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trying to contact SATI regarding Homeopathy - need her email address
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ritchie - 12 May 2004 18:12 GMT Hello Everyone..
I am new to the group and would love to talk to SATI or anyone else with some knowledge in regards to homeopathy and how it can be used to possibly fend off Herpes outbreaks..
I would like to start learning about DIET and natural ways to keep the outbreaks to a minimum.
I really appreciate everyones help..
Thanks so much..
Ritchie
M2slo2cht@nospam.invalid - 12 May 2004 19:07 GMT Haven't seen Sati post here in quite awhile (5/21/01 is the last one I saw), although you never know if she may be lurking or not. I assume you've already tried the email address she used here last?
M2
>Hello Everyone.. >I am new to the group and would love to talk to SATI or anyone else [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >Thanks so much.. >Ritchie Angela S. - 12 May 2004 19:40 GMT Good Luck w/your search Ritchie.
Angela : ) www.yoshi2me.com
> Hello Everyone.. > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Ritchie Grant - 13 May 2004 01:28 GMT It's been awhile since I've received an email from Sati. So I don't think I can help you there.
There are some basic things to consider about diet. First of all, some people have food triggers. That means that certain foods will bring on an outbreak. And then there is proper diet which will boost your immune system and keep you healthy.
I believe that a diet high in fruits and vegetables (raw) is the best way to go. Low fat. Minimal animal products. As few chemicals and garbage as you can muster. When you put toxins in your body, the body has to work hard to clear them out. If you avoid toxins, then the body can concentrate on healing and cleaning. :)
ar
> Hello Everyone.. > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Ritchie ritchie - 13 May 2004 14:07 GMT Ok.. thanks guys.. i will have to find another person regarding homeopathy then.. yes her old address is no longer working..
thanks for trying though!
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M.L.S. - 13 May 2004 16:22 GMT >Ok.. thanks guys.. i will have to find another person regarding >homeopathy then.. yes her old address is no longer working..
>thanks for trying though! Well, I think Sati was a faithful customer of Dynamune (I think that's it) and was friends with the owner. Search on that and you'll probably find a heap of homeopathy.
In my opinion, most, if not all, of it is a waste of money, but if that's how you like to spend your dough, have at it.
Mike
Perl Molson - 13 May 2004 18:44 GMT > Hello Everyone.. > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Ritchie Homeopathy is some sort of "out of this world" cure for many. It is eventually part of a down to earth treatment.
The principles that it seems to be behind its functionality, seem to contain concepts such as the bio-electrical transfer of signals between cells at a level non-detectable with todays apparatus, as far as I am aware of it.
Our body has its own mechanisms of self-healing; as soon as the body have lost its ability to follow through a certain pattern, due to ouside aggressors, this self healing mechanism becomes non-functional.
That is the case with herpes invasion. That continuity, flow of chi energy, bioenergy, or how else you want to call it, is crucial in maintaining the body's health.
By taking a certain homeopathic pill (or sometimes using a topical cream or a combination of both), it acts such as an electric shock upon the circuitry of the body that is malfunctioning.
As you can further understand, your body might be ( and it certainly is, for the most part), depleted of nutrients from its cells due to the disease. Thus, even a homeopathic treatment would not be sufficient to provide healing.
Nutrition/suplementation and homeopathy, are, thus, complementary.
Now, from my personal experience, in order to cure the tingling sensation associated with herpes' assymptomatic shedding activity, you take the homeopathic pill called "Rhux toxicodendron 6CH " that is disolving one pill at a time under your tongue, 3 times a day for 4 days in a row. The tingling sensation should dissapear forever.
The herpes now will still have activity at the location of the top of the spine, in case of oral herpes.
You can try now the homeopathic pill called Arnica, then Natrum Muraticum, then Sepia and then Medorrhinum, in this order each one of them, the following upcomming weeks.
I have purchased the products from www.dolisos.com just to have an ideea about the names and other issues; I am not by any means associated with the company. I just give you an example (my own) so you can have a better ideea of what I am talking about.
During this time, you can take suplements such asa Olive leaf pills, Spirulina tablets, MSM tablets, various oligoelements such as Se, Zn, vitamins, K, Cr, etc. Use some topical oils and tinctures, such as echinacea, rose oil, mellissa, thyme and lots of other essential oils.
Try some yoga postures, that will act upon the acupuncture points and meridians, making the skin healthier, more resistent. Yoga works like some sort of fine massage upon the whole organism.
Take alternate cold/warm showers, practice jogging, bicycling outdoors, drink lots of antiviral and other herbal teas, eat fruits and vegetables. Stay away from chemicals found as colorants, preservatives in lots of junk foods out there.
Benzalkonium Chloride seems to penetrate the fat cells in topical solutions, deep enough to kill the herpes in several layers.
