (owwww). After several treatments
>with acyclovir including suppression treatment for six months, I'm still
>getting the blisters.

>I notice they come out after eating certain foods, for instance fresh
>strawberries and possibly soy (makes my skin itch too, but without
>hives, so far ...). I had an Egg McMuffin and hash browns for breakfast
>this morning, and sure enough I can feel yet another breakout coming on.
>Only Ronald knows what the hell's in those.

>I already know I'm allergic to some antibiotics, all NSAIDs (hives /
>anaphylaxis), I get hay fever and have more or less continuous mild
>asthma. So I'm a good candidate for becoming allergic to stuff.

>Could these blister outbreaks be, as my doctor recently suggested, an
>allergic reaction as opposed to oral herpes? Can allergic reactions
>trigger an oral herpes outbreak? Can Lysine help with this at all or am
>I just setting myself up for Yet Another Allergy?

Geez, sorry to hear you've got it so bad.  With allergies as bad as
your it's going to be real hard to tell where they leave off and the
herpes begins.  The bottom line is that L-lysine might help, and then
it might not, but the only way to know is to try it.  Arlyn will tell
you all about soy and how bad it is, and how hard it is to avoid it,
too, but if you suspect soy then start reading labels and try to
reduce your intake of it.

I can't believe a little ol' Egg McMuffin would be any harm, though,
though I say that with a trace of humor.  It *could* be the heat of
the thing that has irritated your mouth linings.

Also, with symptoms as severe as yours sound, have you tried second
and third opinions as to treatment?  You might want to find somebody
who knows his stuff and will take the time to try to help you.

Take care,

Mike
Angela - 25 Sep 2003 03:48 GMT
Cedrick~
I would definitely have your doctor take a look and run tests because what
you are describing doesn't sound like herpes at all. It's possible that it
could be an allergic reaction as you mentioned. L-Lysine doesn't work for
everybody when it comes to herpes. But, for right now you need to get a
handle on what's going on by finding out what the sores are all about. See a
doctor and get to the bottom of it ~ it's really the only way. Hang in
there~~~
~Angela
maree - 25 Sep 2003 10:31 GMT
Hi Cedrick,
I agree with Angela, you may not even have herpes. It would be a good idea
to have the blisters cultured for the herpes virus. Getting a Western Blot
test to detect the antibody will probably come up positive for type 1
anyway, as for most adults. Get another opinion on your blisters.
Regards, Maree

> I get random periodic outbreaks of blisters on my lips (ugh), up inside
> my nostrils (yuk), on my gums and palate and, lately, in the back of my
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> trigger an oral herpes outbreak? Can Lysine help with this at all or am
> I just setting myself up for Yet Another Allergy?
Grant - 25 Sep 2003 10:34 GMT
Hi Cedrick,

As MLS mentioned, I will tell you about the evils of soy.  Stay away from
that stuff, it will kill you.  :)

I was severely allergic to many foods, including soy.

First, you need to get yourself to a doctor immediately upon seeing the
first blister/sore appear and have it cultured.  If you wait too long, you
could get a false negative so make that call NOW.  Have the doctor do a
culture.  It's the only way to know what that reaction is.  You could have a
herpes blood test run but if you come out positive, you won't know in what
location you have it.  So, get the blisters cultured and perhaps do a blood
test as well.

Second, change your diet.  My food allergies and other others completely
went away with a diet change.  Your body is giving you clear signals that
you are in ill health.  Heed the warnings and make the changes now.  Cut out
processed foods.  Cut out refined sugar.  Cut out white flour.  Add in lots
of fruit (you are probably allergic to strawberries, I was) and lots and
lots of veggies including greens.  Greens are a huge building block towards
health.  Eat only whole foods that you cook yourself so you know what's in
your food.  That means, don't eat anything out of bag, box, bottle or can.
And no excuses.  You can do it.  :)

Let us know what the doctor says.

ar

> I get random periodic outbreaks of blisters on my lips (ugh), up inside
> my nostrils (yuk), on my gums and palate and, lately, in the back of my
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> trigger an oral herpes outbreak? Can Lysine help with this at all or am
> I just setting myself up for Yet Another Allergy?
Cedrick Lipkovitch - 25 Sep 2003 15:02 GMT
> Hi Cedrick,
>
> As MLS mentioned, I will tell you about the evils of soy.  Stay away from
> that stuff, it will kill you.  :)

Will try that.

> First, you need to get yourself to a doctor immediately upon seeing the
> first blister/sore appear and have it cultured.  

BTDT, got a throat culture the day after the first crop of blisters came
up, culture was negative for anything in particular including HSV-1
which I already know I have (check out my passport photo from 1985,
there's a gigantic, very ripe cold sore on my lip) <g>.

> Cut out processed foods.  

etc. BTDT, I've been eating fresh/unprocessed/natural/healthy foods for
decades. That may be part of the problem -- I suspect I'm allergic to
one of the many fresh raw fruits and vegetables I love to eat. Natural
isn't always harmless or safe, as we well know, or there would be no
such thing as allergies.
Grant - 25 Sep 2003 23:19 GMT
I completely understand.  I was allergic to oranges, grapefruit,
strawberries, fish, peanuts, all nuts, shell fish, soy, corn, and zucchini.

All of those allergies are gone now since I completely changed my diet over
to a raw food diet.  I'm still careful to not eat too much of any of my
former allergens at one time.  But sure is liberating to not have to ask
what's in a dish.

ar

> > Hi Cedrick,
> >
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> isn't always harmless or safe, as we well know, or there would be no
> such thing as allergies.
 
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