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Melissa D - 08 Dec 2003 20:42 GMT

Hi,

I am delurking to correct you on one point. I read in another thread
where you said lesions do not appear on or inside the cervix during
recurrences. That simply is not true. It is not common, but it happens
and it happened to me, more than once. I don't know if the virus could
go through the amniotic sac but I DO KNOW it is possible to get a lesion
on your cervix during a secondary outbreak.

Melissa

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M.L.S. - 08 Dec 2003 21:32 GMT

>Hi,

>I am delurking to correct you on one point. I read in another thread
>where you said lesions do not appear on or inside the cervix during
>recurrences. That simply is not true. It is not common, but it happens
>and it happened to me, more than once. I don't know if the virus could
>go through the amniotic sac but I DO KNOW it is possible to get a lesion
>on your cervix during a secondary outbreak.

>Melissa

Whoops. Thanks for the correction, Melissa. I over-reacted to the
troll "Joanne" and didn't check my facts like I shoulda. Apparently
it's true, lesions can form on the cervix. Inside, I still am not
sure. However, I think it's nearly impossible for a fetus to become
infected in utero. It's during delivery that there is any risk.

Joanne is still a troll, though. ;-)

Take care and I'll try to be less of a grump in the future.

Mike

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Angela - 09 Dec 2003 01:05 GMT

Mike,

Thanks for the heads up on the trolls. Sometimes I need reminding before I
go off on tangents and waste my precious time.
I agree with you though . . . it's during labor and delivery if a flare up
is present that there might be some concern. But, I also wanted to point out
that if a woman has herpes prior to becoming herpes then mom is sharing
antibodies with her baby. So, there is still not too much to worry about
even if there is some virus present. There are also many things women can do
to prevent flare ups during labor and delivery. I am currently back on
suppression with Valtrex since the middle of November because I'm about to
have this baby any day now. (I'm 39 weeks pregnant) In any case . . . just
thought I'd mention it.

For those concerned about herpes and pregnancy there are some good links
listed on this page: http://www.yoshi2me.com/page4.html

Happy Holidays!!! :)

Angela
www.yoshi2me.com

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maree - 09 Dec 2003 05:27 GMT

"..... because I'm about to

> have this baby any day now. (I'm 39 weeks pregnant) In any case . . . just
> thought I'd mention it."

That's great Angela. Good luck! Decided on a name yet?
Regards, Maree

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Angela - 09 Dec 2003 05:44 GMT

I have a name that I really like but nothing has been agreed on ~ yet. We
want to meet the little one and see where that will take us! :) We are very
excited and I am sooooo ready to get her OUT! :) :) :)

Thanks for asking! :)

*Hugs*

Angela

> That's great Angela. Good luck! Decided on a name yet?
> Regards, Maree

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M.L.S. - 09 Dec 2003 06:06 GMT

>Mike,

>Thanks for the heads up on the trolls. Sometimes I need reminding before I
>go off on tangents and waste my precious time.

We've all innocently responded to trolls before, and probably will
again. It's no real trick to ask a question on a support group and
get people responding. People are pretty trusting. Over in misc.kids
Joanne has nearly 100 earnest responses to her claims that she can't
have more children. If she's not a troll she's one mixed up cookie.

>I agree with you though . . . it's during labor and delivery if a flare up
>is present that there might be some concern. But, I also wanted to point out
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>have this baby any day now. (I'm 39 weeks pregnant) In any case . . . just
>thought I'd mention it.

Woo hoo. Congratulations, Angela, and may it be an easy one. Will
there be a video tape???

Take care,

Mike

>For those concerned about herpes and pregnancy there are some good links
>listed on this page: http://www.yoshi2me.com/page4.html

>Happy Holidays!!! :)

>Angela
>www.yoshi2me.com

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Angela - 09 Dec 2003 18:19 GMT

No video tapes! lol :)
I don't want to see the baby coming out.
I just want to get the baby out as quickly as possible. LOL
I will definitely be posting some photos on my bio page.
I have some ultra sound photos posted and one of me at 37 weeks.
Just look in the pregnancy portion of my story:
http://www.yoshi2me.com/page13.html .

Happy Holidays!!!

Angela :)

> Woo hoo. Congratulations, Angela, and may it be an easy one. Will
> there be a video tape???

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r. - 10 Dec 2003 03:37 GMT

>>Hi,
>
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>sure. However, I think it's nearly impossible for a fetus to become
>infected in utero. It's during delivery that there is any risk.

From what research I did, in response to the troll, I learned a lot,
especially from the archives. If one has existing HSV going on when
she becomes pregnant, if the virus does 'cross' in utero, it is a
very minimal risk because of the existing antibodies.

It is the cases of NEW HSV during pregnancy, especially ones that
manifest on/in the cervix during pregnancy, primarily in reference to
delivery transference.

>Joanne is still a troll, though. ;-)

I have to say that the troll thing freaks me out a wee bit. WHY WHY
WHY???

>Take care and I'll try to be less of a grump in the future.
>
>Mike

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M.L.S. - 10 Dec 2003 05:05 GMT

>>Whoops. Thanks for the correction, Melissa. I over-reacted to the
>>troll "Joanne" and didn't check my facts like I shoulda. Apparently
>>it's true, lesions can form on the cervix. Inside, I still am not
>>sure. However, I think it's nearly impossible for a fetus to become
>>infected in utero. It's during delivery that there is any risk.

>From what research I did, in response to the troll, I learned a lot,
>especially from the archives.

We've often said here that researching and answering even the trollish
questions is good for our own knowledge and good for the group. You
did a nice job of pulling that info together and I meant to say so
earlier.

> If one has existing HSV going on when
>she becomes pregnant, if the virus does 'cross' in utero, it is a
>very minimal risk because of the existing antibodies.

>It is the cases of NEW HSV during pregnancy, especially ones that
>manifest on/in the cervix during pregnancy, primarily in reference to
>delivery transference.

>>Joanne is still a troll, though. ;-)

>I have to say that the troll thing freaks me out a wee bit. WHY WHY
>WHY???

Who knows?

Here's a page about trolls one of the guys on alt.support.stop.smoking
put together:

http://www.quitbuddies.org/Trolls.html

The first link on that page, about halfway down, is another good one.

Take care,

Mike

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Angela - 09 Dec 2003 01:01 GMT

Melissa D,

Actually . . . recurrences can produce evidence of virus on the cervix but
that happens in a small percentage of women.
First-episode genital herpes lesions are likely to appear in men on the
penis and urethra, the scrotum, the upper thigh, or around the anus. In
women, they are commonly found on the vulva (lips of the vagina), urethra,
cervix, and upper thigh, or around the anus.

Angela
www.yoshi2me.com

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