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Rose - 14 Sep 2006 06:39 GMT
Hi. I'm new here. I've been lurking and read a post where a woman was
sure she'd contracted the herpes virus several years prior to finding
out she had it. Something similar happened to me, and I'm wondering how
common this is. Can you actually contract the herpes virus and have no
symptoms (or such mild symptoms) that it can go undetected for several
years or more?

I was 29 and well into my second marriage before I found out I had
herpes. Let me tell you, that was a hard one to explain to my husband!
I'm not sure he ever really believed me either. There wasn't very much
info available at the time, so I had no medical evidence to back me up.
He was a "good sport" about it, but I always got the feeling he thought
I'd cheated on him and was creating some elaborate story to explain the
trouble I'd gotten myself into. That's the one thing that bothered me
most about the whole thing really.

Well, thanks. Rose
Tim Fitzmaurice - 14 Sep 2006 07:53 GMT
> Hi. I'm new here. I've been lurking and read a post where a woman was
> sure she'd contracted the herpes virus several years prior to finding
> out she had it. Something similar happened to me, and I'm wondering how
> common this is.

Very. Most people (80-90%) get the virus and trot along with it without an
outbreak - until the point later when some serious stressor is enough to
reactivate it.

> Can you actually contract the herpes virus and have no
> symptoms (or such mild symptoms) that it can go undetected for several
> years or more?

Yes.

Tim
--
When playing rugby, its not the winning that counts, but the taking apart
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grant - 14 Sep 2006 10:27 GMT
Hi Rose,

It happens all the time.  People can carry the virus and never have symptoms
until one day, something triggers the first outbreak, or a stronger outbreak
that is noticeable.

It's unfortunate that more people aren't aware of this because it can cause
trouble in marriages when one partner suddenly shows up with a disease they
never had before.

ar

> Hi. I'm new here. I've been lurking and read a post where a woman was
> sure she'd contracted the herpes virus several years prior to finding
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>
> Well, thanks. Rose
Yoshi2me - 14 Sep 2006 14:35 GMT
> Hi. I'm new here. I've been lurking and read a post where a woman was
> sure she'd contracted the herpes virus several years prior to finding
> out she had it. Something similar happened to me, and I'm wondering how
> common this is. Can you actually contract the herpes virus and have no
> symptoms (or such mild symptoms) that it can go undetected for several
> years or more?

Yes, many people have genital herpes and don't even know that they have it.

> I was 29 and well into my second marriage before I found out I had
> herpes. Let me tell you, that was a hard one to explain to my husband!
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> trouble I'd gotten myself into. That's the one thing that bothered me
> most about the whole thing really.

Well, isn't it true that it could have been your husband that had herpes all
along and passed it to you eventually?
The possibilities are endless at this point, ya know?

Hang in there,

Angela

http://yoshi2me.com
Rose - 15 Sep 2006 06:04 GMT
> Well, isn't it true that it could have been your husband that had herpes all
> along and passed it to you eventually?
> The possibilities are endless at this point, ya know?

Hi Angela: Yeah ... I'd kind of wondered about that too. I've even
wondered if he /did/ know he had it and that's why he was often
"unavailable" for spontaneous romance (and this was prior to my
diagnosis). I should've insisted we both go for testing, but he was so
nonchalant about the whole thing, I just counted my lucky stars and
didn't push the matter.

Thanks to all for your kind responses. Rose
Yoshi2me - 15 Sep 2006 16:43 GMT
Does it really matter who you contracted it from? The important thing is
that you know that you have it and now you just have to figure out how you
are not going to let this run your life, right?

Hang in there, k?

Angela :)

http://yoshi2me.com

>> Well, isn't it true that it could have been your husband that had herpes
>> all
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> Thanks to all for your kind responses. Rose
loss - 18 Sep 2006 15:39 GMT
> Hi. I'm new here. I've been lurking and read a post where a woman was
> sure she'd contracted the herpes virus several years prior to finding
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>
> Well, thanks. Rose

Hi Rose, its me . I'm the one you're referring to...
I too would love to hear about more cases like ours.

My fiance was very understanding, he was tested immediately and was
NEGATIVE, much to my surprise.  We have been together for 6 years, we
are both in our 40s; how in the world has he rememained negative?
Is this because even though you can pass on HSV when there are no
symptoms -  it is actually very rare?
My doctor has also reassured me that I may never have another outbreak,
I was under tremendous stress when the outbreak occured.
Is there anyone else with similar circumstances?
Rose has your husband remain HSV free?

thanks S
grant - 18 Sep 2006 15:51 GMT
> Hi Rose, its me . I'm the one you're referring to...
> I too would love to hear about more cases like ours.
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>
> thanks S

Yes, you can pass herpes on when you are not showing any signs of an
outbreak.  That's called asymptomatic shedding.  But it only happens an
estimated 3% of the time.  I have no idea if that is a year, or what.
Anyway, the longer you have herpes, the less asymptomatic shedding will
occur.

My ex and I were together for 17 years.  He never showed signs of getting
herpes.

Other factors in whether or not it gets passed on are what type of herpes
the person has--which is why we always recommend you find out if you have
type 1 or type 2--it really makes a difference.  And how healthy each
individual's immune system is.

Stress if the most common trigger for herpes outbreaks.

ar
loss - 18 Sep 2006 16:34 GMT
> > Hi Rose, its me . I'm the one you're referring to...
> > I too would love to hear about more cases like ours.
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>
> ar

Well that makes me feel better, I never heard an actual precentage
before.  I hope that figure is true. The way HSV2 is hyped about in the
media  - it makes it sound like we are lepers to be shunned.  Which IS
NOT true.
I am beginning to feel "normal" again emotionally and physically.
grant - 18 Sep 2006 17:09 GMT
> Well that makes me feel better, I never heard an actual precentage
> before.  I hope that figure is true. The way HSV2 is hyped about in the
> media  - it makes it sound like we are lepers to be shunned.  Which IS
> NOT true.
> I am beginning to feel "normal" again emotionally and physically.

I'm glad you're feeling better.  :)  It does take awhile to adjust.

It is scary to know you can pass it on without having symptoms.  But the
truth is that asymptomatic shedding doesn't happen all that often.  However,
tell that to the person who got when their partner was showing no symptoms!
:)

Good luck to you.

ar
Tim Fitzmaurice - 19 Sep 2006 10:22 GMT
> My fiance was very understanding, he was tested immediately and was
> NEGATIVE, much to my surprise.  We have been together for 6 years, we
> are both in our 40s; how in the world has he rememained negative?
> Is this because even though you can pass on HSV when there are no
> symptoms -  it is actually very rare?

The rate of transmission if you avoid sex around outbreaks is of the order
of 5-10% chance per year as a population average in the US. Assume 10%
chance of transmission and that means the chance of him not having picked
it up after 6 years is around 53%.

Now numbers can be easily misrepresented, or rather over used one way
or another. Numbers like this do NOT mean 'It won't happen first time
or in a one off'. But it does give an answer to 'How in the world has he
remained negative' after 6 years. The observed frequency of transmission
is such that it is possible.

Tim
--
When playing rugby, its not the winning that counts, but the taking apart
ICQ: 5178568
 
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