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Treating HV "in steps", by individual symptoms

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Perl Molson - 13 Jun 2004 21:32 GMT
The shedding of the herpes virus are in the CNS or spinal cord,
added to the assymptomatic shedding in the other locations, such as
mucus/skin and inside the axon (where it can even produce new viruses,
in conformity to some studies).

Now, in order to remove the viruses from the CNS location (at the
extention of
the neuron), we need to create a certain type of chi
movement along the spine.

If you wish to understand what this flow of chi along the spinal
cord means, try an extremelly easy practical exercise
yourself, that is:

http://www.whatreallyworks.co.uk/start/handson.asp?article_ID=101

The Metamorphic Technique

Meditate: Man's problem today is not only has he lost the way; he's
lost the address - Nicolas Bardyaev

If you're lucky enough to stumble across this treatment, you'll wonder
why everyone else seemed to know about it but you? There's a lot of
secrecy around it, partly because it attracts such high fliers who
wouldn't want their families or their bosses to know what they're
doing, and partly because it's so difficult to explain just what is
going on.

The Metamorphic Technique is a relative of reflexology. Both start
with the practitioner taking your foot in their hand. The similarity,
though, ends there. A good metamorphic practitioner sees themselves as
simply holding the energy while the client's own life force gets to
work to eliminate long-held blockages which may be holding them back
from reaching their full potential.

The theory is that traumas that take place from the moment of
conception are held within the memory of every cell in the body, and
until these memories are released you will be blocked from moving on
and fulfilling your life's true purpose.

I like this Technique because (1) it gets results, and (2) your
intellect cannot sabotage the process. It seems to work despite, and
not because of your involvement.

When you arrive for your first hour-long session, you'll be asked to
remove your shoes and socks and make yourself comfortable, either in a
chair or on a couch. The practitioner will take your foot in his or
her hand and begin to gently prod a line that runs from the end of
your big toe to the back of your heel, following the arch of your
foot. This gentle movement follows the spinal reflexes, and this area
is said to represent the nine months you were in your mother's womb.

You are not required to do anything. You can talk, or not, as you
please. Lots of men like this Technique because it's okay to fall
asleep too. The practitioner will work on both feet, and then mirror
this same action on both hands, running from the tip of the index
finger along the arch to the end of the thumb. Finally, they turn
their attention to your head - for me, this was where the real work
started.

You'll probably be aware of energy moving around inside your body.
This can be a mild tingling or a rush of heat up the spine. You may
sometimes feel nothing and that's fine too. Commonly reported
after-effects, especially after the first few sessions, can include
flu-like symptoms without the fever, stomach upsets, tearfulness,
chronic tiredness, and aching limbs.

The number of sessions you need is entirely up to you. Some people go
once a week, others once a month. I had weekly sessions for nine
months and then stopped. You can go back for ‘top up' sessions when
you feel the need to.

The changes you can expect will vary between individuals, but what
almost everyone who has experienced this technique agrees is that
these changes, when they do come, are always dramatic. I looked in my
supermarket trolley one day and realised it was full of vegetables. I
realised that I couldn't remember when I'd last given in to temptation
and had a cigarette or an alcoholic drink. Quite simply, these props
no longer feature in my life. I found that I couldn't eat meat, and I
couldn't stand crowds or excessive noise. It was as if, physically,
I'd been spring-cleaned. Emotionally, I felt as if I'd shed all the
traumas that had been blighting my life and could finally move on.

This technique gets real results, but is not for the faint-hearted.
Although it appears as if you do no work, once the life force gets
going again, the speed with which you move ahead may leave you feeling
dizzy.

http://www-ermm.cbcu.cam.ac.uk/99000381h.htm

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From: Tim Fitzmaurice (tjf11@cus.cam.ac.uk)
Subject: Re: Treating HV "in steps", by individual symptoms
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Date: 2003-04-01 07:46:07 PST


On 28 Mar 2003, Perl Molson wrote:

> What I need to know, is what kind of traces the HV leaves in the
> ganglia where it stays dormant.

The DNA of the virus remains. It replicates in response to some
currently
unknown signal and churns out extra circles which leave the cell
nucleus
and head off to do their thing (be encapsualted, transported and
released)

> Cannot those "traces" of HV, be "made alive and kickin'" and leave the
> ganglia,

No, the core circle stays inside, if you push that to replicate and
activate you get a reactivation of the virus (which you could do by
pumping in corticosteroids for example).
Theoretically there are ways that you might target the DNA and chop it
up,
but such ideas are so far in advance of current technology they are
just
that:- pure theoreticals with a fistful of things that need to be
sorted
out in a number of different fields. THe big problem being sure we
might
be able to flag the DNA but its INSIDE the cell and so to many of
things
that might be make to activate on the flag cant get there, or would
hit
our own cellular DNA as well....eiher way basically you cant go round
killing off nerve cells.
About the closest to your idea is some kind of antisense vaccine that
gets
in and binds up the herpevirus DNA so it cannot reactivate, which is
much
more in the realms of possiblity - examine that field for that sort of
idea. THe ideal target would be a binding site for a transcription
factor
- again the problem here is that factors in question would be host
cell
ones and so you would likely bind up the hot cell DNA so you have to
look
elsewhere....