The herpes virus cannot survive at temperatures of over 55 degree Celsius and I believe cold temperatures, as well. A hair drier handled carefully and occasional bath in 5 degree Celsius water does wonders( for genital herpes for obvious reasons). Cubes of ice applied topically is another great tip. When outside in windy cold air, use certain creams on your skin, all over your body if not only on the exposed areas. Aloe vera cream, vitamin E creams, etc.
In the end, all these combined, will cure the body from herpes. How can you tell you'll be cured?
That is easy. Once you used to have triggers such as eating high arginine containing foods or any other triggers that you have had in the past. Try at a "full scale dosagge" of this past triggers. When you've tried them all for a whole year and there will be no herpes signs, that means you can already say, herpes is history for you. That's my case and I have offered enough tips to start your cure.
Depending upon your own physical and mental constitution, a little variation will eventually apply in your case. Use your intuition to develop such a correction from my own practical ideeas.
Cheers,
Perl Molson.
M.L.S. - 13 May 2004 18:58 GMT <snips>
>you take the homeopathic pill called "Rhux toxicodendron 6CH " >that is disolving one pill at a time under your tongue, 3 times >a day for 4 days in a row.
>You can try now the homeopathic pill called Arnica, then Natrum >Muraticum, then Sepia and then Medorrhinum, in this order each >one of them, the following upcomming weeks.
>During this time, you can take suplements such asa Olive leaf >pills, Spirulina tablets, MSM tablets, various oligoelements >such as Se, Zn, vitamins, K, Cr, etc.
>Use some topical oils and tinctures, such as echinacea, rose >oil, mellissa, thyme and lots of other essential oils. OR, if you don't have a suitcase to haul your local healthnut food store around with you, get your doctor to prescribe Valtrex, and pop a couple pills when you feel the tingling of prodrome coming on.
>and occasional bath in 5 degree Celsius water does wonders( for >genital >herpes for obvious reasons).
>Cubes of ice applied topically is another great tip. These, I wouldn't recommend, but others may find them swell.
Mike Soja
Perl Molson - 15 May 2004 19:33 GMT > <snips> > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > store around with you, get your doctor to prescribe Valtrex, and pop > a couple pills when you feel the tingling of prodrome coming on. It adds up in the end to several hundred bucks, in comparison, just taking Acyclovir for a year can cost around a thousand bucks, while those health products have nutritional value, as well. You probably realised that, on top of your prescription drugs have to eat too. Oh, and don't forget to avoid eating all the foods that have high arginine content. In my case, on contrary, I eat/drink all the foods I feel like eating, including tons nuts, seeds, orange juice or any other foods that you avoid consumming, I suppose.
Since yourself do not take Acyclovir or Valtrex, as you've said before, you're just trying to sell it, right?.
There is the Acyclovir/Valtrex mafia out there, folks that make fortunes by fooling people in bying this stuff and they do all they can to keep people from bringing up different treatments.
Acyclovir does not work as treatment for oral herpes and on top of that, I was infected with a herpes virus from a female that have taken prescription drugs such as Acyclovir. That means that the herpes had overruled the prescription drugs' defence mechanism.
> >and occasional bath in 5 degree Celsius water does wonders( for > >genital [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > These, I wouldn't recommend, but others may find them swell. It never happened to me, that is, to swell after using ice cubes.
Perl Molson
> Mike Soja Angela S. - 16 May 2004 05:42 GMT > Acyclovir does not work as treatment for oral herpes and > on top of that, I was infected with a herpes virus from a female > that have taken prescription drugs such as Acyclovir. That means that > the herpes had overruled the prescription drugs' defence mechanism. Who said that herpes antivirals do not work as a treatment for oral herpes?
Nobody (including the drug companies) have ever stated that it's not possible to pass herpes while taking a herpes anti-viral. In fact - even the Valtrex commercial says that it's still possible to pass herpes.
Angela : ) www.yoshi2me.com
Perl Molson - 17 May 2004 19:55 GMT > > Acyclovir does not work as treatment for oral herpes and > > on top of that, I was infected with a herpes virus from a female > > that have taken prescription drugs such as Acyclovir. That means that > > the herpes had overruled the prescription drugs' defence mechanism. > > Who said that herpes antivirals do not work as a treatment for oral herpes? I've read about it; I will bring in here the study articles sometime.
> Nobody (including the drug companies) have ever stated that it's not > possible to pass herpes while taking a herpes anti-viral. In fact - even the > Valtrex commercial says that it's still possible to pass herpes. You have posted, together with other posters, some articles about how Valtrex will cut down the transmission. Now you have a different story?
Perl Molson
> Angela : ) > www.yoshi2me.com Grant - 17 May 2004 22:42 GMT Perl,
Valtrex, etc, cuts down on transmission. But the key phrase is "cuts down." It does not eliminate transmission. No one here has ever stated that it will eliminate transmission.
ar
> > > Acyclovir does not work as treatment for oral herpes and > > > on top of that, I was infected with a herpes virus from a female [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Angela : ) > > www.yoshi2me.com
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