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Valtrex - how long to take effect?

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BranLee55@yahoo.com - 19 Mar 2007 01:11 GMT
I have some questions about Valtrex.

I know that a lot of people take it to prevent breakouts.

I have never had a breakout but I would plan to take it to prevent
shedding when I do not have any blisters.
Does this sound feasable?

Now if I am not in a relationship, then there is no need to take
valtrex - since I do not have breakouts.

How long in advance do I need to take valtrex for it to start
preventing shedding when I have no blisters?

Of course it won't work the morning of, a day in advance?  A week?

Thank you
M.L.S. - 19 Mar 2007 02:06 GMT
>I have some questions about Valtrex.

>I know that a lot of people take it to prevent breakouts.

>I have never had a breakout but I would plan to take it to prevent
>shedding when I do not have any blisters.
>Does this sound feasable?

Certainly.

>Now if I am not in a relationship, then there is no need to take
>valtrex - since I do not have breakouts.

>How long in advance do I need to take valtrex for it to start
>preventing shedding when I have no blisters?

>Of course it won't work the morning of, a day in advance?  A week?

Valtrex begins working almost immediately, and stops working as soon
as the body clears it from the system, which depends on the dosage.

I've seen anywhere from a day's head start to a week recommended, but
from what I know a couple of days is probably a pretty good margin.
Valtrex stops the virus replicating as soon as it gets to it, and
that's pretty fast.  There may be some strays in the works, but the
virus doesn't move too slowly itself, so the final few will have
either clawed their way to the surface of the skin or ended up
impotent, so to speak, somewhere far, far away.

>Thank you

Yer Welcome.

Mike
M2slo2cht@nospam.invalid - 19 Mar 2007 15:15 GMT
Yo Mike!
Be sure to check out the new Agent version. It has some pretty neat
features. i.e. "Ignore Subthread".  So anyone with 4.2 could ignore
this post which automatically ignores any responses to it. Doesn't
ignore the On Topic part of the thread though.
I didn't care for 3.3 so went back to 2.0 until 4.2 came out. It's
working great. Using multiple news servers, multiple email accounts,
better crosspost management, and on and on. It's the first upgrade in
a long time I've really been enthused about.
Anyhow, haven't seen you post in awhile. Hope things are rolling well
for ya.

M2  <---- did a canoe trip yesterday. You still doing that stuff?
M.L.S. - 19 Mar 2007 16:11 GMT
>Yo Mike!
>Be sure to check out the new Agent version. It has some pretty neat
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>Anyhow, haven't seen you post in awhile. Hope things are rolling well
>for ya.

Yo M2!!!

Only recently have I gotten myself set up to read Usenet, and even had
to search around my stuff to find my 3.3 codes.  I read over all the
documentation for 4.2 and have just been stewing about whether I need
to send Forté another $19.  How many times have I already paid? Twice,
I think.  I'm not even using the multiple server stuff now, as it is.

Do you know if Global searches work any faster?  I'm always searching
for stuff I can't remember, and even with these moderno computers,
searching is about the same speed it was ten years ago (that I can
remember.)

>M2  <---- did a canoe trip yesterday. You still doing that stuff?

Good for you.  LOVE and I are chomping at the bit to get out on the
water this year.  Winter has been overly cold and dreary.  In other
years we haven't made it out before April 15, but we've got heavy wet
suits and other new gear and we're determined to pick up the paddles
this or next week at the latest.  We just want a little sunshine,
which seems to be in short supply around here.

Good to see ya, M2.  How's the hurricane ravaged coast putting itself
back together?

Mike
M2slo2cht@nospam.invalid - 19 Mar 2007 19:15 GMT
>to send Forté another $19.  How many times have I already paid? Twice,
>I think.

Three for me. Starting with version 1.5.
This one, for me anyway, is worth it since I can actually use some of
the new features.

>I'm not even using the multiple server stuff now, as it is.

That was a biggie for me. Bellsouth.net is my primary. With them, one
needs a backup lol!

>Do you know if Global searches work any faster?

I think it's supposed to but I haven't used it enough to know. When I
do, I can usually narrow the search area down enough to make it pretty
quick. I prolly need to use it more to get my money's worth.

>>M2  <---- did a canoe trip yesterday. You still doing that stuff?

>We just want a little sunshine,
>which seems to be in short supply around here.

We had plenty yesterday. It was dang near hot. I took my new friend
down a bayou south of New Orleans and saw the usual turtles,
alligators, swamp critters, loads of fish and every kind of water bird
you can imagine. It was a perfect day for it.

>How's the hurricane ravaged coast putting itself
>back together?

