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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Herpes / February 2004The Earth is flat
and there is no cure for herpes simplex virus. Welcome to the 'th century...( mentality of the 14'th Century) P.S. Don't forget to take the *vir/ valtrex pills (even if you don't have any other incurable diseases such as AIDS). Mentality of a pushy salesmen of the 21'th Century), what a comination, huh? That was Angela & Co, type of talks. Over. Now let's move on, to the right track. Cure for herpes simplex virus, folks, is achieved, under the following situation: The infection will produce viruses and traces of viruses situated along the neuronal paths, in the trigerminal ganglia and respectively sacral ganglia for type 1 and 2 infection and also other location of the viruses can be at the skin-mucus area and in between these areas. The most important thing to know is that there are at least, to my knowledge, 3 types of immunity response involved in the defence against the virus. The virus will be defited only in the situation when all these 3 immunity factors will be activated simultaneously for a period of time, maybe around a few months, rather. In order to achieve such a bodily response, the body needs to be provided with a variety of minerals, oligoelements, chlorophil, enzymes, immune enhancers, antivirals, all in natural forms. Take supplements, drink tons of herbal tea, practice lots of exercise( that helps to deal with the general health), eat lots of arginine containing foods that will help the proper immune functioning of our body. Make sure you take suplements such as garlic, Primerose Oil, Flax seed oil, Omega 3 containing other types of oils, kelp, spirulina, mushrooms like reishy or other immune enhancing types, grape seed, MSM (metil gluconil methane approx) lots of herbal tea such as green tea, Saint John's Wort, echinacea, elder berries and other wild fruits of a wide variety, pepermint family such as balm. Keep area dry using a hair drier, so that the hot temperature of 50 degree Celsius will kill all the viruses on the upper levels. Use a topical Selenium and Zinc paste, from a couple of pills, as well as pure essential oils for skin help. Use topical creams with benzalconium chloride to kill deep the viruses on the skin areas. Eat all sorts of nuts and seeds; they are great Vitamins A, E, B complex, C, D, Magnezium, Cromium. For oral (labial) herpes, keep your tooth brush in mouthwash with alcohol. Use aloe vera plant as a skin helper, as long as vitamin E. Once you've provided your body with such a great help, in time, the 3 or such types of immune components will overcome the viral infection at all levels, so that the viruses will be practically drained out of the body in totality, its final ability to get transported along the regular paths will be forever interrupted. A very important issue: don't worry about stress, factors such as wind, cold, ultraviolet light, humidity and about consuming high arginine containing foods; these are temporary problems and you will become stronger by the passage of time. In other words what doesn't kill you it makes you stronger, in the case of herpes simplex virus it is very true this statement. Of course, folks that have incurable diseases, you should consult your doctor for the prescriptions such as acyclovir, valtrex, zovirax. Good health to you, Perl Molson >and there is no cure for herpes simplex virus. >Welcome to the 'th century...( mentality of the 14'th Century) Welcome to Perl's Medieval House of Superstition. >P.S. Don't forget to take the *vir/ valtrex pills (even if you >don't have any other incurable diseases such as AIDS). >Mentality of a pushy salesmen of the 21'th Century), what a >comination, huh? Scientific studies show that the anti-virals work. Why not just come out of the closet, Perl, and unequivocally state that you don't believe in Science? >That was Angela & Co, type of talks. >Over. >Now let's move on, to the right track. >Cure for herpes simplex virus, folks, is achieved, >under the following situation: As of February 18, 2004, a cure for Herpes simplex is not "achieved" under any situation. I'm sure that some type of vaccine, or outright cure, will be developed in the future, but I'm willing to bet it won't be with the type of thinking that Perl demonstrates. >The infection will produce viruses and traces of viruses >situated along the neuronal paths, in the trigerminal ganglia and >respectively sacral ganglia for type 1 and 2 infection and >also other location of the viruses can be at the skin-mucus area and >in between these areas. >The most important thing to know is that there are at least, to my >knowledge, >3 types of immunity response involved in the defence against the >virus. >The virus will be defited only in the situation when all these 3 >immunity >factors will be activated simultaneously for a period of time, maybe >around a few months, rather. >In order to achieve such a bodily response, the body needs to be >provided with a variety of minerals, oligoelements, chlorophil, >enzymes, immune enhancers, antivirals, all in natural forms. Perl arbitrarily rejects "unnatural" treatments, and yet unnatural compounds like Acyclovir have done more to relieve the discomfort of herpes outbreaks than all the "natural" medicines in the world combined. >Take supplements, drink tons of herbal tea, practice lots of exercise( >that helps to deal with the general health), eat lots of arginine >containing >foods that will help the proper immune functioning of our body. Actually, it's thought that arginine promotes herpes outbreaks. The common wisdom is that L-lysine, another amino acid, displaces arginine and helps inhibit the herpes replication cycle. As usual, Perl gets it completely wrong. >Make sure you take suplements such as garlic, Primerose Oil, Flax seed >oil, [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >elder berries and other wild fruits of a wide variety, pepermint >family such as balm. >Keep area dry using a hair drier, so that the hot temperature >of 50 degree Celsius will kill all the viruses on the upper levels. >Use a topical Selenium and Zinc paste, from a couple of pills, >as well as pure