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cdc_1977 - 16 Jan 2004 06:27 GMT
I just found out I have herpes and have been on Acyclovir 200MG for
one week.

My symptoms are red irritation, tingling and minor blisters although I
feel as if they will worsen. The pain isn't that bad but I know sex is
out of the question for fear of a worse OB. I've also noticed my neck
has been hurting a lot lately.
Now this may be stress but should this be getting progressively worse?
This had been going on for a month now and still is but I've only been
on the meds for a week. Should this be getting better with the meds or
do I need to wait for it to kick in after a couple of weeks/months?
I have read up a lot on this but wanted to get personal responses and
recommendations of treatment.
This is driving me crazy and I just want to treat it!!!
I've also read Garlic Oil is great for this and was wondering if
anyone has done this?

Thanks!
Grant - 16 Jan 2004 10:44 GMT
Hi,

Sorry to hear about your recent diagnosis.

I can't really comment on the meds because I don't take them.  However, you
may need a stronger strength??  Others here will know more about them.

The really basic truth about herpes is that it can be hell when you first
get it.  But it does get better.  I don't really think it matters if you
take the meds, take supplements, etc, because the only thing that works
against herpes is your own immune system.  And your body has a learning
curve where herpes is concerned and that means it takes time.  As your body
gets better at identifying the virus and builds up more antibodies, then
your outbreaks will become less frequent and less severe (in most cases).
The first year can be troublesome but do know that it will get better.

In the meantime, help your body by working on your immune system.  Change
your diet if you need to - cut out the chemicals and crap you may eat and
eat whole foods with lots of fruits and veggies.  Exercise and get plenty of
rest.  Taking immune boosters may not do the trick because you don't want to
stress your body out, you want it to heal.  Stress is bad for herpes, too.
:)

The meds you are taking may take a little while to show their effect.  But
keep taking them if you want to.  They help many people.  Also, there are
different types of meds and some do better on one than on the other.

Good luck.
ar

> I just found out I have herpes and have been on Acyclovir 200MG for
> one week.
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>
> Thanks!
M.L.S. - 16 Jan 2004 15:53 GMT
>I just found out I have herpes and have been on Acyclovir 200MG for
>one week.

>My symptoms are red irritation, tingling and minor blisters although I
>feel as if they will worsen. The pain isn't that bad but I know sex is
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>I've also read Garlic Oil is great for this and was wondering if
>anyone has done this?

>Thanks!

Your very first, or Primary, outbreak can be quite prolonged, and be
quite severe in the variety of symptoms it throws up.  I presume,
since you've got a perscription, that you've been to a doctor and that
he's aware of your present circumstances.

As far as the Acyclovir goes, it begins to work on the virus almost
immediately, so it's not a matter of waiting for it to kick in or to
completely run its course, like the way you would with antibiotics.

But I wonder about the 200mg.  I'm not sure but that seems a little
low for a daily dose.  So maybe you should talk to your Doc about
that, especially if your OB has lasted as long as you say it has.

Hope that helps,

Mike
Angela - 16 Jan 2004 21:04 GMT
> Now this may be stress but should this be getting progressively worse?

Since you are on a good antiviral medication for herpes then things should
improve . . . you will need to be patient.

> This had been going on for a month now and still is but I've only been
> on the meds for a week.

Since you have only been on the meds for a week you will need to be patient.
Keep track of how much you are taking . . . that way if you need to increase
your dosage later on you will know with the help of your doctor.

How were you tested for herpes?

> I have read up a lot on this but wanted to get personal responses and
> recommendations of treatment.

You can read how I handled my herpes diagnosis by checking out my herpes
biography here:
http://www.yoshi2me.com/page13.html.

Hope this helps,

Angela
www.yoshi2me.com
r. - 18 Jan 2004 00:57 GMT
It seems that ar, Mike and Angela have all answered basically all the
same stuff I would say.  

The only other thing I have to offer is a tidbit I found when doing
some research on Valtrex (I know you are not taking it....) and I
found the same thing on Acyclovir.

"There is no information about the efficacy of therapy initiated more
than 24 hours after onset of signs and symptoms. "

FROM:  http://www.rxlist.com/cgi/generic/acyclo_ids.htm

The first outbreaks sucks, to be sure....

Hang in there....consider trying Valtrex maybe if you find that the
other is not working well....and try to ease up on the stress in your
life.  (I know, Herpes doesn't make that any easier).

R.

>I just found out I have herpes and have been on Acyclovir 200MG for
>one week.
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>
>Thanks!
cdc_1977 - 19 Jan 2004 01:58 GMT
Thank you all for your responses. I'm gonna go with a different med.
I've been really stressed with work and I think this contributing to
the symptoms. Which has also made my body kinda tired. So working out
has been put on hold fearing an injury or furthering my outbreaks.

Has anyone tried the garlic oil treatment though?
Grant - 19 Jan 2004 10:38 GMT
Garlic is a natural antibiotic.  It won't do much for a virus.

ar

> Thank you all for your responses. I'm gonna go with a different med.
> I've been really stressed with work and I think this contributing to
> the symptoms. Which has also made my body kinda tired. So working out
> has been put on hold fearing an injury or furthering my outbreaks.
>
> Has anyone tried the garlic oil treatment though?
cdc_1977 - 20 Jan 2004 04:29 GMT
Well I found this and it got me thinking.

http://www.powerattunements.com/herp.html

I'm trying to pursue all avenues looking for an answer and when none
of the meds help I gotta think outside of the box. I recently started
Valtrex and both have helped me little.....

