That's what I thought.  You're still an idiot and a troll, just like
you were back in March.

According to your recent posts in misc.kids you're not pregnant, and
can't even have any more children.  

Your nonsense about a midwife seeing lesions on your cervix is pure
unadultered idiocy.

Go away.

Mike

From what I have read and I am NO OB or MW, it seems that if you have
had herpes for a while, and have built up some anti-bodies, the risks
are extremely low because the fetus gets your antibodies.  The only
risks I saw were if a baby was delivered vaginally during an
outbreak....which makes sense for mums to have C-sections.  

Midwives are probably as educated about the transmission of herpes to
a fetus as an OB, if not more in many cases.  Midwives, on an average,
spend much more time with their patients as many OBs do.

It is scary to think about the "what if's"  when you are
pregnant....and the only things  that will alleviate that worry are:  

1.  Talk to the midwife.  Seriously.  Make an appointment, phone her,
send a fax, ANYTHING....but do it *MONDAY* and make yourself feel
better.  Don't let her get off that easily if she has rattled you.
Part of her job as a practitioner is to answer questions and keep her
mums-to-be happy physically and mentally.

2.  Secondly, the unfortunate truth is that you will not feel fully
relieved until you see and hold that healthy bub and know that all is
ok.  That is the sucky part of being pregnant.  You just have a bigger
dose because of what you are dealing with.  But remember, stress is
also bad bad bad for a baby too and can increase outbreaks.  So find
the answers you need more specifically.  

Also, do go to the archives and do a search on pregnancy.  The posts
are very informative....and will probably ease your mind.  

http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&group=alt.support.herpes

Make sure to select the button for "Search only in alt.support.herpes"

=)

The stats are there that so many ladies have had happy, healthy babies
sans HSV.  You have to trust in that....

From:  http://falcao.best.vwh.net/Midwife/herpes.html

But the new study, funded by the National Institute of Allergy and
Infectious Diseases, found that among the 7,046 women tested, 2
percent came down with oral or vaginal herpes during pregnancy and
their babies showed no signs of unusual problems. Apparently the
mother's immune system was able to launch a counterattack long before
delivery, doctors said.

AND

The only babies in the study who contracted neonatal herpes were born
to women who acquired genital herpes near the onset of labor and who
had not yet developed antibodies. No baby of the 94 women who
seroconverted during pregnancy developed herpes; neither was an
increased risk of preterm labor, intrauterine growth retardation, or
spontaneous abortion found. -New England Journal of Medicine, 1997,
Vol. 337 No. 8  

AND

Neonates delivered vaginally during a recurrent episode have an
infection risk of only 1% to 4%.  So the risk of infection for an
asymptomatic woman is less than 0.02% to 0.08% on average, and even
less than that for older women who did not acquire herpes recently.

r.

Joanne,

How far along are you in your pregnancy and how long have you had genital
herpes?
How did you finally confirm that you actually have herpes?
FYI, it doesn't sound like your midwife knows too much about herpes and
pregnancy.

Angela
www.yoshi2me.com

Joanne,

It's very clear to me that you know nothing about the sharing of antibodies
during pregnancy.
It's also very clear to me that you know nothing about herpes. Hopefully you
will take more time out to learn about these two things . . . it will save
you much grief in the end.

Angela
www.yoshi2me.com

Bacteria are hundreds and thousands of times larger than viruses and
they'll easily "fit through a coffee filter", too.  Dust mites can
probably fit through a coffee filter, too.  Amniotic fluid would
probably drip through a filter, too.  So?

Could be that the uterus is inhospitible to viruses.

What's more clear is that you've been humping the same line of
questioning for over two years here.

On Nov 18, 2001 you asked this group:

"Hi, I am 25 weeks pregnant and have had genital herpes for 10 years.
I just had a really bad outbreak, the doctor said I even had lesions
on my cervix.  The cervix is SO close to the baby that I am worried it
could have infected the baby.  I keep thinking about all those sores
so close to my baby, and I can't even sleep.  I would like to hear
other people's thoughts even if they are negative.  Thanks."

On Sep 5, 2003, posting as "Jo" you asked:

"I have an 18 month old, so I know having a healthy baby is possible.
I've had herpes for 10 years. Here's my concern- I went in for my
first prenatal exam (pap smear, pelvic exam, etc) and I told the OB I
was in the middle of a herpes outbreak and did not think the exams
were a good idea. The OB said it would be fine and used the dreaded
speculums, did the exams, plus a pelvic exam. My worry is that the OB
could have pushed the active virus up into my cervix and uterus and
spread it to the baby. Did anyone else have an outbreak and an exam
like this at the same time? I am only 6 weeks along. Thanks."

This last week you claimed that your "midwife" spotted a lesion inside
your cervix and that you're worried about your baby, while at the same
time you are posting to misc.kids that you can't have any more
children and that you're "really just trying to explore the negatives"
related to raising an only child.

There's something wrong with it all, Jo, something a little sick, if
you ask me.  I don't know whether you have herpes or not (you denied
it in March of this year when your stupidity on the kids' groups
overflowed into a.s.h.) or whether you have one child or two or none
(you've made conflicting statements there, as well as on other
subjects), and I really don't care, but you've been told repeatedly
that the scenario you're obsessing over doesn't happen except in the
rarest of circumstances, and it just doesn't look like you're going to
get more of an answer than that.

Are you trying to unnecessarily scare any prospective mothers that
might be lurking here?  Or what?  Maybe you're just some weird kind of
hypochondriac who seeks attention by dwelling on hypothetical
negatives.  Or maybe you're just another stupid troll.

Fetuses are safe from herpes.  The biggest risk to babies acquiring
HSV is during delivery to a mother who is experiencing her Primary or
first ever genital outbreak, in which case, a Caesarian can be
performed, with only the usual Caesarian risk to the child and mother.

Prospective mothers with herpes should, of course, inform their
doctors of their condition, and be reassured that it is being taken
into consideration, and they should be reassured that healthy
deliveries are the overwhelming norm.

Mike