Hi group,
I am writing to clear up some confusion, and in the process, prepare myself
for the eventuality that I may have genital herpes. Quickly, my story:
I'm a gay guy, and about a year ago, I had very brief oral sex with someone.
Shortly thereafter, like later that evening, my penis started feeling
sensitive, and the feeling progressed; my doctor ran some tests and I was
negative for std's, and my herpes blood test showed negative for HSV2, and a
negligible amount of HSV1.(I've had cold sores on my mouth, so this did not
raise any red flags.) My doctor, and my urologist, both felt that I had an
inflamed urethra, and nothing more.
Since then, very little sex, always safe, mostly mutual masturbation.
OK...one year later, this October 14th, a man performs oral sex on me for,
like 3 seconds. Again, the same thing: later that day, sensitivity. I wasn't
showing any symptoms of std's, but just to be sure, my doc put me on
antibiotics to kill anything, just to be safe.
The sensitivity has lasted on and off, and early November, my doc thought I
had a prostate infection, and put me on levaquin. We also did a herpes blood
test, to see if there's anything there. In the meantime, my penis was not
showing any outward signs of herpes.
The blood test returned negative for HSV2, but high for HSV1. Based on that,
and the fact that my sensitivity would come and go, my doc says I have
genital herpes. That happened Thursday, and since that day, I have had a
constant feeling to urinate, and upon research, could be having the pre
herpes condition prodrome. It's also possible the doc has so psyched me out
so much that my brain has overtaken my dick and I am now convinced I have
genital herpes. Doc put me on Valtrex, and six days later my penis is still
sensitive, although not as much.
So, my questions:
1. Does a high antibody count for HSV1 mean genital herpes? Could this be
something else?
2. Last week (before test results) my penis was feeling fine and I had no
idea this was a possibility. I had unprotected oral sex with my mate, and I
am now becoming unglued at the prospect of infecting someone I love. What
are the chances, if I was in a pre-outbreak stage, that I could have
infected him? (He tells me he's had cold sores, so we're going under the
premise he's already been exposed to HSV1 at some point.) Is it a guarantee
he's been infected?
3. If I have genital herpes, will it ever be safe for me to have unprotected
oral sex?
4. Realistically, how often would I get an outbreak?
In the meantime, my urologist has referred me to an infectious disease
specialist. I hope I get good news, but I am preparing for reality to hit.
Thank you all very much for your time, and your insight.
Jeff
M2slo2cht@nospam.invalid - 24 Nov 2004 13:47 GMT
>I wasn't
>showing any symptoms of std's, but just to be sure, my doc put me on
>antibiotics to kill anything, just to be safe.
Just a note, antibiotics have no effect on herpes.
>my brain has overtaken my dick
hmmm.... for most guys, it's more normal for it to work the other way
'round on a regular basis ;-)
>So, my questions:
>1. Does a high antibody count for HSV1 mean genital herpes?
Not necessarily. Could mean oral herpes instead. Or both.
>Could this be something else?
If "this" means your "genital symptoms" then yes, it could be
something else. But if "this" means "antibodies for HSV1", then no,
you're infected with HSV1. And since you've had apparent cold sore
outbreaks, you're definitely infected orally. It's possible that you
also have a genital infection but a blood test won't distinguish
between genital/oral.
> What
>are the chances, if I was in a pre-outbreak stage, that I could have
>infected him?
Every couple is different. There have been lots of studies that have
come up with group averages but the individual couples in each group
are always spread over a wide range on the risk scale.
>(He tells me he's had cold sores, so we're going under the
>premise he's already been exposed to HSV1
He's been more than just "exposed".
>Is it a guarantee he's been infected?
Yes. If he's had cold sores, he is infected. That being the case, he
won't be reinfected in the same location by the same type virus. And
the risk he'll be infected in a different location by the same type
virus is much lower than it otherwise would be.
>3. If I have genital herpes, will it ever be safe for me to have unprotected
>oral sex?
Your partner won't become REinfected with the same type virus in the
same location. And since he's already infected in at least one
location, his risk is much lower for infection in another.
>4. Realistically, how often would I get an outbreak?
How often are your oral outbreaks? Do they occur on a regular basis?
Or not at all anymore? Or only when they're triggered? Genital is the
same way. Some people have regular outbreaks. Most people don't..
M2
Anonymous - 27 Nov 2004 16:28 GMT
M2,
Thanks for your response, which was very helpful.
Another question:
Where does herpes infect? What I'm asking is this: if I'm experiencing
asymptomatic shedding genitally, and my partner sucks my penis, would that
mean he would only be at risk of getting oral herpes?
Conversely, if I had a cold sore and sucked his penis, would that be how
he's at greatest risk of getting genital herpes?
I remember reading that herpes goes to its site of preference. If I have
HSV1, does that mean the mouth?
Thanks again for your insight.
J
>>I wasn't
>>showing any symptoms of std's, but just to be sure, my doc put me on
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M.L.S. - 27 Nov 2004 17:17 GMT
>M2,
>Thanks for your response, which was very helpful.
>Another question:
>Where does herpes infect? What I'm asking is this: if I'm experiencing
>asymptomatic shedding genitally, and my partner sucks my penis, would that
>mean he would only be at risk of getting oral herpes?
Yes.
>Conversely, if I had a cold sore and sucked his penis, would that be how
>he's at greatest risk of getting genital herpes?
Yes.
>I remember reading that herpes goes to its site of preference. If I have
>HSV1, does that mean the mouth?
HSV1 may "prefer" the oral region, but it can be introduced anywhere
in the body, and will infect where ever it is introduced. HSV1
tends to be less obnoxious in area's outside its preference.
Genital cases of HSV1 tend to be less severe than genital cases of
HSV2, for instance. Acquiring HSV2 in the oral area is thought to
be pretty rare, but is not outside the realm of possibility.
>Thanks again for your insight.
>J
Take care,
Mike
M2slo2cht@nospam.invalid - 27 Nov 2004 17:25 GMT
>Where does herpes infect?
At the point of the skin to skin contact. That assumines that virus
happens to be on the surface of the transferor's skin and it contacts
the transferee's skin in a vulnerable location. Mucosul type skin of
the penis, lips, and vagina are the most vulnerable, Normal skin makes
viral penetration much more difficult although it's still possible
especially through an opening such as an abrasion or minor cut.
>my partner sucks my penis, would that
>mean he would only be at risk of getting oral herpes?
That's correct.
>Conversely, if I had a cold sore and sucked his penis, would that be how
>he's at greatest risk of getting genital herpes?
Correct again.
>I remember reading that herpes goes to its site of preference.
That is NOT correct.
The virus does not migrate through the body from oral to genital or
vice versa. If you become infected with type 1 genitally, it stays
genital. It does not become oral.
>If I have
>HSV1, does that mean the mouth?
No. Not necessarily.
Type 1 describes the type of virus. Not the location.
Most genital infections are type 2 but type 1 genital infections are
common. Newly diagnosed cases of genital herpes in the last few years
have been running about 1/3 type 1 and 2/3 type 2.
Oral infections, on the other hand, are much more often type 1 than
type 2. So although type 2 oral infections are possible, they're
much more rare than type 1 genital.
M2
Anonymous - 27 Nov 2004 17:40 GMT
thanks for your answers; all, very helpful.
J
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