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jimmy_valentine - 05 Jun 2008 04:05 GMT
First of all, hats off to all of you for creating an excellent forum.  The
level of discourse here is really good relative to some of the other message
boards out there.  

Here's my situation: About a month and a half ago, I had protected sex with a
new partner.  A few days there after, I noticed tiny (1mm) blisters on the
shaft of my penis and in the pubic hair area consistent with HSV2.  They
didn't disapear on their own, so about three weeks thereafter, I went to my
physician and had a comprehensive STD test (he tested me for EVERYthing).  He
agreed that the blisters were consistant with HSV2, so he put me on a course
of Valtrex proactively.

My results came back negative for everything including HSV2, HPV, syph, and
all the usual suspects.  About a week later, my partner got her test results
back: negative for everything, but the doctor diagnosed her with a yeast
infection.  I completed the course of Valtrex; I didn't notice any
appreciable change in the blisters.  My physician put me on a course of
antibiotics thinking that the blisters might be due to a superficial
bacterial infection.  I'm about 1/2 way through those pills and I haven't
noticed any change.  I've made an appointment to see a dermatologist, but I
can't get in for another three weeks, so the suspense is killing me over here.

Here are my questions:

1) I was under the impression that HSV2 always responded Valtrex in people
with healthy immune systems such as myself.  Is that the case?  If so, what
gives?

2) I've had these blisters now for about six weeks.  Is that consistent with
HSV2?  What I'm reading is that symptoms typically abate after 2-3 weeks with
HSV even if you don't treat it.

3) Could this be related to my partner's yeast infection?

4) What might it be besides HSV2?  

Thanks in advance for any help you can offer.  

-Jimmy Valentine
Tara Passel - 05 Jun 2008 08:16 GMT
Sounds like the Doctor diagnosed your partner wrong. Alot of times
doctors will check women and just think its a yeast infection when its
really not. I would talk to her and tell her to get checked for all the
std's.
Sorry to hear that you had to get this (Gif) what a  rude awake huh? Im
23 and got genital herpes when i was 17. i sure that it will get better
its just going to take sometime.  Take care.
Faye in TX - 05 Jun 2008 20:39 GMT
It's odd to have used a condom & to have gotten it on the shaft of your
penis. usually u get in on ur scrotum or surrounding area as the condom
doesn't protect that area. Also to strill have the little blisters after
6 weeks is way too long for it to be an outbreak, I only have oral HSV1
and it lasts 6-7 days max. (use abreva to prevent them, it's expensive
but works)  I think you may have poison ivy or oak or sumac, they all
look like little blisters and would more numerous and on all parts of
your pubic area as u describe also it would last a long time if not
treated. Have you walked through any high grass or weeds lately. I only
thought of this as my lil brother recently got poison ivy all on the
inside of his thieghs, when his new puupy ran off and he chased her thru
a bunch of brush and weeds and a ditch to get her back. His when treated
lasted for 3 weeks and they were little blisters all in clusters. Have
your doctor check it out he may have just assumed STD from the
location..Good luck.
MamaZ - 05 Jun 2008 21:01 GMT
Good "thinking outside the box" Faye!
But, I think (imho), if he did have poison oak or ivy, the itching would be
so unbearable that I believe he would have mentioned it.  Yes, herpes itches
badly too, but (IMHO), there's nothing like the 'itch' from poison oak or
ivy.

BTW: (a note to Jimmy and in general), use RHUS TOX 30 (a homeopathic
remedy) to relieve the itch...one or two tiny pellets take the itch away
LITERALLY takes within minutes (sometimes seconds!) and it is not at all
expensive (a tube which will last you a lifetime costs perhaps $10.00 maybe
less).  Pick it up at your local health food store, or Whole Foods.
If you'd like more info about homeopathy, I'm happy to answer any questions.
mama z

