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The virus can live in your toothbrush and reinfect you

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Perl Molson - 31 May 2004 19:19 GMT
This is not an invitation for anyone to get rid of their toothbrushes
it is just an invitation for Mike and other posters to get a clue
of how some herpes related things work
and stop using offensive language, in here.

Perl Molson

The virus can live in your toothbrush and reinfect you. As soon as you
feel a cold sore coming on, throw away the toothbrush you're using.
Then, when the sore is history, get a new toothbrush once again. If
you don't think it's worth the expense of three toothbrushes, think of
how you feel when you look in the mirror at your cold sore. When
you're preparing to brush your teeth, do not put the toothbrush up
against the top of the toothpaste before squeezing the tube. Your
toothbrush can infect the toothpaste and the herpes virus can be
passed on to other family members, or can keep reinfecting you.

http://www.drweil.com/app/cda/drw_cda.html-command=TodayQA-questionId=3199
M2slo2cht@nospam.invalid - 31 May 2004 19:37 GMT
>This is not an invitation for anyone to get rid of their toothbrushes
>it is just an invitation for Mike and other posters to get a clue
>of how some herpes related things work

That article is six years old.  If Dr. Weil has kept up to date with
the latest reseach and information, his knowledge base and opinions,
along with many other doctors, have been updated by now. It's a slow
process but surveys among doctors show that the new research results
are slowly reaching them. And I'm not talking only about the
toothbrush comment. There were quite a few other outdated ideas in
that old article.

M2
Grant - 31 May 2004 20:06 GMT
<M2slo2cht@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
> That article is six years old.  If Dr. Weil has kept up to date with
> the latest reseach and information, his knowledge base and opinions,
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>
> M2

Thank you, M2, for responding in an unemotional and logical way.  :)

Perl, please try to research current information only.

ar
Perl Molson - 04 Jun 2004 08:35 GMT
> >This is not an invitation for anyone to get rid of their toothbrushes
> >it is just an invitation for Mike and other posters to get a clue
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>
> M2

Do you have better data, yourself?
Can you point out research data, from www.pubmed.com and such, with your claims?

Perl Molson
M.L.S. - 31 May 2004 21:02 GMT
>This is not an invitation for anyone to get rid of their toothbrushes
>it is just an invitation for Mike and other posters to get a clue
>of how some herpes related things work
>and stop using offensive language, in here.

Sorry if you're offended by my words, Perl, but there are other ways
to be offensive.  In fact, there is little in this world more
offensive than unrelenting stupidity.

In the interests of science, I've written to the pill-pusher Dr Weil
and asked him if he could back up his unsourced claims.  Truthfully,
I don't expect to hear back from him, but will give a report either
way.  So far I've gotten the "While we cannot always answer each
letter personally" auto-reply.

Mike

>Perl Molson

>The virus can live in your toothbrush and reinfect you. As soon as you
>feel a cold sore coming on, throw away the toothbrush you're using.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>toothbrush can infect the toothpaste and the herpes virus can be
>passed on to other family members, or can keep reinfecting you.

>http://www.drweil.com/app/cda/drw_cda.html-command=TodayQA-questionId=3199
Perl Molson - 04 Jun 2004 08:47 GMT
> >This is not an invitation for anyone to get rid of their toothbrushes
> >it is just an invitation for Mike and other posters to get a clue
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>
> Mike

Dr. Weil M.D. has, in my opinions, "magic powers".

I sent him one day an email regarding my back pain on my right side of
the body,
that had bothered me for quite a long time.
I've asked him if he can point out an acupuncture point or such, to
be able to treat my pain.

In a couple of days, without Mr. Weil answering to my email,
my pain was gone. I have never had such pain in my back, since.

I still believe that Mr. Weil have used some distance healing such as
reiki or smth. similar, to cure my problem.

Perl Molson

> >Perl Molson
>
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>  
> >http://www.drweil.com/app/cda/drw_cda.html-command=TodayQA-questionId=3199
M.L.S. - 13 Jun 2004 19:43 GMT

>> >This is not an invitation for anyone to get rid of their toothbrushes
>> >it is just an invitation for Mike and other posters to get a clue
>> >of how some herpes related things work
>> >and stop using offensive language, in here.

