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Tetrasil, Herpasil or Phyto-Clear?

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Anonymous - 21 Aug 2004 08:31 GMT
Has anybody tried any/all of the following:

Tetrasil (http://www.tetrasil.com)
Herpasil (http://www.herpasil.com)
Phyto-Clear (http://www.phytohealing.com)

I'd be interested to hear any responses...

Thanks!
Pain Devine - 21 Aug 2004 08:53 GMT
In the wild west we called things like this "Snake Oil"

In the modern world we call them "Hippie Bullshit"

Don't waste your time...
Anonymous - 21 Aug 2004 09:23 GMT
> In the wild west we called things like this "Snake Oil"
>
> In the modern world we call them "Hippie Bullshit"
>
> Don't waste your time...

I was hoping someone who had actually tried any of them would respond.

There have been numerous (albeit early) studies that indicate Prunella
Vulgaris (of which Herpasil is comprised) inactivates (even at the
cellular level) the Herpes (HSV-I and HSV-II) virus.

Tetrasil, which holds a few U.S. Patents for its TetraSilver Tetroxide
nano-compound, makes claims of electrically-charged molecules killing
Herpes on contact.

Phyto-Clear, the least impressive (marketing-wise, at least) has no
information on what it contains, but has 'studies' linked to its website.

Now, please, I don't mean to be rude, but only people with genuine
experiences with these products (good or bad), reply.

I'm not trolling, by any means, and want to know legitimately if any of
these work or not.

Thanks!
Pain Devine - 21 Aug 2004 16:05 GMT
Well, I DO mean to be rude. f.ck off with your bullshit snake oil. You
should be ashamed of yourself for coming in here and trying to push this
crap.

THERE IS NO CURE FOR HERPES

There are a couple of drugs, that you can get by prescription, that decrease
the number and severity of the symptoms. If you really do have herpes (which
I doubt) go see your doctor. Nothing you can buy from poorly made websites
will help you. You can sprinkle all the seaweed, bat sh.t, and fairy dust
you want on your crotch and it ain't gonna go away. At best you might get a
rash.

> There have been numerous (albeit early) studies that indicate Prunella
> Vulgaris (of which Herpasil is comprised) inactivates (even at the
> cellular level) the Herpes (HSV-I and HSV-II) virus.

Prunella Vulgaris: Commonly known as "Self Heal"
A Common flowering weed that grows in every part of North America. Used in
numerous "Herbal remedys" a quick search of the web reveals that the ONLY
studies listed regarding thsi drug were on the websites of the affore
mentioned marketers.

> Tetrasil, which holds a few U.S. Patents for its TetraSilver Tetroxide
> nano-compound, makes claims of electrically-charged molecules killing
> Herpes on contact.

What is an "Electrically charged molecule"? What's a "Nano-compond"? you're
just making sh.t up!
Anonymous - 13 Sep 2004 07:06 GMT
> Well, I DO mean to be rude. f.ck off with your bullshit snake oil. You
> should be ashamed of yourself for coming in here and trying to push this
> crap.

I'm not affiliated with any of the above companies (in fact, not a
single company in the world, since I'm a student).

> THERE IS NO CURE FOR HERPES

Well-known fact.  In fact, no known cures for any virus, currently.
Vaccines, yes, but that's not a cure, since a cure describes a treatment
applied once afflicted.  (I'm sure you know this.)

> There are a couple of drugs, that you can get by prescription, that decrease
> the number and severity of the symptoms. If you really do have herpes (which
> I doubt) go see your doctor. Nothing you can buy from poorly made websites
> will help you. You can sprinkle all the seaweed, bat sh.t, and fairy dust
> you want on your crotch and it ain't gonna go away. At best you might get a
> rash.

Why do you doubt I have herpes?  Why would I be here, looking for
honest, real-world advice, when I didn't?  Not everyone has huge
flare-ups.  In fact, the most annoying symptoms I have is the prodrome
(which for me is the itching and tingling).

>>There have been numerous (albeit early) studies that indicate Prunella
>>Vulgaris (of which Herpasil is comprised) inactivates (even at the
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> studies listed regarding thsi drug were on the websites of the affore
> mentioned marketers.

WRONG.  Learn to use the web.  http://www.asm.org/Media/index.asp?bid=17186

>>Tetrasil, which holds a few U.S. Patents for its TetraSilver Tetroxide
>>nano-compound, makes claims of electrically-charged molecules killing
>>Herpes on contact.
>
> What is an "Electrically charged molecule"? What's a "Nano-compond"? you're
> just making sh.t up!

YOU, in YOUR "A herpes cure" thread response even mention nano-technology!

Here's a handy link, to remind you:
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&threadm=tNadndtCLKI-l5nc4p2dn
A%40adelphia.com&rnum=4&prev=/groups%3Fq%3Da%2Bherpes%2Bcure%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%2
6ie%3DUTF-8%26selm%3DtNadndtCLKI-l5nc4p2dnA%2540adelphia.com%26rnum%3D4


Now please, for the sake of this group and for POSSIBLE help to others
afflicted with herpes, take the tone down a little.

Tetrasil's patent:
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=/
netahtml/srchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=5,571,520.WKU.&OS=PN/5,571,520&RS=PN/5,571,
520

Anonymous - 14 Nov 2004 08:53 GMT
An update (not sure anybody but 'Pain Devine' (sic) reads this thread
anyways.

PhytoHealing went out of business, or so it seems.  Their website at
http://www.phytohealing.net says it's 'temporarily down', but I believe
they're gone.

Tetrasil also didn't seem to help.

I'll try Acyclovir now.

>> Well, I DO mean to be rude. f.ck off with your bullshit snake oil. You
>> should be ashamed of yourself for coming in here and trying to push this
[quoted text clipped - 56 lines]
> Tetrasil's patent:
> http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=/
netahtml/srchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=5,571,520.WKU.&OS=PN/5,571,520&RS=PN/5,571,
520
 
drew - 15 Nov 2004 14:07 GMT
> An update (not sure anybody but 'Pain Devine' (sic) reads this thread
> anyways.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> I'll try Acyclovir now.

Kind of frustrating, I'm sure, but don't give up trying.  Some of the
products seem kind of sketchy.  For example, I can't imagine tea tree
oil on its own being a very effective remedy.  I've read a scientific
paper that supports the effectiveness Melissa officinalis (lemon
balm).  This plant apparently grows like a weed all over the place,
and there is a New Zealand company that sells a topical with lemon
balm as the main ingredient.  Might be worth a shot.  Can't remember
the URL. You can buy Melissa officinalis caps at the health food
store.  It's marketed as a 'skin health' product.  No mention of
herpes.

If you don't mind a suggestion, I would say look at the ingredients of
the product that you are considering buying and do a little research
to see if the ingredients have been used with any success against the
herp elsewhere or at least mentioned as having anti-viral properties
(specifically herpes).  If so, then it's possible that the
testimonials on the web site are not complete fabrications.  Good
luck.
 
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