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alfred - 11 Nov 2006 18:26 GMT
Hi Everyone,

I am using Outlook Reader now so not the Google one, at least not now. I
took a short break from here, had a lot of things to do, but i am back.

I met a new woman whom I have been dating for about 3 months now. We are
doing really well , and she's nothing like my ex (psycho woman) that I was
with. So this new person I am with doesnt have herpes, so she told me, but
she was willing to be with me knowing I have genital herpes.

We are intimate and not using condoms, because neither of us are able to
have kids. We were together a day before I got a big outbreak, but she still
didnt get it so thats good. We did have somewhat of a scare a few days after
we had sex, and that was that about 3 days later she became sore down on her
privates and irritated. It lasted a week for her and that was it, but never
happened again. So I don't know what that means, but I hope nothng happened.

Anyway, nothing much going on here. I'm getting more into working out and
staying healthy. I just thought I'd say hi to y'all. Angela, Ar, M2, Mike S.
Eric and Perl.

Later,
Al
Gary Paulsen - 12 Nov 2006 00:50 GMT
Hey Al, have you ever tried L-LYSINE? I just started seeing a woman that
has genital herpes, l get "cold sores" and taking a 500mg tab at the
first sign, for me, a little tingling/burning spot, somewhere around my
lips and have caught them all, since l found out about lysine, not 1
sore since, will it work for her?  PLEASE, anyone, if you have any info,
mail me, Pdog60@webtv. net  THANKS, G
Yoshi2me - 13 Nov 2006 14:48 GMT
> Hey Al, have you ever tried L-LYSINE?

Here is some feedback from people that have actually tried L-lysine to try
and treat their herpes:
http://www.yoshi2me.com/comments/l-lysine.html

You can also vote for L-lysine here:
http://www.yoshi2me.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=2667

> I just started seeing a woman that
> has genital herpes, l get "cold sores" and taking a 500mg tab at the
> first sign, for me, a little tingling/burning spot, somewhere around my
> lips and have caught them all, since l found out about lysine, not 1
> sore since, will it work for her?

First of all... how does your lady know that it's the l-lysine working for
her for sure? Genital herpes type-1 tends to be not as severe or intense as
genital herpes type-2. So maybe her lack of symptoms has more to do with
other factors such as this OR perhaps she's had the virus for a long time
and her body has adjusted to it accordingly.

> PLEASE, anyone, if you have any info,
> mail me, Pdog60@webtv. net  THANKS, G

Lots of really good information on those links that I shared.

Good luck,

Angela
grant - 12 Nov 2006 01:10 GMT
Al,

Why are you not using condoms?  You know that's pretty stupid, right?  And
you know enough to understand that she sure might have gotten herpes from
you and not be showing any symptoms.

Use your brain.  Use a condom.

ar

> Hi Everyone,
>
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> Later,
> Al
alfred - 13 Nov 2006 03:13 GMT
Hi Ar and Gary,

Well to answer the first question, I have used Lysine and it has helped a
little at most. Mostly I have noticed that it makes the outbreak symptoms
less annoying, but doesnt control it all together.

Anyway, I'm doing alot better in general. I am not "usually" getting alot of
outbreaks. Now I get some minor symptoms here and there that don't do much
other than some occasional itching and a slight raw area or two. Mostly I
get no more than 1 Outbreak every 2 months or so, maybe even less, it
depends.

Ar, as far as the condom use (or not using) its because I know for a fact
that I do not have any other diseases and even had an AIDS test in May and
it was NEG. I only have genital herpes and HPV. The person I am seeing also
has HPV, but she doesnt have genital herpes or anything else, from what she
told me.

She knows I have herpes, I made it very clear. She and I both don't like
condoms, because of the feel. She told me that she wouldnt want to get
herpes from me, but she was willing to get herpes from me if it happened.

When that soreness and irritation happened to her 3 days after we had sex,
she was a little nervous and so was I. I'm thinking it wasnt from rough sex,
because 1. we didnt have rough sex, and 2. it started three days later and
lasted a whole week. I really hope I didnt give her herpes, but she told me
that if I did its completely okay, because she knew what I have and was
willing to be with me.