Welllll..... most of the debris is removed. Riding down the beach it's
hard to tell how bad it was unless you know what was there before.
Everything's just gone. Wiped clean. Practically nothing is built back
yet. Nobody has any money. If it weren't for the volunteers from all
over the country, even the peeps further inland would all still be
living in tents.
It'll come back eventually though. Then we'll get whacked again.
That's the way it's always been. And the way it'll always be.

Toodles,
M2
Yoshi2me - 20 Mar 2007 15:13 GMT
Howdy you guys!!
M2 and Mike where have you been and what have you been up to?
Has anybody heard from AR?
How is everybody doing?

Angela ;-)

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M2slo2cht@nospam.invalid - 20 Mar 2007 15:40 GMT
>M2 and Mike where have you been and what have you been up to?

Real life keeps gettin' in the way so my online days have been few and
far between. We've settled in to long term recovery mode, a different
world but it's become the normal now. Sometimes I feel like I'm on a
hamster wheel though.

>Has anybody heard from AR?

Not a peep. She'll pop back in at some point though.
Hope all's well up there.

Later Tater  ;-)
M2  <---- off to do something constructive.
Grant - 20 Mar 2007 23:48 GMT
I'm glad you're doing alright, M2.

ar

> >M2 and Mike where have you been and what have you been up to?
>
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> Later Tater  ;-)
> M2  <---- off to do something constructive.
Yoshi2me - 21 Mar 2007 14:16 GMT
> Real life keeps gettin' in the way so my online days have been few and
> far between. We've settled in to long term recovery mode, a different
> world but it's become the normal now. Sometimes I feel like I'm on a
> hamster wheel though.

I know what you mean!! As for me I have several irons heating up in my
untamed fire. Sometimes I think I have too many projects. It's good for me
though because it helps to keep me somewhat sane. :)
Grant - 20 Mar 2007 23:41 GMT
I'm here.  I'm having a rather bad time of it.  So I'm staying quiet.

ar

> Howdy you guys!!
> M2 and Mike where have you been and what have you been up to?
> Has anybody heard from AR?
> How is everybody doing?
>
> Angela ;-)
Yoshi2me - 21 Mar 2007 14:17 GMT
> I'm here.  I'm having a rather bad time of it.  So I'm staying quiet.

Sounds like you need a blog OR to send me an e-mail so you can VENT.

(((hugs)))
Grant - 21 Mar 2007 20:35 GMT
> > I'm here.  I'm having a rather bad time of it.  So I'm staying quiet.
>
> Sounds like you need a blog OR to send me an e-mail so you can VENT.
>
> (((hugs)))

Thanks.  :)  I've got a good support system going in my groups.  This is
just something I have to work through on my own, unfortunately.  Isn't
everything??

ar
Yoshi2me - 19 Mar 2007 12:30 GMT
> I have some questions about Valtrex.

Here is some Valtrex feedback if you have time:
http://yoshi2me.com/comments/valtrex.html

> I know that a lot of people take it to prevent breakouts.

I took it every day for two years to keep from having outbreaks.
Here is my herpes biography:
http://yoshi2me.com/herpes-biography.html

> I have never had a breakout but I would plan to take it to prevent
> shedding when I do not have any blisters.
> Does this sound feasable?

If you do not get outbreaks then you wouldn't have blisters, right?
If you are trying to prevent asymptomatic shedding then it's totally
understandable why you would want to be on suppressive therapy.
Last time I checked suppressive therapy with Valtrex reduced asymptomatic
shedding by about 95%.

> Now if I am not in a relationship, then there is no need to take
> valtrex - since I do not have breakouts.

Yes, that's right.
However, I am married and I do not take Valtrex unless I'm having an
outbreak.
That is a decision that me and my husband made together a long time ago.

> How long in advance do I need to take valtrex for it to start
> preventing shedding when I have no blisters?

But you said you don't get outbreaks so why do you think you are going to
get blisters?
If you are trying to protect your partner then I would start suppressive
therapy and I wouldn't have sex with my partner for the first couple of
weeks.
But, that is just me and how I would do things if I were in your situation.
What does your partner say about all of this?
Do you know your partner's status?
Has your partner been tested for herpes and other std's?

> Of course it won't work the morning of, a day in advance?  A week?

I would wait two weeks, but that's just me.

Take care,

Angela ;-)

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BranLee55@yahoo.com - 20 Mar 2007 01:11 GMT
> If you do not get outbreaks then you wouldn't have blisters, right?

Right

> If you are trying to prevent asymptomatic shedding then it's totally
> understandable why you would want to be on suppressive therapy.

yes

> > How long in advance do I need to take valtrex for it to start
> > preventing shedding when I have no blisters?
>
> But you said you don't get outbreaks so why do you think you are going to
> get blisters?

