I have been plagued with CS's for as long as I can remember (I am 50),
starting out with outbreaks once or twice a year. About 16 years ago my
Dr scripted me some zovirex, and I thought that this was the holy grail,
as early application kept the lesion to a barely noticeable state and
cut it's duration time in half.
Another bonus was that the outbreaks seemed rarer after using the
topical cream, but after awhile the Zovirex seemed to be having less and
less effect, so a few years ago I got a script for Valtrex, and it was
like the first time with Zovirex, only better, the outbreak was kept to
a barely noticeable bump on the lip. Again, outbreaks seemed to be
getting further apart as well.
Well, the last few outbreaks I have had seem to be resisting Valtrex
assaults as well. After at least a year I am having an outbreak now, I
hit it with zovirex and valtrex right away, and it seems to be having
little or no effect. I have also been taking Lysine supplements the last
couple of years since they started selling them again in Canada, and I
doubled up on the lysine dose last night as well.
So, I have a few questions:
This looks to me like the virus is becoming resistant to what I treat it
with, is this possible? Is there something else I could try?
Someone else I know can knock them out before they start to fester with
lysine alone, should I up my intake of lysine?
I also got into the habit of having some valtrex on hand, my last
prescrip is just over a year old, does valtrex become less effective
after X time?
Yoshi2me - 13 Dec 2007 15:13 GMT
>I have been plagued with CS's for as long as I can remember (I am 50),
When I first read the "CS" part I was thinking to myself, "What is THAT" ? I
had not heard of "CS" before and then it dawned on me that you were
referring to "Cold Sores" which is Oral Herpes.
> This looks to me like the virus is becoming resistant to what I treat it
> with, is this possible? Is there something else I could try?
I would first have to wonder if maybe you were experiencing somthing else
altogether? What does your doctor think the reason could be?
> Someone else I know can knock them out before they start to fester with
> lysine alone, should I up my intake of lysine?
I don't know about that because too much L-lysine is bad for you and
especially since you get L-lysine from every day foods anywa. If it were me,
I would definitely have a chat with my doctor. What if it's an allergic
reaction to something and you are assuming it's an oral herpes outbreak?
> I also got into the habit of having some valtrex on hand, my last prescrip
> is just over a year old, does valtrex become less effective after X time?
I have Valtrex around my house that is probably older than my youngest
daughter and it works for me just fine. Again, this something you want to
ask your doctor about. Will you come back and let us know what your doctor
tells you?
Hang in there,
Angela

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Cye Anide - 18 Dec 2007 19:24 GMT
>> I have been plagued with CS's for as long as I can remember (I am 50),
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> Angela
How much is too much L-Lysine? My mom takes one l-lysine when she starts
to get a CS and it stops it in its tracks.
Yoshi2me - 27 Dec 2007 21:52 GMT
That's really something you should probably ask your doctor. I just know
that if you take too much it's not good. We already get Lysine in our food.
Besides... how do you know that it's the Lysine and not a coincidence?
Outbreaks will and do go away on their own too.
> How much is too much L-Lysine? My mom takes one l-lysine when she starts
> to get a CS and it stops it in its tracks.
Hello - 17 Dec 2007 18:58 GMT
I've noticed the EXACT same thing. I first took Valtrex (for cold
sores, aka Oral Herpes [type 1]) a few years ago, and it worked great -
stopped cold sores dead in their tracks: They would completely stop
progressing within 12 hours of taking a single dose.
However...my doctor at the time also prescribed Zovirex topical cream
(with refills). Well, the cream lasted a lot longer than the single
Valtrex prescription, and I used it frequently almost as a preventative
measure. I hate going to the doctor to ask for Valtrex, so I just used
the Zovirex cream for a couple of years.
Well, last summer I was getting cold sores rather frequently, so I went
to the doctor and got some more Valtrex. Now, though, my cold sores keep
progressing even after several doses of Valtrex. The last time, in
fact, I sprouted a brand new cold sore while smack in the middle of
treating another.
I think that long-term use of Zovirex cream has lead to acyclovir
resistance: The cream just doesn't have the penetration of an oral
antiviral, and so the virus gets a constant exposure to low(ish) levels
of acyclovir, which leads to resistance (IMHO.)
I think taking Valtrex (by itself) long-term is probably less likely to
lead to resistance, as the resulting acyclovir concentration is much
higher than with the topical cream.
Seriously, I would avoid using the cream at all costs.
> I have been plagued with CS's for as long as I can remember (I am 50),
> starting out with outbreaks once or twice a year. About 16 years ago my
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> prescrip is just over a year old, does valtrex become less effective
> after X time?
Faye in TX - 18 Dec 2007 18:25 GMT
I use non RX Abreva, I got it about 2 yrs ago. I use it all the time to
prevent even getting a cold sore, If i feel the itch or tingle I'll put
it on & then the cold sore won't even come out. Well after about a year,
I got on cold sore, it was very short & not as bad as in the past. Only
thing is now 2 yrs later, I use much more Abreva than I used to, I put
it on several times a week to several times a day, depending on weather,
hormones( my triggers are heat, cold & periods) i don't mind except the
cost is so high $20 for a lil bitty tube. I have only had 3 cold sores
in 2 years. But I find it seems as if I would have a ton more than i
would've in the past before i started using abreva to prevent, because i
prevent them from coming out at least 3 times a month. and before i had
like 3 a year. So i think it just causes more need to prevent, it's a
never ending cycle now..
Cye Anide - 18 Dec 2007 19:29 GMT
Thats a good point about the zovirex, I think I'll stop with it as I
usually keep a tube on hand and hit a cold sore with both. Valtrex did
the same thing with me, stopped it in its tracks, but now all it does is
keep the progression to a minimum, so its not a big festering sore
like I used to get, but barely noticeable. The sores do last the full
week+ now, but are not as bad as they used to be. Valtrex used to get
rid of them completely before I was even finished my dosage.
I think with the next one I'll try abreva as the topical treatment and
stick with the valtrex.
> I've noticed the EXACT same thing. I first took Valtrex (for cold
> sores, aka Oral Herpes [type 1]) a few years ago, and it worked great -
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>> prescrip is just over a year old, does valtrex become less effective
>> after X time?