Hello,
I contracted genital herpes a year and a half ago, and I'm now getting
to the point where I have to learn to deal with it in practical terms.
I was hoping some of you might be able to give this newbie some advice.
I'm a gay male, and 18 months ago, I developed clusters of blisters, one on
each side of my inner thighs, shortly after receiving unprotected oral sex.
Being uneducated, I was careless in the shower and I can only assume that
I then proceeded to autoinfect myself in the perianal area (and possibly
in the scalp) during that initial outbreak.
Since that first outbreak, I've had no other symptoms in the genital
area. And my incidence of cold sores around the mouth (from what I've
long assumed is an old HSV-1 infection) has remained about the same,
roughly one every six months. But since then, I've been suffering
very frequent bouts of *incredibly intense* itching of the anal
region, especially in the evenings. Each episode can last several
hours and they tend to reoccur several days at a stretch before going
away. As best as I can tell, there are no visible signs around the
anus (no blisters or skin breaks) but the itching can be almost
unbearable. I've also been getting occasional blisters on the back
of my head, something I don't remember happening in the past.
Out of a sense of futilitiy, I didn't seek medical advice for about
a year. And when I did, my general practitioner merely prescribed
a course of Valtrex even though I was asymptomatic at the time. While
I was on that drug, the bouts of itching stopped completely. But as
soon as I stopped the Valtrex a few weeks later, the itching episodes
resumed, seemingly even more furiously than before.
I didn't like the way my stomach reacted to the Valtrex, so I started
doing some research, and I tried Rhus Toxicondendron. And that's worked
very well for me. I take a dose whenever I feel the itching about to
start, and that usually lasts me about a week before I have to take
another dose (3 x 30c). I can live with that.
The reason I'm posting this, though, is to ask about my chances of
infecting a sexual partner. Ever since the original infection, I've
been very religious about using a condom during oral sex, both giving and
receiving. However, I've recently started dating someone who looks
to be getting serious. He wants us to start having oral sex without
condoms. I've put him off so far. But since I've already told him
that I'm HIV-negative (and he's told me the same), I think it's time
for me to tell him about my herpes. But before I do, I'm trying to
educate myself as much as I can, so we can discuss the risks involved.
These are some of my questions I have: how do I know when I'm
shedding the virus, and is there anything I can do/take to reduce
those times? In particular, is there a relationship between my
having an episode of anal itching and an increased risk to my
partner in my giving or receiving unprotected oral sex? I guess I'm
trying to figure out if my itching episodes constitute an actual
outbreak, during which I'm especially contagious. And would the
viral shedding extend beyond my anal area to my saliva, penile skin
and (pre-)ejaculate?
Since the Rhus T seems to suppress my symptoms effectively, is it
reasonable to assume that it lessens the viral shedding as well?
Or am I better off going on some permanent medication like Valtrex
or Acyclovir if I want to minimize the risks of exposing my partner
at all times?
I have many other questions, but I've gone on long enough. I'd really
be grateful for any advice, recommendations or anecdotes anyone would
like to offer in response.
JJ
Wanda - 26 Oct 2004 14:48 GMT
> Hello,
Hi JJ!
> I contracted genital herpes a year and a half ago, and I'm now getting
> to the point where I have to learn to deal with it in practical terms.
> I was hoping some of you might be able to give this newbie some advice.
I'll try my best and so will some others in here.
> I'm a gay male, and 18 months ago, I developed clusters of blisters, one
> on
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> shedding the virus, and is there anything I can do/take to reduce
> those times?
When you feel the prodrome, the itching and stuff like that, its a bet you
are shedding then. You can also shed and not know it and be contagious.
In particular, is there a relationship between my
> having an episode of anal itching and an increased risk to my
> partner in my giving or receiving unprotected oral sex?
I would think giving oral would be ok unless you have an oral OB going on,
but it may be risky for getting oral since you can shed anywhere in the
"boxer shorts" region when shedding.
I guess I'm
> trying to figure out if my itching episodes constitute an actual
> outbreak, during which I'm especially contagious.
If you are shedding you can give it to someone. No matter if you have an
actual OB or not.
And would the
> viral shedding extend beyond my anal area to my saliva, penile skin
> and (pre-)ejaculate?
Not the saliva as far as I have heard. By the way, a condom Only protects
the actual coverage area.
> Since the Rhus T seems to suppress my symptoms effectively, is it
> reasonable to assume that it lessens the viral shedding as well?
I am not familiar with this product.
> Or am I better off going on some permanent medication like Valtrex
> or Acyclovir if I want to minimize the risks of exposing my partner
> at all times?
I know I have had great response to Valtrex and I no longer take it at all
after the first year or so. My OB's have seemed to lessen over the years.