>> Sorry if you're offended by my words, Perl, but there are other ways
>> to be offensive.  In fact, there is little in this world more
>> offensive than unrelenting stupidity.

>> In the interests of science, I've written to the pill-pusher Dr Weil
>> and asked him if he could back up his unsourced claims.  Truthfully,
>> I don't expect to hear back from him, but will give a report either
>> way.  So far I've gotten the "While we cannot always answer each
>> letter personally" auto-reply.

>Dr. Weil M.D. has, in my opinions, "magic powers".

Apparently, Weil's "powers" don't lend themselves to responding to
polite and earnest emails.

After two weeks, Weil has still not responded to my questions about
herpes, toothbrushes, and toothpaste.

Perhaps he is too busy filling the vitamin and herbal pill orders
that his web site (and his carefully managed image) is set up to
sell.

>I sent him one day an email regarding my back pain on my right side of
>the body,
>that had bothered me for quite a long time.
>I've asked him if he can point out an acupuncture point or such, to
>be able to treat my pain.

>In a couple of days, without Mr. Weil answering to my email,
>my pain was gone. I have never had such pain in my back, since.

>I still believe that Mr. Weil have used some distance healing such as
>reiki or smth. similar, to cure my problem.

That's incontrovertable proof of something, that's for sure, but I'm
too polite to say just what.

Mike
Perl Molson - 14 Jun 2004 02:34 GMT
The toothbrush/toothpaste issue is no more a concern
from the perspective of what type of an answer you could've got from Mr. Weil M.D.

You can solve this problem by using removable heads toothbrushes; there
is no need to get rid of toothbrushes and toothpaste.

You just keep the removable heads in a mouthwash solution, that
will ensure the viral and bacterial death.

Whether Mr. Weil will answer or not, I don't think you
will get a better review of this issue.
Mr. Weil cannot prove for that matter, that herpes can live
in such an environment, that is, a toothbrush  of toothpaste.

Regarding the other point, who cares? I've got better, that's all that counts
for me.

Perl Molson

>  
>  
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>
> Mike
M.L.S. - 14 Jun 2004 03:43 GMT
>The toothbrush/toothpaste issue is no more a concern
>from the perspective of what type of an answer you could've got from Mr. Weil M.D.

>You can solve this problem by using removable heads toothbrushes; there
>is no need to get rid of toothbrushes and toothpaste.

>You just keep the removable heads in a mouthwash solution, that
>will ensure the viral and bacterial death.

>Whether Mr. Weil will answer or not, I don't think you
>will get a better review of this issue.
>Mr. Weil cannot prove for that matter, that herpes can live
>in such an environment, that is, a toothbrush  of toothpaste.

How many other things does Mr Weil say that he cannot prove?

Are we to grant him a lower standard of proof than we grant, say,
Glaxo-Wellcome?

Mike

>Regarding the other point, who cares? I've got better, that's all that counts
>for me.
Perl Molson - 17 Jun 2004 10:33 GMT
Sometimes,you like going overboard, isn't it?

I don't see why you've got so angry over what Mr. Weil have said
in some articles; after all, the alternative medicine is a trial and
error based medicine.

Nobody can know everything in this field. He might be right, too,
after all.

A big name such as Glaxo-Wellcome doesn't necessarily say as much, as
you would like to believe.
I reckon noone has ever discovered a cure for herpes, but
I have no doubt there are millions of people that had been cured from
herpes
during "eons" using unconventional medicine.
I know you don't believe this, but under certain condition, provided
by unconventional treatments, all the traces remained in ganglia
or any other parts of the body, can become unfunctional to
provide the formation of new virions and viruses.

You just have to hit the right formula and you have it done.

Perl Molson

> >The toothbrush/toothpaste issue is no more a concern
> >from the perspective of what type of an answer you could've got from Mr. Weil M.D.
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> >Regarding the other point, who cares? I've got better, that's all that counts
> >for me.
M.L.S. - 17 Jun 2004 15:53 GMT
>Sometimes,you like going overboard, isn't it?

>I don't see why you've got so angry over what Mr. Weil have said
>in some articles; after all, the alternative medicine is a trial and
>error based medicine.

>Nobody can know everything in this field. He might be right, too,
>after all.

