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M2slo2cht@Yahoo.com - 29 Jun 2003 12:49 GMT
I've just heard on the grapevine that the POCKit test is no longer
available. Haven't seen anything official though and haven't gotten an
explanation as to what's happened.
Has anybody here heard/seen anything about it?

M2
M.L.S. - 29 Jun 2003 13:41 GMT
>I've just heard on the grapevine that the POCKit test is no longer
>available. Haven't seen anything official though and haven't gotten an
>explanation as to what's happened.
>Has anybody here heard/seen anything about it?

The diagnology web site doesn't have a hint of any change.

http://www.diagnology.com/

And I searched the Wall St Journal and nothing pops up there, nor in a
couple other search engines.

You must be too far ahead of the curve again, M2.  You scooped the
whole planet.  Ever think about working for the New York Times?

Mike
M2slo2cht@Yahoo.com - 29 Jun 2003 16:47 GMT
M2 posted:
>>I've just heard on the grapevine that the POCKit test is no longer
>>available.

>I searched the Wall St Journal and nothing pops up there, nor in a
>couple other search engines.

Did you check for recent (and I do mean recent) bankruptcies in
Belfast, Northern Ireland and/or Carey, North Carolina? If that's
what's happening, and not a technical problem with the test itself,
it'll be a temporary thing and the tests will be back on the market.
Right now though, I'm not sure what's a happenin'.

>Ever think about working for the New York Times?

I type to slow  :-(

>Mike

M2
M.L.S. - 29 Jun 2003 17:29 GMT
>M2 posted:

>>>I've just heard on the grapevine that the POCKit test is no longer
>>>available.

>>I searched the Wall St Journal and nothing pops up there, nor in a
>>couple other search engines.

>Did you check for recent (and I do mean recent) bankruptcies in
>Belfast, Northern Ireland and/or Carey, North Carolina? If that's
>what's happening, and not a technical problem with the test itself,
>it'll be a temporary thing and the tests will be back on the market.
>Right now though, I'm not sure what's a happenin'.

Nothing in 'The Cary News' and nothing in the Raleigh 'The News &
Observer' (I think Raleigh is a suburb of Cary), and nothing since the
Nov 12, 2002 'The Irish News Online' blurb announcing a new
partnership between Diagnology and GlaxoSmithKline.  Nothing in 'The
Belfast Telegraph' that I could see without a search-site box.  And
finally, nothing on the GlaxoSmithKline site, not even an announcement
of the partnership that was formed last year.

Maybe the news will break around the world Monday morning?

>>Ever think about working for the New York Times?

>I type too slow  :-(

I think they'd put up with slow typists if they were reliable.  ;-)

I'm going out to put my finger in the air and see if the wind
whipsers...

D          i    a          g    n         o      l o  g             y

Mike
ps  Every little breeze seems to whisper disease...
M.L.S. - 29 Jun 2003 18:17 GMT
>M2 posted:

>>>I've just heard on the grapevine that the POCKit test is no longer
>>>available.

>>I searched the Wall St Journal and nothing pops up there, nor in a
>>couple other search engines.

>Did you check for recent (and I do mean recent) bankruptcies in
>Belfast, Northern Ireland and/or Carey, North Carolina? If that's
>what's happening, and not a technical problem with the test itself,
>it'll be a temporary thing and the tests will be back on the market.
>Right now though, I'm not sure what's a happenin'.

I decided to grab the tree by the chestnuts and wrote 'em an email.
Now we only have to sit back and wait, and all will be revealed.

Whoops... my email just bounced back.  Not a good sign.

I rest my case:  they done gone belly up.  Yikes.

<bites knuckles>

Mike
M2slo2cht@Yahoo.com - 29 Jun 2003 18:55 GMT
>I decided to grab the tree by the chestnuts and wrote 'em an email.
>Now we only have to sit back and wait, and all will be revealed.

Good idea :-)

>Whoops... my email just bounced back.  Not a good sign.

uh oh ...   :-(

>I rest my case:  they done gone belly up.  Yikes.
><bites knuckles>

As long as there's nothing wrong with the technology, the test should
be back on the market soon. Maybe with a new owner, maybe a court
appointed administrator, maybe same ownership under reorganization.
That's all speculation on my part though. Hopefully we'll hear
something more tomorrow about what's goin' on.

M2
Angela - 08 Jul 2003 02:04 GMT
It's official.  I got the official word yesterday in the mail from ASHA.  I
will try and get something typed up to share with everybody on the details.

Hang In There,

~Angela

Come Pick Up the Pieces w/Us:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PickingUpThePieces/

> I've just heard on the grapevine that the POCKit test is no longer
> available. Haven't seen anything official though and haven't gotten an
> explanation as to what's happened.
> Has anybody here heard/seen anything about it?
>
> M2
M.L.S. - 08 Jul 2003 04:51 GMT
>It's official.  I got the official word yesterday in the mail from ASHA.  I
>will try and get something typed up to share with everybody on the details.

Well, dot answers dot question.

Hey, did anyone notice that ASHA and Diagnology (R.I.P.) have box
numbers in the same 'Research Triangle Park' in North Carolina?

Me neither.  (No, seriously, they do.)