> It's odd to have used a condom & to have gotten it on the shaft of your
> penis. usually u get in on ur scrotum or surrounding area as the condom
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> your doctor check it out he may have just assumed STD from the
> location..Good luck.
Faye in TX - 06 Jun 2008 05:05 GMT
Actually my lil brother's (who is 11) rash did not itch at all, he had
it for 2 days before he mentioned it, & he said something once it had
gotten all over his legs, he said it was just a lilttle spot at first &
was just worried as it looked really bad.  But usually those rashes do
itch like crazy. I just was trying to give him ideas not related to
STD's as the HSV tests were negative.
MamaZ - 07 Jun 2008 19:39 GMT
Although it's very unusual not to experience itching with poison oak, I've
been in medicine long enough to realize ANYTHING is possible!   It is
starting to sound more and more like something besides herpes....poison oak,
a fungal infection (related to the yeast infection)...so that would be
terrific news for Jimmy!
Best
mamaZ

> Actually my lil brother's (who is 11) rash did not itch at all, he had
> it for 2 days before he mentioned it, & he said something once it had
> gotten all over his legs, he said it was just a lilttle spot at first &
> was just worried as it looked really bad.  But usually those rashes do
> itch like crazy. I just was trying to give him ideas not related to
> STD's as the HSV tests were negative.
MamaZ - 05 Jun 2008 20:55 GMT
Hi Jimmy,
It is odd that you've had the blisters so long...but it's probably because
it's your first outbreak.  Do you have any other symptoms, such as fever,
fatigue, lethargy, aches, etc?  Often these symptoms will accompany an OB,
especially the first one.

My feeling about your partner is that she most likely does have a yeast
infection (they are so common after passionate sex).  And the yeast
infection may be masking any herpetic outbreak she may have.  On the other
hand, it IS possible that she is herpes free and that (if you've ever had
sex before) you may have had the herpes before you had sex with her.  Herpes
can stay latent for long periods of time then suddenly when the time is
right for it, a combination of the right amount of friction and even just
getting older, can bring it out.

Personally, I cannot think of anything else it might be, but hsv2 (or hsv1).
It *is* possible to get hsv1 genitally, most people don't realize that.
It's just that it's much more common for hsv2 to break out "below the
waist".  But, if you had oral sex, then hsv1 is a possibility.  That of
course doesn't mean it can't be something besides herpes, but nothing comes
to mind and I've been involved in medicine most of my life (over 40 years -
I am not a professional however).

FYI: A dermatologist will probably take a culture of the fluid from one of
the blisters (if they are still present, which I hope for your sake they are
not).    Did your doctor take a culture from the actual blister?  I've
noticed that these tests (the ones from the fluid from the blisters) are
often more accurate than other tests.

In response to your first question: I have hsv1 & hsv2 and Valtrex does
absolutely nothing for me - relieves no symptoms and does not suppress my
outbreaks.  I am using alternative and more 'natural' ways to do what
Valtrex is supposed to do.  Even if it does *not* turn out to be herpes, I
recommend that you see someone besides a traditional 'allopath' (Western
medical doctor).  A professional homeopath or naturopath can offer many
alternative ways to help support your immune system (diet, nutritional
supplements, homeopathic remedies), which can help you fight off any future
'attacks'.  Many alternatives out there really do help, either with
suppressing outbreaks or making them more bearable.

Are you taking L-Lysine?  I'd start with 500 mg a day, it might help the
blisters disappear faster.  I'm sure you agree that it will be important to
let any future sexual partners know that you MAY have herpes, you don't want
to accidentally pass along this 'gift'.

Most importantly, don't fret too much about it....it's really not the end of
the world, nor your sex life.  I've had herpes almost my entire adult life
and it never affected my sex life in the least, and I've always been very
sexually active.

I'm happy to offer any help I can....just try your best not to worry too
much.  Worrying will only cause stress which herpes thrives on.  Stay
physically active and, most importantly, stay happy!

My thoughts are with you...
MamaZ

> First of all, hats off to all of you for creating an excellent forum.  The
> level of discourse here is really good relative to some of the other
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>
> -Jimmy Valentine
jimmy_valentine - 06 Jun 2008 13:43 GMT
Thanks to all of you for your thoughtful advice.  

