What kind of laundry detergent are you using? I would switch immediately to
a sensitive skin detergent from the health food store. I would also not use
fabric softener - they are notoriously bad for people with skin conditions.
Use one of those "free" dryer sheets instead.
ar
> I've been in an outbreak for over 2 months now and have made zero
> progress.
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> How long could this go on? Could it by any chance last forever?
> Any other experiences similar? Any thoughts or tips? Meds?
Oh, and check your diet. Are you taking protein powders or other
supplements that might give you more arginine?
ar
> I've been in an outbreak for over 2 months now and have made zero
> progress.
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> How long could this go on? Could it by any chance last forever?
> Any other experiences similar? Any thoughts or tips? Meds?
>I've been in an outbreak for over 2 months now and have made zero
>progress.
How long have you been infected with hsv?
How long does your typical outbreak last?
Are you male? or female?
>It's not the worst in the world. I only have tingling and redness.
>No blisters, discharge or any real pain at all.
It's past time to have it checked by a doctor. Just because you have
herpes, doesn't mean you're not subject to a myriad of other causes of
symptoms like these. If your symptoms aren't responding at all to
antivirals, I would suspect you're dealing with something else. A
bacterial infection perhaps. Maybe yeast infection <shrug> who knows.
Not saying it can't be herp but it's time to get a culture done to
rule out other possibilities.
>But any sexual contact equals more redness and discomfort for the next
>few hours.
What about your partner? Does he/she have any symptoms?
>How long could this go on?
Depends on what's causing it.
>Could it by any chance last forever?
Not if it's herpes.
But if it's caused by something else and you don't find out what it is
and do something about it, it's anybody's guess. Get to a doc or a
clinic and have them run a culture type test on it. In this case, a
blood test won't tell you what's causing those particular symptoms.
>Any other experiences similar?
We've had posters here before who were convinced beyond all doubt that
they had herpes, only to find they were wrong once they were tested.
An hsv outbreak lasting two month is uncommon. Even an initial
outbreak. Not impossible, but uncommon. On the other hand, a rash
caused by something else can happen to anyone including herpsters.
>Any thoughts or tips? Meds?
Ar has given you some really good ideas for dealing with herp as well
as other possible causes. But considering the location of your
symptoms, times up for experimentation. I suggest getting a culture
done asap to see for sure what you're dealing with.
M2
cdc_1977 - 03 Mar 2004 04:56 GMT
Well my results came back with me having HSV2 about 2 months ago. (Newly inf)
Although, I've had symptoms for about 3 months.
It was just red for the 1st month.
I'm male and have laid off protein shakes since I found out.
I use snuggles fabric sheets so I'll lay off of that for a while.
Any chance that my body just doesn't respond to antivirals?
I'm afraid to quit the meds just for the fear of it getting worse...
Is there a chance that the meds are another trigger?
I know it sounds silly but this is lasting forever for my first outbreak.
Grant - 03 Mar 2004 10:44 GMT
Actually, since this is your first outbreak, it might just be the way it is
for you now. Some people don't respond to the meds but you might not have
given any of them enough time to work?
But, you should talk to the doc about making sure that you don't also have a
yeast infection or something else along with the herpes.
Take care,
ar
> Well my results came back with me having HSV2 about 2 months ago. (Newly inf)
> Although, I've had symptoms for about 3 months.
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> Is there a chance that the meds are another trigger?
> I know it sounds silly but this is lasting forever for my first outbreak.
M2slo2cht@nospam.invalid - 03 Mar 2004 16:05 GMT
>Well my results came back with me having HSV2 about 2 months ago.
What type test was used for your diagnosis? Culture? Blood test?
Other?
>Although, I've had symptoms for about 3 months.
>It was just red for the 1st month.
<snip>
>Any chance that my body just doesn't respond to antivirals?
Not likely but not totally out of the realm of possibility either.
>I'm afraid to quit the meds just for the fear of it getting worse...