> I have many other questions, but I've gone on long enough. I'd really
> be grateful for any advice, recommendations or anecdotes anyone would
> like to offer in response.
>
> JJ
Hope I did some good for you. Ask all the questions you need or want to ask!
Good Luck,
Wanda : )
drew - 27 Oct 2004 16:04 GMT
> Hello,
>
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> I then proceeded to autoinfect myself in the perianal area (and possibly
> in the scalp) during that initial outbreak.
I sounds like HSV1. Have you been tested?
> Since that first outbreak, I've had no other symptoms in the genital
> area. And my incidence of cold sores around the mouth (from what I've
> long assumed is an old HSV-1 infection) has remained about the same,
> roughly one every six months.
So you know you have HSV1 orally. It is unlikely that you would be
infected with HSV1 genitally if you already have the antibodies to
HSV1 in your system. It is possible that you have contracted HSV2 from
oral sex but you should get tested with the Western blot blood test to
determine if you have HSV1 or HSV2 or both.
But since then, I've been suffering
> very frequent bouts of *incredibly intense* itching of the anal
> region, especially in the evenings. Each episode can last several
> hours and they tend to reoccur several days at a stretch before going
> away. As best as I can tell, there are no visible signs around the
> anus (no blisters or skin breaks) but the itching can be almost
> unbearable.
This could be candida albicans or herpes.
I've also been getting occasional blisters on the back
> of my head, something I don't remember happening in the past.
This is not likely herpes, sounds more like exzema, but it could be.
You should have the blisters cultured (swab taken) to determine what
it is.
> Out of a sense of futilitiy, I didn't seek medical advice for about
> a year. And when I did, my general practitioner merely prescribed
> a course of Valtrex even though I was asymptomatic at the time. While
> I was on that drug, the bouts of itching stopped completely. But as
> soon as I stopped the Valtrex a few weeks later, the itching episodes
> resumed, seemingly even more furiously than before.
Unless you are taking the Valtrex or other antiviral during an
outbreak, there is no point to taking a single course of the drug.
You can take it continually as a suppressive or take it during an
outbreak. If you take it during an outbreak it is best to take it at
the first signs of tingling or itching or whatever physical sign
indicates to you that you are about to have an outbreak. This can
stop the replication of the virus and shorten the duration of the
outbreak and lessen its severity.
> The reason I'm posting this, though, is to ask about my chances of
> infecting a sexual partner. Ever since the original infection, I've
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> for me to tell him about my herpes. But before I do, I'm trying to
> educate myself as much as I can, so we can discuss the risks involved.
I take it you will be considering sex other than just oral sex if you
are getting serious with a partner. HSV1 prefers the mouth and HSV2
prefers to locate in the genital area. You can probably protect ok
with condoms during oral sex but all bets are off if you stop using
condoms. With anal sex you will sooner or later probably transmit
herpes to your partner if it is HSV2 with or without a condom.
> These are some of my questions I have: how do I know when I'm
> shedding the virus, and is there anything I can do/take to reduce
> those times?
You can reduce shedding generally by taking suppressive doses of an
antiviral such as Valtrex. There is what is called asymptomatic
shedding so there is no truly reliable way to protect your partner if
you are sexually active.
In particular, is there a relationship between my
> having an episode of anal itching and an increased risk to my
> partner in my giving or receiving unprotected oral sex?
If this is in fact herpes that is causing your itching, then you are
shedding when you have symptoms but since you may be shedding when you
don't have symptoms, there is really no safe time to have unprotected
oral sex.
I guess I'm
> trying to figure out if my itching episodes constitute an actual
> outbreak, during which I'm especially contagious. And would the
> viral shedding extend beyond my anal area to my saliva, penile skin
> and (pre-)ejaculate?
The virus is present on the skin surface, whether that is lips, penis,
anus, or the skin around the genital area. This is where the virus is
shed from and it is this skin to skin contact that transmits the
virus.
> Since the Rhus T seems to suppress my symptoms effectively, is it
> reasonable to assume that it lessens the viral shedding as well?
> Or am I better off going on some permanent medication like Valtrex
> or Acyclovir if I want to minimize the risks of exposing my partner
> at all times?
If you are seriously considering a longterm relationship, I think you
should resign yourselves to the probability that you will share the
herp. For most people that is not a big deal.
Once you are aware of triggers such as poor diet, stress, lack of
sleep, etc, and if you catch the outbreak when it first occurs, you
can probably deal with the herp as a minor irritation and not
something to dread. Most people are asymptomatic even without
medication so you should be able to minimize the effect of the herp
upon your life if you take care of yourself.
Hope this helps.