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Washing face when cold sores outbreak.

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Elaine Rene - 24 Aug 2003 17:55 GMT
I have just discovered this newsgroup this morning and been looking through
the archives.  Internet is wonderful to discover information and also to
find that you are not alone with certain problems.    Thanks for being
here!!
I've had cold sore problems for about 5 years, wich I believe I caught from
drinking out of glasses that were infected at a friend's party.(getting
blasted to the point of being really, really, really sick on that time didnt
help either)
Anyways, since then I have gradually became such a master at inhibiting the
sores (through diet and supplements )that now when I outbreak, the blisters
are weak enough not to show, and hubby thinks its all in my mind!    I keep
telling him that if I'd let the sores break out completely, they would
appear all around my entire mouth, down to my chin, up my cheeks and near my
lower eyelids.  Thats how badly infected I am.
This brings me to my second question for those who have experience with cold
sores.   Since I know I am infected near the eyes I get very worried about
it spreading TO the eyes when I wash my face.   I'm careful with my
washcloth but I wonder If I should avoid using it completely.   Any good
tricks for washing our faces effectively when we outbreak, to avoid
spreading it around more?   I've started washing with Cetaphil and it says
on the bottle you can just wipe it off without rinsing if you want.  Would
that be a good option?  Or should I just stay dirty till it clears :-)?

Thanks for listening !!

Élaine
arlyn - 24 Aug 2003 19:19 GMT
Hi Elaine,

First I want to say welcome to the group.  Then I want to say that you
probably did not get herpes from drinking out of a glass.  The virus needs
skin to skin contact to transmit.  It would be very rare to get it from an
inanimate object.

As far as washing goes...That's a really good question.  You may want to use
a cleanser that has tea tree oil in it.  I understand that it can really
help with oral outbreaks.  It might help to protect you from spreading it to
your eyes.  But I think that if it was that easy to spread, then more people
would have problems with ocular herpes.

ar

> I have just discovered this newsgroup this morning and been looking through
> the archives.  Internet is wonderful to discover information and also to
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> Élaine
Angela - 24 Aug 2003 21:02 GMT
Hi Elaine! :)

I agree with everything that Ar has told you so far! I would also like to
welcome you to the group!
Something you may want to keep in mind is that washing your face with soap
and water is not likely going to spread the virus around. Once your body has
developed antibodies that is VERY hard to do.  I would like to recommend
that you check out two web sites. One of them will have information about
transmission and the other will have some links you can look up when you
have more time to do the research on herpes.

http://www.westoverheights.com/freebooktext.html
http://www.westoverheights.com/freebooktext.html

~Angela
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PickingUpThePieces/
mishaisacat - 25 Aug 2003 00:05 GMT
Yeah,  soap does kill the virus, so you should be okay.  Here's the crazy
thing I do:  I don't use wash cloths but instead do a lot of splashing.
Splash water on.  Sud up with my favorite gentle face wash (Purpose?).
Splash off.  It makes me feel like I'm in a commercial.

I originally developed my splashing technique when I got genipes (pronounced
jenna-peas for genital herpes).  Lots of warm baths helped, but I took to
heart the soap and water kills the virus thing a bit too much, which made
things worse (along with that crappy zovirax cream), and finally I quit the
cream and began splash cleaning.  The idea was that splash cleaning would
reduce further irritation and not stir things up so much and spread things
around.  Probably just a cowinkydink, but that was the turning point and
things started looking up.

I stopped using wash cloths as a college student because I didn't have easy,
regular access to a washer and dryer and they quickly become disgusting and
disgusting to store until they can be cleaned.  It was about this time that
shower poufs became so popular.  I thought they were ingenious because they
didn't leave a soap slime trail and air dried nicely in my shower kit.  Bar
soap and dorm showers--ick!

I have recently fallen victim to the 'wipe' craze that's sweeping the
nation: glass wipes, clorox wipes, floor wipes, armorall wipes, face wipes,
you name it, and there are some okey-dokey face wipes out there, for when I
don't really feel like doing the whole splish splash thing, though none are
as good.  The don't have to be washed and they never get funky.

Maybe too, for paranoia's sake (really, it's soap and water--it can't be
that bad) maybe start with the eyes so you're not spreading nothing to them,
then move on to parts that make you feel nervous.

all best,
mishaisacat

> Hi Elaine,
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> > Élaine
M.L.S. - 26 Aug 2003 06:04 GMT
>Yeah,  soap does kill the virus, so you should be okay.  Here's the crazy
>thing I do:  I don't use wash cloths but instead do a lot of splashing.
>Splash water on.  Sud up with my favorite gentle face wash (Purpose?).
>Splash off.  It makes me feel like I'm in a commercial.

<snip>

LOL.  I've been a splasher since I was little.  For years I *only*
splashed, no soap products (on the face), which required lots of
splashing, let me tell you.  Somewhere in childhood I formed a
conjecture (which I still hold) that soap is bad for the skin,
especially the face.  And make-up is pure Hell for it, in case anyone
doesn't know.  I've had girlfriends with skin problems which ended as
soon as I convinced them to lay off the make-up.  Make-up:  bad.
However, that make-up cleansing product of old, Noxzema is OK, at
least in my book, though I hope I don't have to find out why.  I use
Noxzema about once a week now, and splash like hell the rest of the
time.

Take care,

Mike
mishaisacat - 26 Aug 2003 07:51 GMT
Glad you liked.  I think "soap" is bad for facial skin.  I use a "non-soap
face wash."  Not entirely sure the difference, but I can feel it.  Thinking
of it, one of my more hippyish friends swears by not washing her face and
just letting the shower take care of it.

best~miac

> >Yeah,  soap does kill the virus, so you should be okay.  Here's the crazy
> >thing I do:  I don't use wash cloths but instead do a lot of splashing.
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> Mike
M.L.S. - 26 Aug 2003 05:55 GMT
>I have just discovered this newsgroup this morning and been looking through
>the archives.  Internet is wonderful to discover information and also to
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>on the bottle you can just wipe it off without rinsing if you want.  Would
>that be a good option?  Or should I just stay dirty till it clears :-)?

Hi, Elaine.  I agree with the earlier posters and want to re-emphasize
that while it's good to remain cautious with the eyes, after five
years your risk of transference is pretty low.  During active
outbreaks, of course, you should always be careful.  Almost any
product you use on your face will kill the virus on the skin surface,
though, I suppose if you wanted to be super careful you could wash
your lower face first and then your upper.

While ocular herpes is kinda scary, it's not as common as one might
think, and a little common sense is usually what it takes to not get
it.

Take care,

Mike
 
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