Editorialization (buyer beware!):  At this juncture I'm all for
speculating as to the nature of the economic problems that swamped the
poor company.  Hard or impossible to open up new markets?  Just not
that much call for a while-u-wait herpes test that only finds HSV2?
No good pow wows by the Big Chiefs?  Too many three martini power
lunches?  I always thought the web site was not the most professionaly
done.  Is the Co. still operating in foreign lands?  (apologies to the
Irish for calling them foreign!)

Of course, according to some recent postings, if Diagnology's problem
was lack o' customers, this apparent setback could merely be a
harbinger for the soon-to-be-rejuvinated Co. to stun us all with a
Cure for everything from halitosis to overly mixed metaphors. <wg>

And in conclusion (pounds podium) I would guess that even if
Diagnology can't cough up the bubble gum and bailing wire to hold it
all together, they still ought to be able to sell the technology to
someone who can.  Maybe we can take up a collection and go into
bidness ourselves?  

I nominate me for The Guy Who Mixes Up The Test Tubes!

Ciao,

Mike
M2slo2cht@Yahoo.com - 08 Jul 2003 14:07 GMT
>At this juncture I'm all for
>speculating as to the nature of the economic problems that swamped the
>poor company.

Here's my 2 cents below.

>Hard or impossible to open up new markets?

Sort of. I think it's related to the same ol' "awareness" thing that's
been herp's problem all along. It's a matter of getting the attention
of the medical community and making them realize that (1) herp is a
problem and that they (2) can do something about it.  Most docs, and
others that matter, shrug it off as a minor issue not worthy of their
time. Especially since, they think, there's nothing to be done about
it anyway (aaarrgghh!!).

>Just not
>that much call for a while-u-wait herpes test that only finds HSV2?

If everyone, including the doctors, knew the facts about herpes,
instead of the misinformation and myths, and knew the tests were
available, the demand would be there. There's not a doubt in my mind
about that.

>No good pow wows by the Big Chiefs?  Too many three martini power
>lunches?

I've met one of their spokespeeps. She's much more a serious medical
professional than a glitzy public relations type. I don't think a
bloated sales and advertising budget is the problem.

>I always thought the web site was not the most professionaly
>done.

Probably right. But I think the "POCKit-leaflet for doctors" is a
great idea as far as "bang for the buck" is concerned. But the general
public still isn't exposed to the web nearly as much as TV and print
media. If Diagnology had the money for TV ads like SKB has, they could
start getting the word out a lot faster.

>Is the Co. still operating in foreign lands?  (apologies to the
>Irish for calling them foreign!)

Not sure why that ... other than, like most other U.S. companies, the
lower manufacturing costs are overseas. Everything I've bought lately,
from an American company, has been made in China or Mexico. Ireland is
a refreshing change. At least I can understand them (almost) when they
talk.

> this apparent setback could merely be a
>harbinger for the soon-to-be-rejuvinated Co. to stun us all with a
>Cure for everything from halitosis to overly mixed metaphors. <wg>

The mixed metaphors will, no doubt, be tougher.

>even if
>Diagnology can't cough up the bubble gum and bailing wire to hold it
>all together, they still ought to be able to sell the technology to
>someone who can.

Right. There's nothing wrong with the technology. It's a matter of
getting the doctors to think "POCKit" when a potential case of herpes
walks into the office. Right now, unfortunately, they don't even think
"herpes". And when they do, they think "can't do anything about that"
so "why bother testing for it"..

>Maybe we can take up a collection and go into
>bidness ourselves?

It'll only take three of us. I think if you and I and Bill Gates pool
our resources, we can fund an advertising budget that's up to the
challenge and we'll all get rich! Anybody else want in? The more the
merrier! <somebody call Bill>

>I nominate me for The Guy Who Mixes Up The Test Tubes!

SECOND!!

M2
M2slo2cht@Yahoo.com - 08 Jul 2003 14:33 GMT
On Tue, 08 Jul 2003 08:07:01 -0500, M2 wrote:

>If Diagnology had the money for TV ads like SKB has,

Oops! I mean like GSK has.
Sometimes you need a scorecard to keep up with the ups and downs of
the topsy turvey corporate world (and sometimes I simply come down
with a case of the dumb). The company that was once
Smith-Kline-Beecham has morphed once again. This time, into
Glaxo-Smith-Kline.

M2
Angela - 08 Jul 2003 16:29 GMT
I've started a new thread titled "POCkit no longer available" ... it's only
going to be a temporary thing ...

Hang In There,

~Angela

> >It's official.  I got the official word yesterday in the mail from ASHA.  I
> >will try and get something typed up to share with everybody on the details.
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>
> Mike
M2slo2cht@Yahoo.com - 08 Jul 2003 14:36 GMT
>It's official.  I got the official word yesterday in the mail from ASHA.

Thanks Yosh  :-)
Keep us up if you hear anything further  ;-)

M2
Angela - 08 Jul 2003 16:29 GMT
I started a new thread with the exact information that I received in the
mail from ASHA.

Hang In There,

~Angela

> >It's official.  I got the official word yesterday in the mail from ASHA.
>
> Thanks Yosh  :-)
> Keep us up if you hear anything further  ;-)
>
> M2
 
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