I hate to be guinnea pig if no one's tried it. But I will ask my
doctor about this very soon...

What do you guys think?
M.L.S. - 20 Jan 2004 05:47 GMT
>Well I found this and it got me thinking.

>http://www.powerattunements.com/herp.html

>I'm trying to pursue all avenues looking for an answer and when none
>of the meds help I gotta think outside of the box. I recently started
>Valtrex and both have helped me little.....

>I hate to be guinnea pig if no one's tried it. But I will ask my
>doctor about this very soon...

>What do you guys think?

I think that guy is a California happy head, but I might be a sour
puss, too.  ;-)

I think garlic does you better on the inside than the outside, but if
you want to try a garlic poultice that's up to you.  However, if you
are going to make your own garlic infusions you should make small
batches and use them within a week or two.

Take these links to heart:

http://www.fda.gov/bbs/topics/NEWS/NEW00120.html
http://www.foodpres.com/oil.htm
http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/english/iyh/food/garlic.html

Take care,

Mike
Grant - 20 Jan 2004 10:54 GMT
Okay.  This guy says he cured herpes.  That's a blatant lie.  There is no
cure.  Don't you think that if there was an actual cure that everyone would
be using it?  So, we have established that he is a lier.

Next, the key to his "cures" is in one paragraph of his text.  He said that
the people whose herpes didn't come back made changes in their entire
lifestyle: eating better, exercising, relaxing, etc.  That's the answer
right there and it's what I've been saying on this group.  For many people,
just getting healthy will cut down on outbreaks tremendously.  But it is NOT
a cure.  These people in that man's "study" still have herpes.  But they
eliminated their triggers.  I know one man who has an outbreak almost
immediately after drinking anything with caffeine in it.  Eliminate the
caffeine and voila!  He's "cured."

If you want to give it a try, then go ahead but don't spend a lot of money
on anyone's garbage that they are selling you.  Eat right.  Exercise.  Get
plenty of rest.  Eliminate triggers.  And I don't charge for that advice.
:)

ar

> Well I found this and it got me thinking.
>
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>
> What do you guys think?
cdc_1977 - 21 Jan 2004 01:30 GMT
I think that term was being used in conjunction with curing the
outbreak at hand. Being a doctor, he should use it a little more
carefully I agree.

Well I assume then no one has tried this?
Oh well....

Well being that I'm a healthy man who works out and runs daily, I
should have the exercise part covered. I do low carbs as well but need
some carbs to get by. I don't eat great foods all the time but I only
drink water. This should help I assume.

Is there any recommendations for foods/recipes to help prevent
outbreaks?

Also, has any fitness junkies like me noticed outbreaks getting worse
after a workout? I always tend to be more sensitive for the next
couple of hours.

My Valtrex seems to be helping now that I've been on it for a few
days.
What a difference a day makes.

Thanks for all your replies!
M.L.S. - 21 Jan 2004 02:29 GMT
>I think that term was being used in conjunction with curing the
>outbreak at hand. Being a doctor, he should use it a little more
>carefully I agree.

>Well I assume then no one has tried this?
>Oh well....

>Well being that I'm a healthy man who works out and runs daily, I
>should have the exercise part covered. I do low carbs as well but need
>some carbs to get by. I don't eat great foods all the time but I only
>drink water. This should help I assume.

>Is there any recommendations for foods/recipes to help prevent
>outbreaks?

Have you seen the L-lysine/Arginine ratio food table?

http://www.herpes.com/Nutrition.shtml

L-lysine and L-arginine are amino acids, and necessary to the good
health of the body.  It's thought that HSV makes use of L-arginine
somewhere in the replication process, and that ingesting extra
L-lysine will displace the arginine and thereby deprive the virus of
one of the components it needs to do what it does.

Anyway, you can buy L-lysine supplements in the Vitamin aisle, or you
can steer yourself to food high in Lysine and low in arginine, and the
table above can help you do that.  Eat the foods near the top of the
table and avoid those near the bottom.  Nuts are one of the known
outbreak triggers.  

>Also, has any fitness junkies like me noticed outbreaks getting worse
>after a workout? I always tend to be more sensitive for the next
>couple of hours.

Yes, we hear that from time to time.  Where loose clothing that wicks
away the perspiration, etc.  

>My Valtrex seems to be helping now that I've been on it for a few
>days.
>What a difference a day makes.

Glad you're feeling better.  With any luck it'll be awhile before you
experience the joy again.

>Thanks for all your replies!

You're welcome, and take care,

Mike
Grant - 21 Jan 2004 11:01 GMT
Low carb is fine as long as you are eating enough fruit.  Lots and lots of
fruit.  :)  Water is the very best.

ar

> I think that term was being used in conjunction with curing the
> outbreak at hand. Being a doctor, he should use it a little more
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>
> Thanks for all your replies!
cdc_1977 - 22 Jan 2004 03:56 GMT
You've all been so cool about this! Thanks a lot...

One last one before I close this thing and this one is the one that
concerns me most....

Will my penis go back to its normal look/feel when this outbreak ends?
Will the redness pass? Will the tingle pass?
Or best yet, will it still feel awkward if I have sex again?
Getting red and really pressured?

I'm kinda uncertain of what all is considered an outbreak.

Do I go back to 100% normal after this thing is over?
(That is assuming the outbreak will come back at some time again.)
Joe - 27 Jan 2004 22:41 GMT
> You've all been so cool about this! Thanks a lot...
>
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> Do I go back to 100% normal after this thing is over?
> (That is assuming the outbreak will come back at some time again.)

I'm eagerly awaiting a reply to this myself!  

Joe
 
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