> Or else why not would the HV forget the paths that they usually
> use to travel through the nerve cell? They might follow a certain
> pattern previously "memorized" by the viruses?

You are anthropomorphising a little to much but basically yes they
route
they go through the nerve cell is basically hardcoded ni the DNA - a
protein that will bind t the relevant transport system

> The mechanisms being involved in triggering and transporting HV
> through the nerve cell
> must require a certain chemistry (ions, enzymes etc) to drag the virus
> along

Yes its biomechanical motors in the anterograde and retrograde systems
that the virus can stick to and move it - this system is used by the
cell
to move stuff around its insides and the virus has simpy evolved to
use
it. This has actually been filmed....

> the nerve cell but why then
> cannot be all HV be transported outside the ganglia or
> none to be transported outside it? (in the former case by "forgetting
> the pattern of exiting it")

Im a alittle unsure of what you are asking here...so Ill try and
answer.
Its not going to go outside before the end of the cell because the
transport system goes all the way to the end of the cell - remember
from
the tip of your finger to the ganglion, and then back out to the
spinal
cord is the length of one single nerve cell....nerve fibers are not a
set
of cells end to end - it a bunch of cells lying side by side. Their
cell
bodies are what form the major part of the ganglion with there process
extending out to the connections....

As such a virus that stays safely in the nerve cell till it reaches
the
skin area is going to do better than one that dives outside halfway
down.
Evolution has made it so that the herpesvrus uses this
strategy....once
they reach the end of the nerve cell then it does in fact go out by
binding to the membrane of the cell and being released....

Tim
When playing rugby, its not the winning that counts, but the taking
apart
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M.L.S. - 13 Jun 2004 22:37 GMT
>The shedding of the herpes virus are in the CNS or spinal cord,
>added to the assymptomatic shedding in the other locations, such
>as mucus/skin and inside the axon (where it can even produce new
>viruses, in conformity to some studies).

>Now, in order to remove the viruses from the CNS location (at
>the extention of the neuron), we need to create a certain type
>of chi movement along the spine.

If the submicroscopic herpes viruses were capable of responding to
such fantastical thinking, Perl, it would more likely be with
derisive laughter than any other way.

>If you wish to understand what this flow of chi along the spinal
>cord means, try an extremelly easy practical exercise yourself,
>that is:

<snip>

There ya go.  All we need are a few low-cost foot rubs and we'll all
be picking up our socks after ourselves and getting herpes-free, to
boot.

I just fantasized I had a food rub, and my Chi energy is already lit
up so much like a Roman candle that I think I'll fantasize about
telling my electrical utility provider that I no longer need their
services.  Wa hoo.

Mike
Perl Molson - 14 Jun 2004 03:30 GMT
Well, let's put it this way:
http://www-ermm.cbcu.cam.ac.uk/99000381h.htm

As you can see from the animation, HSV, after
reactivated from the nerve ganglion, some will move
down to CNS.

What can you tell about these viruses that has reached the CNS?
I haven't heard much talk about it in here.

The so called latent state of the HSV cannot
simply explain its reactivation without an external causal
factor.

I dare to make an association in between the
above mentioned external causal factors as being actually
certain HSV situated somewhere else in the body.

Independently, how can those traces of DNA become suddenly
active HSV?
The viruses must have some sort of bio-chemical signalling from
the outside ganglia to transfer, thus, this bio-chemical information
to the traces of DNA such information needed, in order for
the process of creating the new HSV in ganglia to take place.

That is how it can be explaned why some folks would never have
OB's.
It is, to my guess, because, once the HSV would reach the ganglia,
the viruses remained on the skin/mucosa will be destroyed without
giving the possibility for new viruses to have birth in ganglia.

There is this interdependability between the HSV's ability to
create new viruses in ganglia and
signalls received in ganglia from the passive viruses located elsewhere.

What these "signalls" are? I don't know. That what I would like to know.
I am reading now a physiology book and I might get more clues about it.

Perl Molson

> >The shedding of the herpes virus are in the CNS or spinal cord,
> >added to the assymptomatic shedding in the other locations, such
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>
> Mike
 
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