For starters, let me answer  your questions:

MamaZ - My physician didn't biopsy one of the blisters.  He drew blood and
tested for antibodies to HSV 1 and 2; both came up negative.  My partner had
the same tests.  The blisters are still there, though they're responding well
to an antifungal cream my doctor prescribed.  When I go to the dermatologist
on Monday, I'll ask him to take a culture from a blister (that doesn't sound
like much fun, BTW).  I don't presently take lysine as a supplement, but as a
vegetarian half my caloric intake is from beans, so I probably get all I need!
I'll consider adding lysine as a supplement if the symptoms persist.

Faye - That's an interesting proposition.  I volunteer at a farm on the
weekends, so maybe I picked up something there.  I'll bring that up with the
dermatologist when I see him on Monday.  Your suggestion's especially
compelling since I haven't had any of the pain, discomfort, or itching
normally associated with an HSV outbreak.  As I understand it, the first
outbreak is normally associated with a full on primary immune response.  I
haven't gotten sick, I don't itch.  HSV infects nerve cells.  How could this
be HSV if I can't feel it?  

If there's sustained interest in my case, I'll provide updates after I visit
my dermatologist and get results from whatever tests he recommends.  
   
Thanks again to all of you.  

-JV
MamaZ - 07 Jun 2008 19:45 GMT
Hi Jimmy,
It is looking more and more like it's *not* herpes!  That would be wonderful
for you and I pray it will continue to go that way.
I imagine that the biopsy would not be particularly pleasant, but if your
blisters are gone by that time I doubt seriously she would have to do it.  I
had one done on the palm of my hand (I have whitlow) and although she tested
it, she did not give me a 'herpes' diagnosis, but just told me I had a
BLISTER, though in medical terms! (which is something I already knew!).
Please keep us posted, I (for one) am very curious about your case!
peace...
mama Z

> Thanks to all of you for your thoughtful advice.
>
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>
> -JV
jimmy_valentine - 13 Jun 2008 13:37 GMT
I visited the dermatologist earlier this week.  He diagnosed me with
molluscum contagiosum. As STDs go, this one's not too bad...certainly not so
bad as herpes.  My doc froze off each of the blisters using a liquid nitrogen
aerosol (not as unbearable as it sounds, but not fun).  In three weeks, I'll
return for a check up and likely be deemed free of the disease.   My partner
is going to get the same treatment.  

Hopefully this thread can be a resource for men and women in comparable
situations.  

Thanks again to all of you for helping to allay my fears when I was so
stressed out last week.  I owe you one!

-JV

>Hi Jimmy,
>It is looking more and more like it's *not* herpes!
MamaZ - 13 Jun 2008 20:07 GMT
hi jimmy,
I just want to caution you that although the blisters are gone, it does not
mean you are free from the disease, it has only been suppressed to a deeper
layer and it will inevitably show up again, if not in the same form, as some
other, perhaps more dangerous form; this is the REAL way the body handles
disease. (please see the link below for more information).

The type of treatment you had certainly does nothing for your immune system
to help fight off future outbreaks.  Until you deal with the underlying
cause of the disease, you will likely suffer future outbreaks.

These 'freezing' treatments are only a superficial attempt to deal with the
symptoms, not the disease.

You should be seeing either a Homeopath (my preference) or a Naturopath (not
as good imho).  Homeopathy treats the disease itself and not just the
symptoms.

Perhaps you think you know what homeopathy is and don't believe it works?
If so, then please read the info at this link:

http://www.otherhealth.com/homeopathy-list-discussion/9820-truth-about-homeopath
y-dispelling-myths-thatsurround.html


Personally, I have been using homeopathic for over 30 years and it is a far
superior way of treating illnesses, acute and chronic, as it *supports* and
*strengthens* your immune system, instead of depleting it and suppressing
disease, which is all treatments such as "freezing" can do.

mama z

>I visited the dermatologist earlier this week.  He diagnosed me with
> molluscum contagiosum. As STDs go, this one's not too bad...certainly not
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>>Hi Jimmy,
>>It is looking more and more like it's *not* herpes!
 
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