essential oils for skin help. >Use topical creams with benzalconium chloride to kill deep the viruses >on the skin areas. >Eat all sorts of nuts and seeds; they are great Again, Perl seems to be giving out misinformation just for the fun of it. Nuts, at least, are thought to be one of the trigger foods for herpes outbreaks. If you have a high number of outbreaks, try cutting nuts and other high arginine food out of your diet. Here's a link to a lysine/arginine food ratio table: http://www.herpes.com/Nutrition.shtml >Vitamins A, E, B complex, C, D, Magnezium, Cromium. >For oral (labial) herpes, keep your tooth brush in mouthwash with >alcohol. >Use aloe vera plant as a skin helper, as long as vitamin E. >Once you've provided your body with such a great help, in time, >the 3 or such types of immune components will overcome the >viral infection at all levels, so that the viruses will be practically >drained out of the body in totality, its final ability to get >transported >along the regular paths will be forever interrupted. Perl is lying. >A very important issue: >don't worry about stress, factors such as wind, cold, ultraviolet [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >in >the case of herpes simplex virus it is very true this statement. Your "what doesn't kill you it makes you stronger" is exactly the kind of mumbo jumbo that would have been a big hit back in the superstitious Dark Ages. Fortunately, most people these days don't have to rely on cheap slogans for their health. >Of course, folks that have incurable diseases, you should consult your >doctor for the prescriptions such as acyclovir, valtrex, zovirax. >Good health to you, >Perl Molson Shut up and go away, Perl. Mike Just in case anyone new is trawling the site and getting exited at the prospect of a cure I thought I had better add that I'm with Mike on this one; although I would probably describe Perl as worryingly misguided rather than lying. Of course some people are lucky enough to stop having outbreaks but that doesn't equal a cure. I have HSV 1 Genitally and was OB free for two and a half years after my first introduction to the joy that is Herpes. In fact I thought of myself as "cured"; then one day the virus resurfaced to let me know it had just been taking a rest. By supporting your immune system you may be able to suppress any obvious symptoms, but until that vaccine comes along (and don't hold your breath) you have a companion for life. But its nothing to be ashamed of, in fact in many ways I think that the experience has made me a better person. I am certainly less judgemental and more tolerant than I used to be. And I now practise safe sex all the time, not just when sober and feeling responsible! Spud >Just in case anyone new is trawling the site and getting exited at the >prospect of a cure I thought I had better add that I'm with Mike on this >one; although I would probably describe Perl as worryingly misguided rather >than lying. Thanks for the support, but Perl has been here too long, and been corrected too many times by too many people to not know the truth. >Of course some people are lucky enough to stop having outbreaks but that >doesn't equal a cure. Most people who have herpes will never have an outbreak, or will have outbreaks that are so mild as to be unnoticed or mistaken for something else. People with severe reactions to the disease are in the minority. And some people never, ever get herpes, even after multiple exposures, just like large numbers of people never got the bubonic plague! >I have HSV 1 Genitally and was OB free for two and a half years after my >first introduction to the joy that is Herpes. In fact I thought of myself as >"cured"; then one day the virus resurfaced to let me know it had just been >taking a rest. >By supporting your immune system you may be able to suppress any obvious >symptoms, but until that vaccine comes along (and don't hold your breath) >you have a companion for life. But its nothing to be ashamed of, in fact in >many ways I think that the experience has made me a better person. I am >certainly less judgemental and more tolerant than I used to be. And I now >practise safe sex all the time, not just when sober and feeling responsible! I used to think herpes made me less judgemental and more tolerant, too, but I seem to have passed through that phase. ;-) But seriously, I know what you mean. Having herpes forced me to reassess the way I establish relationships, helped me focus on the things that are important, and put in perspective the things that are less so >Spud Thanks, Spud, for joining in. Take care, Mike > >Just in case anyone new is trawling the site and getting exited at the > >prospect of a cure I thought I had better add that I'm with Mike on this [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >Of course some people are lucky enough to stop having outbreaks but that > >doesn't equal a cure. In my case, where I try to continuously trigger outbreaks, the cure is very easy to spot by the absence of any signs of an outbreak. To give you an example, try yourself to have your breakfast made or a cup of espresso coffee and together with it, a bowl of mixed nuts. Have this until the day where you get an OB and you will understand my point. After you get over with it, start taking cold showers at any time of the day and night. Open the window in the winter and let the cold current of air getting on your face (well, provided you live in a cold climate or at least where it is cold enough in the winter, with under freezing point temperatures). > Most people who have herpes will never have an outbreak, or will > have outbreaks that are so mild as to be unnoticed or mistaken for > something else. People with severe reactions to the disease are in > the minority. Oh, yeah, you bet they are; but we are that minority! > And some people never, ever get herpes, even after multiple > exposures, just like large numbers of people never got the bubonic > plague! Oh yeah? How do you explain that one? Genetical traits? Immunity? If so, why not believe in a cure, huh? Have you heared of those prostitutes from some african countries that are immune to AIDS? And AIDS is a way more complex diseases than herpes. > >I have HSV 1 