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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Herpes / July 2008Vaccination with live Herpes virus?
If you're a prostitute and thus know you're at a high risk of getting Herpes, would it be possible or advisable to vaccinate with the live virus? For instance, condoms do offer some protection against Herpes and have been suggested as a way of lessening the outbreak area in the event the virus is contracted, so if you knew you were going to be infected, would it thus be better to infect a small place on the skin somewhere so you didn't have a huge outbreak? > If you're a prostitute and thus know you're at a high risk of getting > Herpes, would it be possible or advisable to vaccinate with the live > virus? In a word, no. If it were that easy, we'd have vaccines against everything. | "Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against | | unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct | | before reason can act on them" -- Thomas Jefferson | +-------- D. C. Sessions <dcs@lumbercartel.com> ---------+ hot_chick1003 writes: > if you knew you were going to be >infected, would it thus be better to infect a small place on the skin >somewhere so you didn't have a huge outbreak? Here's a copy/paste of an explanation I just gave in another thread. It may help you understand why your idea won't work. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >This is what I don't really understand. In my reading I remember >something about an outbreak occurring before symptoms, ie virus being >present on the skin. So can I be active and not know it yet. Yes, virus can be shed from the skin even when there is no visible outbreak. I'll explain further below. >Second thing is where does the virus appear, only on the site of the >first outbreak. I don't really understand why other body parts are not >active. After infection, the virus sets up housekeeping in the Sacral Ganglia where it lies dormant most of the time doing no harm. The Sacral Ganglia is at the base of the spine and is the root of the sensory nerves serving the skin in the boxer shorts area. Occasionally, the dormant virus reactivates and starts replicating (pumping out new viruses) at which point the new viruses travels up a nerve (staying within the nerve) to the surface of the skin. The location where it surfaces is dependant upon which nerve it travels. Sometimes it goes up the same nerve it came in on when infection took place. But it can also travel up a different nerve to surface in a different location. The mechanism that causes the dormant virus to reactivate isn't fully understood but a number of possible triggers are identified. Certain foods, stress, friction, that sort of thing. Everybody has different triggers. The choice of which nerve to take to the skin's service seems to be the path of least resistance but that path is impossible to predict. As I mentioned, viral shedding can occur without symptoms but at some point the volume of virus becomes so great that an outbreak is the result. So that's why you get virus accumulating on the skin surface before the symptoms appear. I hope that helps clear things up a little. M2 On Jul 1, 8:52 pm, M2slo2...@nospam.invalid wrote: > hot_chick1003 writes: > > if you knew you were going to be [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > > M2 But I read that people who get Herpes 2 on their mouth don't get it on their genitals and vice versa. So while it's not the most ideal solution, it might be better than nothing if it was possible to infect a small place on your arm or something and then cover it for weeks until your body developed anti-bodies. This might be better then getting a full blown case of it in the genital region. See: http://www.herpes.com/hsv1-2.html They might want to see if this sort of pseudo-vaccination works. The same thing could be true for wart and cancer causing HPV. Couldn't they just infect you with it in a place where you wouldn't get warts or cancer, and then your body would develop anti-bodies, and then you wouldn't be able to get oral, genital, or anal warts or cancer. Hi, This is so not true. It is entirely possible to get Herpes 2 in more than one place at the same time: I know, because I have Herpes 2 genitally AND on the palm of my hand (called Whitlow). Any more questions? mama z But I read that people who get Herpes 2 on their mouth don't get it on their genitals and vice versa. So while it's not the most ideal solution, it might be better than nothing if it was possible to infect a small place on your arm or something and then cover it for weeks until your body developed anti-bodies. This might be better then getting a full blown case of it in the genital region. See: http://www.herpes.com/hsv1-2.html They might want to see if this sort of pseudo-vaccination works. The same thing could be true for wart and cancer causing HPV. Couldn't they just infect you with it in a place where you wouldn't get warts or cancer, and then your body would develop anti-bodies, and then you wouldn't be able to get oral, genital, or anal warts or cancer. True, because as a matter of fact, I ended up getting genital herpes type 1 when I was 27, and later genital herpes type 2 and oral herpes type 1 at the same time I got infected with the type 2 genitally. The second series of infections happened when I was about 39. Its more likely that you can get type 2 after getting type 1 then the other way around. Of course as we know with herpes there are no definites! I will say that when I got genital type one it was quite bothersome. With genital type 2 it was more frequent and more painful in terms of aching etc. The oral type one that i seemed to have gotten at 39 (unless i had it all along and it just came out then) was very mild, and I never got a cold sore aside from mild redness and tenderness on and around my lips. Hope this helps, Al > Hi, > This is so not true. It is entirely possible to get Herpes 2 in more than > one place at the same time: I know, because I have Herpes 2 genitally AND > on the palm of my hand (called Whitlow). > Any more questions? > mama z Generally, when looking for a vaccine, you look for something predictable and reliable that works on as many people as possible. And although your proposal might "work" in a few cases, it could (probably) do more harm than good in many (maybe most) other cases. And there's no way to predict who would benefit and who would be harmed. M2 hot_chick1003 writes: >But I read that people who get Herpes 2 on their mouth don't get it on >their genitals and vice versa. So while it's not the most ideal [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >or cancer, and then your body would develop anti-bodies, and then you >wouldn't be able to get oral, genital, or anal warts or cancer. |
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