We are really thinking of being together for a very long time, I mean like
as in marriage. So I don't want to sound selfish, but if we are both in
agreeance of herpes and both spending out lives together its okay.

She actually knows alot about herpes because her daughter also has it and
she read alot about it prior to me meeting her. Both she and I are still
baffled about the "after three days" incident though.

Al

> Al,
>
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>
> ar
Yoshi2me - 13 Nov 2006 14:52 GMT
> Ar, as far as the condom use (or not using) its because I know for a fact
> that I do not have any other diseases and even had an AIDS test in May and
> it was NEG. I only have genital herpes and HPV. The person I am seeing
> also has HPV, but she doesnt have genital herpes or anything else, from
> what she told me.

That's the think Al ~ you're going on "what she told you" and that's just
not good enough. Wouldn't you agree?

Angela

http://yoshi2me.com - Herpes Help
http://yoshi2me.com/phpbb/index.php - STD Talk
alfred - 13 Nov 2006 18:51 GMT
Hi Angela,

Well I suppose you have a point there. I guess the person I am seeing could
have been exposed to HSV during her life and thats why she may be immune to
getting it from me. You never know.

Al

>> Ar, as far as the condom use (or not using) its because I know for a fact
>> that I do not have any other diseases and even had an AIDS test in May
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> http://yoshi2me.com - Herpes Help
> http://yoshi2me.com/phpbb/index.php - STD Talk
Yoshi2me - 13 Nov 2006 22:13 GMT
Possible exposure has nothing to do with it Al.

Angela

> Hi Angela,
>
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>> http://yoshi2me.com - Herpes Help
>> http://yoshi2me.com/phpbb/index.php - STD Talk
Yoshi2me - 13 Nov 2006 14:49 GMT
I with AR on this one. I'm a little surprised that you would take such a big
risk Al.

Angela

> Al,
>
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>> Later,
>> Al
Yoshi2me - 13 Nov 2006 14:43 GMT
> I met a new woman whom I have been dating for about 3 months now. We are
> doing really well , and she's nothing like my ex (psycho woman) that I was
> with. So this new person I am with doesnt have herpes, so she told me, but
> she was willing to be with me knowing I have genital herpes.

And when was your date made to go and get tested for all std's together?
You just took her word for it that she doesn't have herpes or anything else?

> We are intimate and not using condoms, because neither of us are able to
> have kids.

Oh, well what about contracting other std's that you can't always see or
feel... like HIV?

> We were together a day before I got a big outbreak, but she still didnt
> get it so thats good.

How do you know that she didn't get it? How do you know for sure that she
doesn't have it? How do you know for sure that she doesn't have other std's?
Just because she "thinks" she's std free doesn't mean that she is. If she is
being this free with you then you can probably imagine just how freely she
has been with her past partners.

> We did have somewhat of a scare a few days after we had sex, and that was
> that about 3 days later she became sore down on her privates and
> irritated. It lasted a week for her and that was it, but never happened
> again. So I don't know what that means, but I hope nothng happened.

Yeah, that's it - you don't know what that means. Did she go to the doctor
to get checked out? Do you guys even care about any of this?

Angela

http://yoshi2me.com - Herpes Help
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alfred - 13 Nov 2006 18:56 GMT
> Oh, well what about contracting other std's that you can't always see or
> feel... like HIV?

At this point in my life I've already been with alot of people, so I know I
could still get HIV, but to tell you the truth its not a death sentense
anymore so if it happened I'd deal with it.

If she is
> being this free with you then you can probably imagine just how freely she
> has been with her past partners.

We waited 6 weeks before we were intimate.

> Yeah, that's it - you don't know what that means. Did she go to the doctor
> to get checked out? Do you guys even care about any of this?

No, but we're okay, and she is okay with my situation.
Yoshi2me - 13 Nov 2006 22:26 GMT
>> Oh, well what about contracting other std's that you can't always see or
>> feel... like HIV?
>
> At this point in my life I've already been with alot of people, so I know
> I could still get HIV, but to tell you the truth its not a death sentense
> anymore so if it happened I'd deal with it.