Because even with a condom and the fact I never had an outbreak (as
far as I know) its not 100% that I can't transmit.

> If you are trying to protect your partner then I would start suppressive
> therapy and I wouldn't have sex with my partner for the first couple of
> weeks.

I do not have a partner at this time, thats why I was wondering how
long I need to take Valtrex in advance.
It seems pointless to take it everyday if I have sex once every two
months.

> > Of course it won't work the morning of, a day in advance?  A week?
>
> I would wait two weeks, but that's just me.

2 weeks.
Ok so even if I have a date with potential coming up during the
weekend, its too late to start now?
Ok.
M2slo2cht@nospam.invalid - 20 Mar 2007 03:37 GMT
"Yoshi2me" wrote:
>> If you do not get outbreaks then you wouldn't have blisters, right?

BranLee55 writes:
>Right

Yoshi:
>>But you said you don't get outbreaks so why do you think you are going to
>> get blisters?

BranLee55:
>Because even with a condom and the fact I never had an outbreak (as
>far as I know) its not 100% that I can't transmit.

hmmm..... you seem to be confusing blisters and outbreaks (same thing)
with asymptomatic shedding. Which is, shedding virus without showing
any symptoms (blisters).

>I do not have a partner at this time, thats why I was wondering how
>long I need to take Valtrex in advance.
>It seems pointless to take it everyday if I have sex once every two
>months.

aha... I think I see the problem. What you need is..... a crystal ball
that tells you when you gonna get lucky.... and tells you waaay ahead
of time.

>Ok so even if I have a date with potential coming up during the
>weekend, its too late to start now?

Maybe not. But you do know that Valtrex won't cut the risk of
transmission to zero, right?
And you are planning on discussing this whole thing with the lady of
the weekend, right? Hopefully far enough ahead of time to give her a
chance to think it over rationally? And who knows, she may have a
thing or two to spring on you too. It happens. And you may want to
mull THAT over.
Anyhow, point is, it's only fair to have it all out on the table ahead
of time. And don't count on Valtrex replacing your responsibility to
deliver the "talk".

M2  (I hope I didn't screw up your plans)
BranLee55@yahoo.com - 21 Mar 2007 02:21 GMT
On Mar 19, 10:37 pm, M2slo2...@nospam.invalid wrote:
> hmmm..... you seem to be confusing blisters and outbreaks (same thing)
> with asymptomatic shedding. Which is, shedding virus without showing
> any symptoms (blisters).

I knew about asymptomatic shedding, thats why I am saying that I want
to take Valtrex to help prevent transmission even though I never had
an outbreak.

> aha... I think I see the problem. What you need is..... a crystal ball
> that tells you when you gonna get lucky.... and tells you waaay ahead
> of time.

yes.

> And you are planning on discussing this whole thing with the lady of
> the weekend, right? Hopefully far enough ahead of time to give her a

I have no plans...it was a 'What if'

> of time. And don't count on Valtrex replacing your responsibility to
> deliver the "talk".

Of course not, but even with the talk, you still want to do everything
you can to lower the risk for the other person.
Yoshi2me - 20 Mar 2007 15:18 GMT
> I do not have a partner at this time, thats why I was wondering how
> long I need to take Valtrex in advance.
> It seems pointless to take it everyday if I have sex once every two
> months.

If it were me I wouldn't worry about it then. If and when the time comes and
you think you are going to have sex then start taking the Valtrex again and
wait about a week or so (just to be on the safe side) before you have sex.

You'll want to make sure to talk to your partner about your STD status and
perhaps find out what your partner's STD status is so that you can
concentrate on not picking up any more STD's if at all possible.

> 2 weeks.
> Ok so even if I have a date with potential coming up during the
> weekend, its too late to start now?

I think if you are wanting to be casual about sex and sort of
fly-by-the-seat of your pants then you are going to need to make an effort
to not only be open and honest about everything with your partner but find
out if they want to be just as casual as you do.

Why are you so worried about it? Sure, I realize the need to do the "what
if" because I did the same thing BUT aren't you sort of torturing yourself
doing that?

Angela

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BranLee55@yahoo.com - 21 Mar 2007 02:22 GMT
> If it were me I wouldn't worry about it then. If and when the time comes and
> you think you are going to have sex then start taking the Valtrex again and
> wait about a week or so (just to be on the safe side) before you have sex.

a week, ok.

> Why are you so worried about it? Sure, I realize the need to do the "what
> if" because I did the same thing BUT aren't you sort of torturing yourself
> doing that

yes, that is a problem of mine....'paralysis by analysis'
Yoshi2me - 21 Mar 2007 14:18 GMT
'paralysis by analysis'

That sounds like a great blog title. ;)
 
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