That'd be up to you but still, one course of action might be to let
the outbreak run it's course without the meds just so you'll know what
you're dealing with. Even a bad outbreak for guys isn't all that
debilitating ... at least not like it can be for the ladies ... main
problem is, sex goes out the window during that time which,
emotionally, can be a kick in the butt. But if you can hang with it,
knowing things will get better over time (meaning future outbreaks
less severe and less frequent), it might give you an idea what sort of
effect the antivirals are (or not) having. We're not dealing with life
and death here so it's ok to experiment a little if you're up to it.
Which antiviral are you taking?
How often (how many times per day)?
And what dosage (in milligrams)?
How long have you been taking them (since you were diagnosed two
months ago? ... or before that? ... or just recently?)
And has this outbreak been continuous for the whole three months?? Or
was there a break between the 1st month (just redness) and the next 2
months (redness plus tingling)?
>Is there a chance that the meds are another trigger?
I've heard of many different triggers but antivirals would be a new
one on me. Even minor side effects from antivirals are not all that
common.
>I know it sounds silly but this is lasting forever for my first outbreak.
Not really silly. Herpes can be daunting for a newbie. But believe me,
over time you'll figure out how it will affect you and it may not be
the way it affects other people. But you'll eventually learn your
triggers etc. and deal with it without much problem. Everybody's
different though.
Ar and I are thinking the same thing I think. There may be something
in addition to herpes going on with you. So especially if your
diagnosis was by blood test, the first thing I'd suggest is have a
culture done to make sure your symptoms are being caused by hsv and
not something else. Wouldn't surprise me at all if that were the case.
M2
cdc_1977 - 04 Mar 2004 05:14 GMT
> What type test was used for your diagnosis? Culture? Blood test?
> Other?
Blood Test.
> Which antiviral are you taking?
Acyclovir 400MG for 15 days. Was on 500 MGValtrex for a month and a half.
All after being diagnosed.
> How often (how many times per day)?
2
> And has this outbreak been continuous for the whole three months?? Or
> was there a break between the 1st month (just redness) and the next 2
> months (redness plus tingling)?
Both for 2 months. Before that just redness.
M2slo2cht@nospam.invalid - 04 Mar 2004 13:49 GMT
>> What type test was used for your diagnosis? Culture? Blood test?
>> Other?
>Blood Test.
An accurate blood test can tell you whether or not you're infected,
but it can't point to *where* you're infected. Nor can it tell you
which symptoms, if any, it's causing. So in a case such as yours (no
"classic" symptoms to go by), only a *negative* can be definitive (in
that it could rule out herpes as the cause). In your case though, a
positive test doesn't prove beyond doubt that your symptoms are herpes
related. And in fact, since your symptoms aren't acting like herpes
(not clearing up after 3 months, not responding to antivirals), you're
hunt for a diagnosis is almost back to square one. At this point
herpes is only one of many possible causes of the symptoms. Don't
forget, the overwhelming majority of people who test positive (blood
test) for herpes, never show noticeable symptoms. You could easily be
among that group. Doesn't mean you can't pick up some other infection
that causes the kind of symptoms you're showing though. So before
you're convinced your symptoms are caused by herpes, go back to the
doc/clinic/whatever, and ask for a culture type test. Without classic
visual herpes symptoms, that's the only way you're going to be able to
nail down the cause. Now here's the bad news. Culture type tests are
notorious for false negatives, so be aware of that. Their positives
are accurate though and it just might turn up a positive result for
something other than herpes.
Anyhow, that's my suggestion at this point. I'm not a doctor by the
way, just a guy who's seen symptoms misdiagnosed many times.
M2
scrtlv - 07 Mar 2004 19:31 GMT
This is pretty much the boat I am in. Two doctors said it did not look
like herpes. It still has not cleared up after a 4 weeks. One set of
red spots started to clear up just as new pinprick sized blisters
started to appear. My blood test returned positive for herpes. My
viral culture comes in Tuesday. Even that can be a false negative if
it is in fact negative. I was put on Valtrex. Its been 5 days now and
its helping a little, but the tiny blisters are still very much there.