Just because you've had sex with a lot of people doesn't mean that you have
HIV. You either have it or you don't and if you don't then why would you
want to risk contracting it just because you feel like you've slept around?

You're right, contracting HIV is not necessarily a death sentence but that's
no reason to settle for contracting it if you don't have to. Besides, you
have no idea how your immune system would react to HIV anyway.

> If she is
>> being this free with you then you can probably imagine just how freely
>> she has been with her past partners.
>
> We waited 6 weeks before we were intimate.

6 weeks, 1 year ~ who cares? Don't you feel that the both of you have a
right to know your std status without a shadow of a doubt?

>> Yeah, that's it - you don't know what that means. Did she go to the
>> doctor to get checked out? Do you guys even care about any of this?
>
> No, but we're okay, and she is okay with my situation.

Well, if the two of you are "ok" with what you are doing then who am I to
judge, right?

I just felt that you could have been a little smarter about it is all..

Angela

http://yoshi2me.com - Herpes Help
http://yoshi2me.com/phpbb/index.php - STD Talk
M2slo2cht@nospam.invalid - 13 Nov 2006 16:34 GMT
>just thought I'd say hi to y'all. Angela, Ar, M2, Mike S.
>Eric and Perl.

Hi back Al,
glad to hear things are going well with you.
Since I'm here, guess I'll throw in my 2 cents with everyone else  ;-)
And I agree with everyone so far, especially regarding the condoms.
Granted, once you know for sure it's a long term thing, no chance of
it ending, the condoms are less an issue. At least it would be for my
way of thinking if I were in your shoes, I'd also want to know for
sure what her hsv status is. Right now she's guessing so you are too
and you don't really have to do that. A blood test isn't all that
expensive or hard to get.
Maybe someday soon there will be a microbiocide on the market that can
replace condoms as the barrier of choice. Until then though, I'd stick
with the condoms unless you find out for sure she's positive for the
same type hsv as yours.
Welcome back and good luck with your new love life  ;-)

M2
alfred - 13 Nov 2006 19:03 GMT
I'd also want to know for
> sure what her hsv status is. Right now she's guessing so you are too
> and you don't really have to do that. A blood test isn't all that
> expensive or hard to get.

True, but if she has herpes, then she can't get it and I can't either, and
if she doesnt have herpes then she can get it, but she said she was aware of
the dangers and has accepted it already. She said that during the 6 weeks
that we waited to have sex, she was sorting out in her mind if she was able
to take the risk of getting it. Then after 6 weeks she told me she was and
now we are together.

I might have already given her herpes, and she said that its true I might
have after the scare we had, but now she's over it and okay with it.

I know we arent married, but married couples don't usually use condoms
unless they are trying to prevent pregnancy and we arent able to have kids.
We are however thinking about marriage.

Al
M2slo2cht@nospam.invalid - 13 Nov 2006 19:38 GMT
M2:
> I'd also want to know for
>> sure what her hsv status is.

>True, but if she has herpes, then she can't get it and I can't either, and
>if she doesnt have herpes then she can get it, but she said she was aware of
>the dangers and has accepted it already. She said that during the 6 weeks
>that we waited to have sex,

ok, fine, but.......

>I might have already given her herpes, and she said that its true I might
>have after the scare we had,

You make my point here better than I did.
Using your logic, there never should have been a "scare" because "she
was aware of the dangers and has accepted it already".

>but now she's over it and okay with it.

Wanna bet? Next time you have a close call, I'll bet she (and you)
won't handle it with absolutely no stress and no worry, the way your
logic tells you you should, even though your logic makes sense.
Sometimes it just doesn't work that way. Which brings me back to my
point, which is, Knowing where you both stand, as far as hsv status is
concerned, *can* eliminate the worry  ... but, that's just me.

M2
grant - 13 Nov 2006 21:21 GMT
All I'm hearing is a selfish man making excuses not to use condoms.

ar
grant - 13 Nov 2006 20:11 GMT
> I know we arent married, but married couples don't usually use condoms
> unless they are trying to prevent pregnancy and we arent able to have
> kids. We are however thinking about marriage.
>
> Al

Really?  How do you know married couples don't usually use condoms.  I did.

ar
Yoshi2me - 13 Nov 2006 22:32 GMT
Married couples use condoms all the time.

