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So, that's me on my own now eh?

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Paul - 17 Jan 2004 11:24 GMT
Two weeks ago a girl I just met gave me unprotected oral sex and
protected sex.

I now appear to have genital herpes. Guess that's me alone for the
rest of my life then.

Stupid. Stupid. Stupid.
Grant - 17 Jan 2004 14:32 GMT
Why would it make you alone for the rest of your life?  It certainly hasn't
hindered most of the regulars here.

There's really no telling if the girl gave you herpes or not.  It is
possible that you've had it for awhile.

How were you diagnosed?  Did you see a doctor?  Did you have it typed?  What
kind of test did he do?

Have you asked the girl yet about it?

ar

> Two weeks ago a girl I just met gave me unprotected oral sex and
> protected sex.
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>
> Stupid. Stupid. Stupid.
Paul - 17 Jan 2004 17:13 GMT
>Why would it make you alone for the rest of your life?  It certainly hasn't
>hindered most of the regulars here.

Really? Can't see it. What am I supposed to do then? Get to know a
girl, things develop and just as we're about to be intimate say "Oh,
by the way I have genital herpes." ..."Sure, here's your coat."

Sorry, maybe I'm just pissed off at my own stupidity, but I really
don't see how I'm ever going to be able to let someone else into my
life now.

>There's really no telling if the girl gave you herpes or not.  It is
>possible that you've had it for awhile.

I doubt it.  18 months on my own (no sexual contact) with no symptoms.
And nothing before that either.

>How were you diagnosed?  Did you see a doctor?  Did you have it typed?  What
>kind of test did he do?

Haven't yet. Have an appointment this Tuesday. But it matches pictures
and desciptions here. Red patches with some small white
spots/bubbles/blisters whatever.

>Have you asked the girl yet about it?

She gave me her mobile number, have called several times, only to hear
her voice on an answering machine. I've been screwed in more ways than
one.
r. - 18 Jan 2004 00:59 GMT
I have contracted herpes from an ex-husband whom I hadn't had sexual
contact with in over four years....and it just now showed up.  

No joke.  

Don't assume it hasn't been sitting there or that your most recent
contact gave it to you either.  

r.

>>There's really no telling if the girl gave you herpes or not.  It is
>>possible that you've had it for awhile.
>
>I doubt it.  18 months on my own (no sexual contact) with no symptoms.
>And nothing before that either.
M.L.S. - 17 Jan 2004 16:32 GMT
>Two weeks ago a girl I just met gave me unprotected oral sex and
>protected sex.

>I now appear to have genital herpes. Guess that's me alone for the
>rest of my life then.

>Stupid. Stupid. Stupid.

It's hard to believe, Paul, but it's not usually that bad.  Oh, I know
how you feel right now because I felt the same way back in '99 when I
found out, too.  And I had been "suspicious" for some time, too, so it
wasn't even that much of a surprise.  Still, it's not an easy thing to
come to grips with.

But most people do manage to put herpes in perspective.  For most
people it's more of a mild nuisance than anything else.  And heck,
some 25% of the adult population has exactly what you do, and that's
an awful lot of people not to be alone with.  In fact, you might find,
as I have, that among sexually active people (as in people who have
had more than a handful of sexual partners), the percentages are even
higher.

So, it will take some time, but you'll see.  The more you learn about
the disease the more you can put it in perspective, and the more
you'll realize that things aren't as bad as they seem right now.

And you already know at least one person who has herpes, too.

Take care,

Mike
Paul - 17 Jan 2004 17:54 GMT
>>Two weeks ago a girl I just met gave me unprotected oral sex and
>>protected sex.
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>
>Mike

Thanks for your reply Mike.

Perhaps it's my lack of understanding of the condition, but everything
I've read so far on the internet, including this newsgroup, further
convinces me my enjoyment of sex is now finished.

I am never going to enjoy the pleasure of having a girl give me oral
(don't anyone dare mention condoms), and I'm never going to be
confident giving a girl oral either. Both were huge parts of my sex
life, intercourse was always boring to me.

So I'm stupid. And now I'm going to pay the price.
Grant - 17 Jan 2004 19:14 GMT
Paul,

Someday you are going to look back on what you wrote here and think, "Wow!
Was I wrong!"

We've all been where you are now.  So we do understand, really.

First of all, there are quite a few herpes dating sites out there.

Second, so far, I haven't had any trouble with guys.  I believe that Mike
hasn't any trouble with the ladies, either.  Granted, my experience has been
a little slim because I was married for 17 years.  But, the first guy I told
said that I was worth the risk and we were married for all those years.  But
now I'm divorced and facing dating again and it can be very scary.  The
first guy I told after my divorce already had type 2.  (I have type 1).  The
second guy I told gets cold sores so he already has type 1 so he can't get
it again from me.  So, I guess I'm going at 100% herpes infected so far.

