Re: supressive therapy:
1) What is the longest amount of time one can be on supressive therapy? Is
there a limit?
2) I understand that renal problems may occur when using suppressive
therapy. I have a past history of kidney stones (its been many years since
my last stone.) Do you think this will halt the doctor from letting me
begin supressive therapy?
3)Can episodic meds cause renal discomfort? (One side of back seems to
hurt now and then. I might be overacting, but now I'm worried that my
current Valtrex meds for OB (1MG. twice a day) is causing it.)
~R
Angela S. - 16 Dec 2004 16:16 GMT
> Re: supressive therapy:
> 1) What is the longest amount of time one can be on supressive therapy? Is
> there a limit?
As long as you want to as far as I know. I have never heard of any time
limits for suppression and I know a couple of people that have been on it
for years without any complications.
> 2) I understand that renal problems may occur when using suppressive
> therapy. I have a past history of kidney stones (its been many years since
> my last stone.) Do you think this will halt the doctor from letting me
> begin supressive therapy?
Where have you heard that? Do you have a link that supports what you say? I
personally have never heard of any complications associated with suppressive
therapy.
> 3)Can episodic meds cause renal discomfort? (One side of back seems to
> hurt now and then. I might be overacting, but now I'm worried that my
> current Valtrex meds for OB (1MG. twice a day) is causing it.)
Again.. I have never heard of suppressive therapy causing any such problems.
You may want to give your doctor a call and share your discomfort with
he/she. I wouldn't look for answers or a diagnosis on the internet if I were
you.
Merry CHRISTmas!!
Angela :-)

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M2slo2cht@nospam.invalid - 17 Dec 2004 01:15 GMT
>Re: supressive therapy:
>1) What is the longest amount of time one can be on supressive therapy? Is
>there a limit?
There is no time limit of which I am aware. Many people have been on
suppressive therapy for 15-20 years with no probs.
>2) I understand that renal problems may occur when using suppressive
>therapy.
I seem to remember something of a notice to people with pre-existing
renal problems. But as far as I know, there's no danger for people
with normal renal function.
>I have a past history of kidney stones (its been many years since
>my last stone.) Do you think this will halt the doctor from letting me
>begin supressive therapy?
I don't think kidney stones are the type renal problems that may pose
a danger. If your doc has a different opinion, let us know. ok?
>3)Can episodic meds cause renal discomfort? (One side of back seems to
>hurt now and then. I might be overacting, but now I'm worried that my
>current Valtrex meds for OB (1MG. twice a day) is causing it.)
I doubt Valtrex is the cause of that. At least I've never heard of
that being a side effect.
M2
smogkiller2004@yahoo.com - 31 Dec 2004 14:40 GMT
Compare Valtex with info from posts alleging 'cures' skeptical of:
Saw this posted review of a "high tech" solution, which appears to
indicate high-tech crap. Anybody here with experiences with lasers for
skin cosmetic treatment, and would like to post his/her comments?
YTF! Beauty Report - SkinCare & Beauty Discussion & Support Forum
Re: Beurer Softlaser makes me mad!
Posted By: Deb Date: Sunday, 10/17/04 11:45 p.m.
In Response To: Re: Beurer Softlaser makes me mad! (barb)
I am caucasian. I tried the soft laser for over 3 weeks, faithfully
using it 6 minutes at a time, three times for each area, every day for
over 3 weeks. I have acne on my chin, and fine lines around my eyes and
on forehead (I'm 37). I had an inflamed lesion on my cheek as well that
had been there for months.
I also have a scar on my leg that I lasered regularly, and I tried it
on one thumb (wrinkles there) as a comparison against the unlasered
thumb.
There was absolutely NO change whatsoever in any area that I used the
laser on. Absolutely NO change at all.
I returned the laser and received my money back, minus postage to and
from.
Interestingly enough, since I returned it, I am now using a BHA/AHA
combo toner on my skin and Retin A. My acne is clearing and the
inflamed lesion on my cheek that has been there for months has
virtually disappeared. My skin is looking better than it has in a long
time.
So my experience with the laser was extremely disappointing. I used it
in excess of the suggested time for use, as it said it wouldn't hurt
and I wanted to give it an honest effort.
If you decide to purchase it, I wish you luck.
Yup, sounds to me like a joke, here's why: The seller calls the
preliminary clinical report a "scientific study." Well, we know, from
Vanity Fair, that preliminary studies are often flaky, and unless
confirmed by further controlled studies, are sometimes used as
"advertisements", in this case, Virulite can claim, "medically proven."
To me, unless it is FDA appoved, it isn't "medically proven."
Also, with a little Goggling investigation, I discovered that a common
link between the two light products. The special light frequency --
1072 nm ---used by Virulite also comes up on a hidden webpage on the
Restorelite website.
In the Virulite USA website, we see that the "pilot study" or Virulite
"clinical report" was written by GUESS WHO? Well, themselves!!!
http://www.viruliteusa.com/Published20Clinical.pdf
This is a joke, imho. These guys have written their own "reviews".
Another thing I don't like about the Virulite is that the battery
cannot be replaced, and is guaranteed for only 100 cold sore
treatments.
Virulite's own chart shows that it reduces, allegedly, herpes duration
by 1/2 compared to the prescription drug.
snipped from virulite website The researchers at Virulite Ltd know that
the light has no effect upon the actual virus but does have a positive
effect upon the immune cells responsible for fighting the virus.endsnip
That above quote from Virulite, to me, shows that perhaps a better
diet, more sunlight, less chocolates, sugar, and alcohol, all of which
reduce stress and improve the immune system, could be more beneficial
than Virulex. I'd like to see a review comparing Virulex to a
cruiseship holiday in the Med. I'd bet that the cruise wins over
Virulex, but that's just my guess.
This is my two cents, anyway.
At least the Virulite has (what seems to me) an independent Clinical
Report and a 14-day money back.
However, if I were buying this product, I would not feel good about the
possibility that someone else may have used it to treat his or her
herpes.
This vendor http://www.androv-medical.com/ is incorrect in its claim
that the Virulite cures herpes 4X faster, as the Clinical Report says
the Virulite laser clears herpes 4 days faster than a (prescription?)
drug. If I'm correct, the Virulite website is misleading imho.
There are many claims of light-based anti-wrinkle treatments. One LINK
is below.
http://www.androv-medical.com/
Here my two cents worth about the Restorelite (Restorelight) device's
"before" and "after" photos: The "after" photo was taken with a
different camera setting, as evidenced by the difference in the color
of the eyes. With a lighter photo, wrinkles "magically" disappear, as
any expert or commercial photographer knows.
I also don't see any independent Restorelite lab report or even a study
that proves (to me) that this Restorelite works at all. The "Medical
Evidence" by Restorelite consists of charts of unknown origin, and
there is no attribution as to who made the study or charts.
Could be snake oil, as there is a long history of claims. It doesn't
appear to be FDA approved. My layman's understanding is that is
something "works", then by law, it must be prescribed. If my opinion is
wrong (I'm not a lawyer, so this isn't legal advice) please let me
know.
Restorelite doesn't appear to be a prescription item.
As far as Virulite, any UV light will kill germs. UV light is used for
water treatment.