Genitally and was OB free for two and a half years after my > >first introduction to the joy that is Herpes. In fact I thought of myself as > >"cured"; then one day the virus resurfaced to let me know it had just been > >taking a rest. > Guess what? Maybe you've been reinfected. Have you thought of that one? Herpes simplex is highly contagious, you know that, of course. > >By supporting your immune system you may be able to suppress any obvious > >symptoms, but until that vaccine comes along (and don't hold your breath) > >you have a companion for life. Like I've recently said, it is possible to be more than just a suppresion of the visible symptoms. Once the stimulation of the virus, off the ganglia, nerves and all the other location where it remains usually, the so called traces of virus may remain inable to become new viruses or may be actually, exiting the body in totality; do you, Mike, know what traces are left in the body? You bet you don't! So why so convinced of it? But its nothing to be ashamed of, in fact in > >many ways I think that the experience has made me a better person. Its great it is only herpes, huh? I am > >certainly less judgemental and more tolerant than I used to be. Of course. And I now > >practise safe sex all the time, not just when sober and feeling responsible! I think I know how you feel. I practice safe sex, too! And it sucks! > I used to think herpes made me less judgemental and more tolerant, > too, but I seem to have passed through that phase. ;-) But [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Mike I think this person has the same thing I do, the most mild form of the virus. I have one of those outbreaks only every few months and sometimes the longest I can remember is about 6 months without. I keep myself at a low lever of stress, had it my entire life and don't function well without it. When this person realizes, if not in complete denial of facts and the obvious pain resulting from their next OB you will never hear from him/her again. > snipola... deleted useless crap. Oh sure Perl ..... try and convince us that there are ways to wipe out the virus completely from your body. Sure thing Perl ...... glad to see you keeping an open mind here and letting each person decide for themselves what works best for them ...... Good Luck looking finding the answer to wiping out herpes from the body. You know ..... the interesting thing about your posts Perl is that they are completely "self" driven with you in the drivers seat. The only problem is that you keep driving off the cliff. You must be a cat with lots of lives to spare. Why in the heck do you continue to attempt to convince people that there is a way to wipe out herpes? If there is a way then why haven't you "cured" yourself so you can stop posting to the herpes message board? Angela www.yoshi2me.com > and there is no cure for herpes simplex virus. > [quoted text clipped - 88 lines] > Good health to you, > Perl Molson > Oh sure Perl ..... try and convince us that there are ways to wipe out the > virus completely from your body. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Angela > www.yoshi2me.com Well, I can understand why you're so willing, to see me off a cliff ;O) I can understand wherefrom some paychecks are comming from and that's about it right? Anyway, I am not trying to convince anybody in here or elsewhere about the eventual possibility of wipping out herpes from the body. First of all, posting here it kind of helps me having a better focus on the issues, considering the corrections made occasionally by folks like Tim, Mike (on several occasions) or others ( unfortunatelly I have to deal with distractions from the topic also, like yours). You are an extremely aggresive poster, after calling me all sorts of names, together with others, from "dumb", "idiot", "spammer", "stupid", telling everyone to ignore me, now wishing me DEATH, "indirectly", it tells a lot about your worries regarding new customer potential redirected o a better safer track without the need to use your harmful, ineffective medication. Yes, I feel, virtually, like Giordano Bruno of herpes. I have already been set on flames. But yes, I will have my rebirth, like the phoenix bird, from the A.S.H.es; and I will not take anymore flame bites so you won't persuade others to shoot me down in flames any longer. Now a legend, Perl Molson > > and there is no cure for herpes simplex virus. > > [quoted text clipped - 88 lines] > > Good health to you, > > Perl Molson Perl, Angela doesn't take any money from anyone. So your suggestions that she is losing customers if there is a cure for herpes is ridiculous. ar > > Oh sure Perl ..... try and convince us that there are ways to wipe out the > > virus completely from your body. [quoted text clipped - 137 lines] > > > Good health to you, > > > Perl Molson Perl I'm pretty sure that no one here wishes you any harm. Speaking for myself however I don't think that a sample of 1 constitutes proof of anything so whilst I am glad, for you, that you are symptom free please remember that for the other 99.9999999% of us this is a serious issue that affects our lives and needs dealing with. My concerns over your postings have nothing to do with the fact that I believe that you are just plain wrong (and a sneaking suspicion that you are actually a troll); I do worry that you will misinform the recently infected, who are the very people that this site helps the most. The second is that you could convince someone who is symptom free that they are "cured" and as a result inadvertantly contribute to the further spread of this virus. So, from someone who has been off this site for two years, has no axe to grind and does not take sides can I respectfully suggest that you create a new Newsgroup. "alt. herpes-cured" or something similar will do. Then post to your hearts content. Alternatively substantiate your claims. Proof such as two Western Blot Test one showing HSV1 or 2, the other clear and with "evidence" that they come from the same person (and that the clear sample is later than the first) and I will review my position. In the meantime........ Well you are hearing the message time to listen. Spud |
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