So go see a doctor and get him to run some tests and find out what you
really have.  It might not be herpes at all.  Make sure you find out what
kind you have if it is.  If it's type 1...well, think of all those people
who have cold sores out there.  Oral sex won't be a problem for them...And
if it's type 2, then it's pretty difficult to pass that to someone's mouth
as well.  So oral sex isn't a problem for them, either.  Why were you
worried about oral sex, again?  :)

There are medications you can take that will cut the risk of passing herpes
on to someone else, by the way.  I never took the pills, my husband and I
did not use condoms most of the time and he never showed any signs of
getting herpes.  It's really not a big deal.  Some people may freak out when
you tell them but they weren't the right person for you, anyway.  When do
you tell them is always an issue for debate.  Each situation is different
and you just have to figure it out for yourself.  Oh, if you live in a big
city, then there are herpes support groups, also.  It looks to me like your
chances of meeting a herpes infected person is pretty high.

Now why wouldn't you be comfortable giving a girl oral sex?  Do you have
oral herpes?  Tell us exactly what your misconceptions are and we tell you
the truth.

Take care,
ar

> >>Two weeks ago a girl I just met gave me unprotected oral sex and
> >>protected sex.
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>
> So I'm stupid. And now I'm going to pay the price.
Angela - 17 Jan 2004 21:06 GMT
Paul,

If you believe that you are *stupid* and you don't try and learn what you
can from folks that have had this stuff for a while . . . then you are what
you say you are . . .

Read some of the personal stories that folks have shared with the world
here: http://www.yoshi2me.com/page5.html.

Angela
www.yoshi2me.com

> So I'm stupid. And now I'm going to pay the price.
r. - 18 Jan 2004 01:02 GMT
Right now it does feel huge.  I don't doubt that for you.  Over time,
you will see that it isn't....and that is the only thing that will
matter....not any of us saying it will get better.

Talk with your dr, get it typed....and go from there.  This group is
by far the best one *I* have found for good, trustworthy info, with
the exception of that Perl guy.  

Ask away, vent away....everyone here has either gone through that
emotion....or will at some point.  

r.

>Thanks for your reply Mike.
>
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>
>So I'm stupid. And now I'm going to pay the price.
Angela - 17 Jan 2004 21:04 GMT
Paul,

How do you know you didn't have herpes *before* you met this girl?

Angela
www.yoshi2me.com

> Two weeks ago a girl I just met gave me unprotected oral sex and
> protected sex.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Stupid. Stupid. Stupid.
Wanda - 18 Jan 2004 06:52 GMT
> Two weeks ago a girl I just met gave me unprotected oral sex and
> protected sex.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Stupid. Stupid. Stupid.

Hi Paul,
I know right now that nothing anyone says is really going to make you feel
better. But keep this in mind for when you are thinking a little more
clearly.
I had the herp for a year or two before I started dating a guy. A few
minutes after our first kiss I told him about me having it, because I would
never withhold that info. He basically said that he wanted to date me not my
herpes. To make a long story short, we are now married and have a son that
is eight months old.
I know that not all the responses a person gets will be like that, but there
is hope.
A few things to think about:
The more you know the better it makes you feel and the better you can
explain it to someone else that might not have the correct info on it.
In many people the longer you have it the less you will break out.
And if you tell someone and they run, then who the hell needs them? You have
all the strengths and weaknesses you had before you found out about the
herp.
And very importantly, you have all the people here on this board to bitch to
and ask question of. Good grief! Between all of us here who know how many
years experience we have with herpes!
You are not alone. Your life is not over. Different? Sure. But not over.
Good Luck,
Wanda
rojer - 20 Jan 2004 17:23 GMT
> Two weeks ago a girl I just met gave me unprotected oral sex and
> protected sex.
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>
> Stupid. Stupid. Stupid.

Hey Paul,
I just wanted to let you know that I know how you feel. I went through
the same feelings when I first found out I had herpes. To be honest I
still havent really made peace with the whole thing. Those same
feelings became brought on a depression so strong that I could hardly
go to work or get out of bed. This is the first time I admit this but
my depression was so absolute that I considered not going on. I wasnt
big on sleeping around but I liked the idea of having a casual sexual
fling if I wanted to and all I kept thinking about was how I could
never have that fun anymore. Or, dont laugh, I would look at
attractive women on the street and on tv and think to myself "no woman
like that will ever want me". I still cant have normal sex with my
fiance. There goes oral sex, I thought.  There goes my fiance laying
on my lap when we're laying on the sofa in our underwear like we used
to. I have to say that like everone in here says..it does pass. Just
try to be strong for a while and you'll see that things start looking
a little better as time goes on. With me my depression went hand in
hand with my pain so as the pain started to subside little by little I
felt less depressed. Reading the responces to peoples questions from
the wonderful people here helps a great deal, also. These are people
that actually care and want to help you. How wonderful is it to have
people who are there for you when you need it. Be strong, brother.
Life cant and shouldnt end because of this.
Roj
Paul - 27 Jan 2004 09:57 GMT
>> Two weeks ago a girl I just met gave me unprotected oral sex and
>> protected sex.
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>Life cant and shouldnt end because of this.
>Roj

Thanks for the post, and to everyone else that replied.

I'm still waiting for my test results to confirm type, and I'm trying
to come to terms with the whole thing.

I don't know about the future, we'll see.
 
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