Angela :)

>> I know we arent married, but married couples don't usually use condoms
>> unless they are trying to prevent pregnancy and we arent able to have
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>
> ar
alfred - 15 Nov 2006 14:35 GMT
I am sure there are married couples that use condoms, but I am not one of
them. I have never liked condoms because they are too tight and they loose
alot of feeling. I've had alot of parteners and unfortunately had gotten a
few more things besides herpes in my time, but luckily thats all I am left
with now.

My girlfriend and I am really okay with what our status is. I was just
wondering about with what happened that time we were together after 3 days,
but I don't know...

Al

> Married couples use condoms all the time.
>
> Angela :)
Yoshi2me - 16 Nov 2006 13:26 GMT
Well, if you are ok with not knowing her status for std's then what can you
do, ya know? As far as possible symptoms go there is no sense in racking
your brain trying to figure it out since everything is just pretty much
hunky dory.. ya know?

Angela

>I am sure there are married couples that use condoms, but I am not one of
>them. I have never liked condoms because they are too tight and they loose
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>>
>> Angela :)
M2slo2cht@nospam.invalid - 16 Nov 2006 19:40 GMT
>I was just
>wondering about with what happened that time we were together after 3 days,
>but I don't know...

.... hmmm ...... might help if you rephrased the question.
What were you were wondering??

M2
alfred - 17 Nov 2006 01:01 GMT
Hi M2,

Well according to my girlfriend she is not worried that we had that incident
after 3 days that lasted a week, because it never happened again. I was the
one that was wondering what exactly happened to her. Maybe it was just that
she wasnt used to sex. She described it as "pain down there, and soreness"
and it lasted a week and there were red areas on her privates she said. If I
gave her herpes, then wouldnt she have had another outbreak by now since it
was her first time? Although maybe not, I know herpes is unpredictable. Plus
she could have already had it and have been having a regular outbreak.

Al

> .... hmmm ...... might help if you rephrased the question.
> What were you were wondering??
>
> M2
M2slo2cht@nospam.invalid - 17 Nov 2006 02:57 GMT
>wouldnt she have had another outbreak by now since it
>was her first time?

Nope. Not necessarily.

>Although maybe not, I know herpes is unpredictable.

Unpredictable is an understatement.  But it *is* detectible (with a
blood test). So if you'd like to know.... and I think you both
should.... now would be a good time for a blood test or two.  If it's
positive now, no more worrying and wondering.  If it's negative now
but another one in 12-16 weeks is positive, the "scare" was probably
an hsv  transfer. If it's negative now and still negative in 12-16
weeks, the "scare" was something else, no telling what, but she might
want to check into that further.

M2
Yoshi2me - 17 Nov 2006 12:59 GMT
There is only ONE way to find out if she has herpes or not.

Angela

http://yoshi2me.com - Herpes Help
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> Hi M2,
>
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>>
>> M2
nightowl - 17 Nov 2006 14:14 GMT
Al,

Although I don't post often, your continued non-chalance has prompted
me to.  You've had HSV and HPV for a long time is my understanding, so
for you to still have all these questions (i.e. "wouldn't she have had
another outbreak by now..") kind of puzzles me.

Since you guys waited 3 months to have sex, it might have been wise for
both of you (especially you given your health concerns already) to go
take a quick, easy test.  You have had a myriad of health issues
apparently, and for you to not want to know every detail regarding this
woman's sexual health is a little baffling.

I'm glad that you're "okay" with your status and hers.  But I'd hate
for others reading your posts to take this kind of attitude.  Knowledge
is everything, especially when dealing with STD's.  I guess what I'm
saying is, it's nothing I will ever take lightly again, and I will
encourage everyone I know to do the same.

I am happy that you think you may have finally found "the one"....we
all know you've been diligently looking for her....  :)

But for everyone else reading these posts, and especially to those of
you new to HSV, it doesn't take long and it's not difficult for new
couples to get an HSV test (plus all other STDS), so please do that for
yourselves!

Happy Thanksgiving to you all!
Michelle

> Hi M2,
>
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> >
> > M2
 
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