As a person supposedly holding the credentials of a doctor, Weil has
a responsibility to not make statements for which he can provide no
evidence.  His failures in such regards make him look like part of
the gang of two-bit charlatans preying on the sick and credulous.

Mike

>A big name such as Glaxo-Wellcome doesn't necessarily say as much, as
>you would like to believe.
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>or any other parts of the body, can become unfunctional to
>provide the formation of new virions and viruses.

>You just have to hit the right formula and you have it done.
Pain Devine - 17 Jun 2004 20:19 GMT
I'm a 3 bit charlatan!
Perl Molson - 19 Jun 2004 00:31 GMT
> I'm a 3 bit charlatan!

After checking Mr. Weil's M.D. books, website and all the rest,
surely you will have more then 3 bits of goodies to
point out.

Until then, let's try to keep a BIT of decency in here, will you?
Did you know that this Mr. Weil has travelled in the Amazonian
jungle and has talked with the shamans over there about their way of treating
diseases? An all these after graduating from Harvard.

Perl Molson.
M.L.S. - 19 Jun 2004 02:09 GMT
>> I'm a 3 bit charlatan!

>After checking Mr. Weil's M.D. books, website and all the rest,
>surely you will have more then 3 bits of goodies to
>point out.

>Until then, let's try to keep a BIT of decency in here, will you?
>Did you know that this Mr. Weil has travelled in the Amazonian
>jungle and has talked with the shamans over there about their way of treating
>diseases? An all these after graduating from Harvard.

That explains *his* shrunken head.  Now, what's your excuse?

LOL.

Mike
Pain Devine - 19 Jun 2004 06:12 GMT
mmm.... I got a big head though. I mean, it doesn't "look" big... but
everyone keeps telling me I got a big head for some reason...

> >> I'm a 3 bit charlatan!
>
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>
> Mike
Perl Molson - 19 Jun 2004 00:25 GMT
> >Sometimes,you like going overboard, isn't it?
>  
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>
> Mike

Can you prove it that either way it's wright or wrong?

Perl Molson

> >A big name such as Glaxo-Wellcome doesn't necessarily say as much, as
> >you would like to believe.
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>  
> >You just have to hit the right formula and you have it done.
Wanda - 01 Jun 2004 06:46 GMT
> This is not an invitation for anyone to get rid of their toothbrushes
> it is just an invitation for Mike and other posters to get a clue
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> The virus can live in your toothbrush and reinfect you.

Toothpaste is like soap right? Herpes can't live on soap.

As soon as you
> feel a cold sore coming on, throw away the toothbrush you're using.
> Then, when the sore is history, get a new toothbrush once again.

What about asymptomatic shedding?

If
> you don't think it's worth the expense of three toothbrushes, think of
> how you feel when you look in the mirror at your cold sore. When
> you're preparing to brush your teeth, do not put the toothbrush up
> against the top of the toothpaste before squeezing the tube. Your
> toothbrush can infect the toothpaste and the herpes virus can be
> passed on to other family members, or can keep reinfecting you.

Same thing again with toothpaste being like soap. I mean, it just makes
sense that it can't live in toothpaste.

> http://www.drweil.com/app/cda/drw_cda.html-command=TodayQA-questionId=3199
Perl Molson - 04 Jun 2004 08:40 GMT
> > This is not an invitation for anyone to get rid of their toothbrushes
> > it is just an invitation for Mike and other posters to get a clue
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Toothpaste is like soap right? Herpes can't live on soap.

"like soap" is not soap.

>  As soon as you
> > feel a cold sore coming on, throw away the toothbrush you're using.
> > Then, when the sore is history, get a new toothbrush once again.
>
> What about asymptomatic shedding?

We go back in cirles, right?
That was my original question, that is why I wanted to find out
if herpes can live on a toothbrush, toothpaste, towel, etc, between others.

>  If
> > you don't think it's worth the expense of three toothbrushes, think of
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Same thing again with toothpaste being like soap. I mean, it just makes
> sense that it can't live in toothpaste.

I've already mentioned this before; buy removable head-toothbrushes and
keep them in a container filled with mouthwash solution.
Easy.

Perl Molson

> > http://www.drweil.com/app/cda/drw_cda.html-command=TodayQA-questionId=3199
 
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