That it is helping might in fact be completely coincidental.
There is nothing worse about this than not knowing. Well other than
that there is SOMETHING going on with my scrotum skin.
Is it normal to get herpes sores in the scrotum and not at all on the
penis?
> An accurate blood test can tell you whether or not you're infected,
> but it can't point to *where* you're infected. Nor can it tell you
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> are accurate though and it just might turn up a positive result for
> something other than herpes.
M2slo2cht@nospam.invalid - 07 Mar 2004 21:56 GMT
On 7 Mar 2004 11:31:40 -0800, scrt_lv wrote:
>Is it normal to get herpes sores in the scrotum and not at all on the
>penis?
Depends on your definition of "normal" I suppose. It doesn't fit the
"classic textbook" case, but then *most* cases don't fit it ... which
is why Herpes is soooo difficult to diagnose visually (except in the
"classic textbook" cases ... which are the minority). An outbreak
anywhere in the boxer shorts region is possible though so, although a
scrotum outbreak might not be considered "normal", it's certainly not
unheard of either.
M2
cdc_1977 - 08 Mar 2004 06:10 GMT
From what I read, blood tests are highly accurate. Should I even
bothered getting tested again? I just wanted to know if any others out
there are like me?
If this goes on for more than 3 months I'm gonna be really worried!!
I am starting to get some blisters now. Also, this all just confined
to the head of my penis, nowhere else. And there is no real pain.
This really sux but I'm starting to wonder if I should kick the meds
since I'm not improving. Anyone improved after kicking the meds?
monique - 22 Mar 2004 07:12 GMT
what kind of soap powder are you using?
or any kind of soap for your body?
try cortisone cream
moniquew
> From what I read, blood tests are highly accurate. Should I even
> bothered getting tested again? I just wanted to know if any others out
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> This really sux but I'm starting to wonder if I should kick the meds
> since I'm not improving. Anyone improved after kicking the meds?
scrtlv - 08 Mar 2004 21:16 GMT
> Depends on your definition of "normal" I suppose. It doesn't fit the
> "classic textbook" case, but then *most* cases don't fit it ... which
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> scrotum outbreak might not be considered "normal", it's certainly not
> unheard of either.
My blood test showed positive for HSV. The valtrex is not clearing it
up completely but helping (although this can be coincidental). Two
doctors said it did not look like HSV. If the viral culture comes back
negative then the only way to know what I am dealing with here is if I
have a second outbreak? And even then its not 100% certain.
This has already lasted forever. And if it is HSV i hate that it will
truly last forever.
M2slo2cht@nospam.invalid - 08 Mar 2004 21:58 GMT
On 8 Mar 2004 13:16:26 -0800, scrt_lv wrote:
>If the viral culture comes back
>negative then the only way to know what I am dealing with here is if I
>have a second outbreak?
Not necessarily.
Ideally, they'll use that culture to test for everything under the sun
in addition to herpes, and *something* will turn up positive. At that
point you'll have your diagnosis for the rash. Hopefully it'll be some
sort of bacterial infection that's easily treated. Believe me, we've
seen that very scenario here before. Granted, you'll still be positive
for asymptomatic Herpes but that'll be a separate issue from the rash
you're experiencing. On the other hand if it's positive for herpes, at
least you'll know for sure what you're dealing with. And, btw, it
won't last forever. But we're speculating here. Go get tested.
M2
monique - 22 Mar 2004 07:09 GMT
ask the doctor to check for impetigo
moniquew
> This is pretty much the boat I am in. Two doctors said it did not look
> like herpes. It still has not cleared up after a 4 weeks. One set of
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> > are accurate though and it just might turn up a positive result for
> > something other than herpes.