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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Herpes / January 2004

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Valtrex concerns

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Joe - 23 Jan 2004 19:48 GMT
Let me get right to the point....I trust the posters here more
than I do any of the doctors I've seen thus far.  I'm strongly
considering taking Valtrex on a daily basis, but I am concerned
about the costs that'll accrue.  With my insurance I wound up
paying $30 for 20,000mg of Valtrex, which I'll just assume is the
typical price for most of you with insurance.  That means $30
every 1.33 months if I take 500mg a day, or $30 every 2.67 months
for 250mg a day.  The latter dose is more within my budget. I
hate to sound like I'm skimping on my health, but this is just a fact
of life for me now.  Perhaps I should just give up my cellphone.

In any event, my question is whether any of you who take Valtrex regularly
get by on 250mg a day, as opposed to the 500mg/day dose recommended at
Valtrex's website.  Can one even get these pills in 250mg doses?  Would
I just be wasting my time taking half the dosage recommended by Valtrex?
I don't want to go half-assed into a regular treatment only to find out
that I could've known a priori that such a strategy is worthless.

Will I be able to know the efficacy of 250mg/day only by trying it out,
the trial and error approach?  Everybody's different after all, right?

Do you think that a 500mg pill every two days is significantly different
than 250mg per day?

There's one more piece of advice I'd like to get from you guys and gals
here.  Should I wait it out a few months before taking Valtrex regularly,
just to see whether I'm one of the lucky ones who gets OBs only rarely?
This was the opinion of my general physician, who, as I stated in another
post, was pretty much clueless.

Thanks,
J
spud - 23 Jan 2004 21:10 GMT
Joe

Cant help on the price or dosage issue but there is something to be said for
waiting to see how your body reacts to the virus, especially as you do not
know your type. Could be if you have HSV1 you never see any symptoms again
and although the meds are very safe they do cause problems for some.

Give yourself a bit of time to get used to what has happened, read lots,
talk to this lot (they may not remember but three years ago when I was in
your position they helped me a great deal), relax, keep fit and healthy, try
not to get stressed and then see how it goes. If you are unlucky enough to
get frequent OBs then I suggest you take the meds otherwise once you learn
to recognise your predrome symptoms you can take a five day course then.

In the end, you have to decide what is best for you on the basis of the best
evidence you can find and, lucky for you, you are at a good starting point
with this group.

Spud

> Let me get right to the point....I trust the posters here more
> than I do any of the doctors I've seen thus far.  I'm strongly
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> Thanks,
> J
Grant - 23 Jan 2004 23:30 GMT
Personally, the best way to avoid the cost is not to take the pills.  There
really isn't a need for them if you don't want them.  I say wait and see
what happens.

ar

> Let me get right to the point....I trust the posters here more
> than I do any of the doctors I've seen thus far.  I'm strongly
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> Thanks,
> J
LK - 24 Jan 2004 16:06 GMT
>Personally, the best way to avoid the cost is not to take the pills.  There
>really isn't a need for them if you don't want them.  I say wait and see
>what happens.
>
>ar

If Joe was female then'd be likely to agree with you, but as usual,
male to female transmission rate is higher. Plus the fact that herpes
complicates pregnancy is nothing to be sneezed at--Ceaseran delivery
_is_ major surgery with its own complications.  And contracting herpes
during the pregnancy can interfere with fetal development.

Those facts also have to be said to any currently negative, potential
female partner.

And I doubt that many men even think far ahead in a woman's future.

LK
Angela - 24 Jan 2004 14:19 GMT
Neonatal herpes is not very common at all. Also, women with genital herpes
can have their babies through vaginal delivery without having to have a
C-section. There are only certain instances where a C-section might be
necessary. As far as herpes interfering with fetal development ~ I do not
agree. I would be interested in knowing where you read that herpes
interferes with fetal development.

All this coming from somebody that has had genital herpes for eight years. I
also just gave birth to a healthy 7lb 7oz baby girl in December. There were
no complications and I also had a vaginal delivery.

Angela
www.yoshi2me.com

> If Joe was female then'd be likely to agree with you, but as usual,
> male to female transmission rate is higher. Plus the fact that herpes
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> LK
LK - 27 Jan 2004 03:23 GMT
>Neonatal herpes is not very common at all. Also, women with genital herpes
>can have their babies through vaginal delivery without having to have a
>C-section. There are only certain instances where a C-section might be
>necessary. As far as herpes interfering with fetal development ~ I do not
>agree. I would be interested in knowing where you read that herpes
>interferes with fetal development.

I think I goofed and was misremembering with rubella consequences.

LK
Angela - 24 Jan 2004 14:15 GMT
Joe,

Before I made the decision to go on suppression I did  track my flare ups
for one year. Also, I wanted to reduce transmission which is possible by
about 50% when you are on suppression. In any case . . . I took 500mg of
Valtrex daily for two years. I had great success with it. I found that the
most cost effective way for me to obtain my meds was to have my doctor
prescribe 500 mg of Valtrex *twice* daily instead of once daily. Not only
did that give me 60 quantity vs. 30 quantity but it left me with the option
of being able to treat a flare up should I get one while on suppression. He
also gave me enough refills to last me an entire year.

Angela
www.yoshi2me.com

> Let me get right to the point....I trust the posters here more
> than I do any of the doctors I've seen thus far.  I'm strongly
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> Thanks,
> J
 
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