Hallo, folks!
I recently tested negative for the HSV I & II antibodies. But I have a
small, recurring genital sore. Looks just like the kind of canker sore I
get occasionally INSIDE my mouth--a single, small, raised, red, sensitive
area, with a small, lighter, almost-crater-like head. Very sensitive little
thing--makes me squirm at work and burns when urine gets on it (it's the
contact with urine, not the urinating that causes the burn). The sore has
recurred 5 times in the last 2 years or so, always in the same spot. It's
been cultured 3 times (ouch!) and never returned a positive for Herpes. But
it also SEEMS to respond (that is, improve/go away/lessen) with Valtrex,
which my doctor prescribed for my last outbreak. Although I haven't had the
drug long enough probably to be sure yet about this. Doctors still seem to
think this thing is Herpes, but are guessing I'm getting false negatives.
Me and my lovely boyfriend-of-6-years/husband-now-of-13 years would really
like to know what this baby is. We understand that if it's Herpes (or
anything else) it might be contagious, and I certainly don't want to give it
to him. My little sore is an irritant, but not terrible (if it is Herpes,
and if this is the extent of what I have to deal with, I'm incredibly
lucky!) However, if he were to catch it and have a more dramatic symptom,
it would be a bad, sad thing. For now, we're avoiding contact with the sore
(that is, sex, oral or otherwise) whenever it's acting up.
Am I right in thinking, though, if this is Herpes, that this might not be
enough to protect him? If it is Herpes, couldn't I transmit it to him even
when I don't have the sore? (We really don't want to have to start using
condoms after all these years, ya know!)
Anyone know of anything that produces a similar symptom to Herpes but isn't
Herpes?
Do Herpes symptoms occur more frequently with stress? (It SEEMS like this
is when my sore is more likely to appear--if I already have something
wrong--like a sinus infection or cold--or when I'm tired and stressed from
work.)
Anyone never had a positive result, but still pretty sure they have it?
Anybody ever self-infect? (Go from being a non-symptomatic carrier for
years--I mean, like 20 years!--to suddenly having a sore?)
And, for goodness sake, please tell an old, married lady, as frankly as you
can, what we must/should avoid in order to protect each other. (Can you
touch a sore with your hand, then touch something else, and spread this
virus to the something else location? Or is it only direct contact?)
Help, help!
Very grateful for any advice kindly offered,
Lisa
Pain Devine - 06 Sep 2004 03:35 GMT
If you've tested negative THAT many times, you don't have herpes. I think
you have a statistically better chance of contracting martian measles.
maree - 06 Sep 2004 14:00 GMT
Hi Lisa,
Welcome to the group. The lesion you describe does not sound like a typical
herpes outbreak, which comprises of tiny blisters. Herpes lesions are
frequently preceded by a tingling sensation and once the outbreak occurs it
can be very itchy. Do you get these symptoms? The fact that the lesion
responds to Valtrex indicates there is a viral cause. I find it incredible
that you test negative for Herpes type 1, as approximately 90% of adults are
positive for type 1 by the time they are in their thirties. So perhaps you
are getting false negatives.
If you do have herpes and are concerned about passing it on to your husband,
it would be advisable to take Valtrex indefinitely. This would also give a
pretty fair indication if you have herpes or not, as while on Valtrex, your
lesions should not recur. It might be a good idea to have a full STD work
up, just to make sure your symptoms are not caused by some other
condition.What do the others think?
Regards, Maree
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poo - 06 Sep 2004 14:52 GMT
Thanks, Maree.
Yeah, I find it a little too incredible that I'm negative (at age 39) for
Type I as well--my mother has had cold sores her entire life--along the
lines of Mike's except maybe not Cleveland, maybe Cincinnati. So what I was
really expecting was that I had been a carrier all along, and somehow
infected myself down lower through hand transmission or something. I
certainly played enough kissing games when I was a kid that it's amazing
that I don't have it, frankly. ;-) My husband has been much more
circumspect, and I'm his sole partner, so we are a bit baffled.
No tingling, just increased sensitivity before the outbreak. And the sore
doesn't itch. It really does look/feel like a canker sore (which I get
every other year or so, only INSIDE my mouth) only in the wrong place.
However, the fact that it recurrs in exactly the same location every time
certainly adds weight to the viral cause/case, and I believe canker sores
are not viral supposedly. A couple years ago, when I first had it, my
doctor did the whole STD battery (which come to think of it, didn't include
HSV at that time) and all were negative. I had to request the HSV antibody
test recently after I made a trip to emergency with a longer, more painful
than normal occurrence, and the emergency doctor was seriously interested in
obtaining a positive, and so the culture was quite painful. But I think
I'll have them redo the whole lot next time I'm in just to be sure. And my
husband is going to request the same thing next time he goes in. At least
if we knew he already carried HSV, then we could relax a little about that
one possibility.
Thanks again, all. Hope you're enjoying a beautiful holiday weekend (or if
you're not in the US, that your Monday wasn't unusually difficult!)
Lisa
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