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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Herpes / August 2006My Radio Interview on Holistic health Nation
The first part of my radio interview with Daryl Kulak of Holistic Health nation is up on his site at http://www.holistichealthnation.com. The show mostly focuses on contrasting the difference in treating herpes with drug therapy and treating herpes with an individualized holistic treatment plan. christopher scipio homeopath/herbalist holistic viral specialist http://www.natropractica.com http://www.herpesbook.com > The first part of my radio interview with Daryl Kulak of Holistic > Health nation is up on his site at http://www.holistichealthnation.com. > > The show mostly focuses on contrasting the difference in treating > herpes with drug therapy and treating herpes with an individualized > holistic treatment plan. I listened to your radio talk and it was informative and well organized. Its good that people know that there are other alternatives to controling herpes, although I think for people with really severe outbreaks might need something like valtrex. I wasnt aware of the Yoga as a way to supress herpes, so I am going to look into that since it is readily available. When is the second series going to be available? Also, what about working out in a gym with the bike or weights? Would you consider that a way of stress reduction to reduce outbreaks? Al >Also, what about working out in a gym with the bike or weights? Would >you consider that a way of stress reduction to reduce outbreaks? Most anything that helps your immune system and/or reduces stress, emotional or physical, is a good thing that will help to ameliorate herpes symptoms. Exercise, eating well, getting enough sleep and actively de-stressing all pay definite benefits. You mentioned Yoga, I've used TaiChi and meditation to help with stress. Rajah, webmaster for htp://racoon.com/herpes > Most anything that helps your immune system and/or reduces stress, > emotional or physical, is a good thing that will help to ameliorate > herpes symptoms. Okay thanks, I will keep that in mind. > Exercise, eating well, getting enough sleep and actively de-stressing > all pay definite benefits. You mentioned Yoga, I've used TaiChi and > meditation to help with stress. I heard about Tai Chi, isnt that more form than a martial art like Karate? Is that something that can be learned without a class? Meditation too? > Rajah, webmaster for htp://racoon.com/herpes Hi Rajah, I havent been on racoon in a while. I heard you were there at Bobstock, how was it? Al >I heard about Tai Chi, isnt that more form than a martial art like >Karate? Is that something that can be learned without a class? >Meditation too? Yes, it's considered generally to be a martial art, but that depends on how it's taught and what you do with it. As a martial art, it's more defensive than offensive.. Most people seem to use it for the physical/mental benefits. In some ways, too, it's meditation since you must concentrate on the forms when you are practicing. There are books and DVDs that help, but it's really best when done with a good instructor. My introduction to it was a class sponsored by a local Yoga center. >Hi Rajah, I havent been on racoon in a while. I heard you were there >at Bobstock, how was it? Wasn't me there. I don't even know what Bobstock is.. LOL > Yes, it's considered generally to be a martial art, but that depends > on how it's taught and what you do with it. As a martial art, it's [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > instructor. My introduction to it was a class sponsored by a local > Yoga center. Maybe I'll look into both. My gym that I belong to, but never seem to go to, offers yoga and they could offer Tai Chi but I will see. As far as bobstock, its a big party which includes games, cookout, bonfire and sleepover in central massachusetts. They have it once a year, and about 100+ people attend. Most everyone going to it has herpes or hpv. I think there was another Roger in Boston Beantown Friends that I got you mixed up with, sorry... Al > >Hi Rajah, I havent been on racoon in a while. I heard you were there > >at Bobstock, how was it? > Wasn't me there. I don't even know what Bobstock is.. LOL Al ~ Everybody's triggers are different. Stress, anything that causes stress, or working out is not always going to be an outbreak trigger for everybody. The only way to know if these things are going to trigger an outbreak for you would be to wait-n-see. Angela  Signature"By opening up to a partner and talking about an STD diagnosis you are showing that you respect and care about yourself as well as the other person." Herpes Help http://yoshi2me.com/index.html Shut Up & Post! http://yoshi2me.com/phpbb/index.php Herpes Blog http://herpes-help.blogspot.com/ > Also, what about working out in a gym with the bike or weights? Would > you consider that a way of stress reduction to reduce outbreaks? > > Al The second part will be available next wed. Unfortunately the gym doesnt seem to have a lot of benefits for herpes, you need something that relaxes you and tonifies your nervous system so what seems to work best is yoga, tai chi, qi gong, martial arts, any racquet sport, and punching a punching bag. The best thing to do is to learn how to do a simple 20 minute hatha routine by getting a tape, dvd or book and doing it 5 times a week or more, everyone who has ever tried this has greatly benefitted from it in more ways than just helping to control herpes. And you don't need valtrex even if you have the most severe cases of herpes, but certainly it's a option. regards christopher p,s, I have over 4 hours of different radio interviews I have done archived on my site in case you ever want to check them out, and I will be doing more. http://www.natropractica.com > > The first part of my radio interview with Daryl Kulak of Holistic > > Health nation is up on his site at http://www.holistichealthnation.com. [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Al Okay Chris thank you. I will look into those broadcasts. I like to learn as much as I can expecially about medicine and herpes. Angela, I think stress is a trigger for me so maybe meditation would help. I know when my company went through a large merger last year we were all stressed out wondering if we were going to laid off and I had all those problems from herpes. It was really bad!!! Maybe I'll see you on Yahoo IM at some point. Al :) > The second part will be available next wed. > [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > > > > Al natropractica, > Unfortunately the gym doesnt seem to have a lot of benefits for herpes, > you need something that relaxes you and tonifies your nervous system so > what seems to work best is yoga, tai chi, qi gong, martial arts, any > racquet sport, and punching a punching bag. Relaxes you and tonifies your nervous system? Give me a break. You are an unscrupulous, phony salesman who is looking to take advantage of people suffering to bilk people out of money and distract them from real medical treatments. > The best thing to do is to learn how to do a simple 20 minute hatha > routine by getting a tape, dvd or book and doing it 5 times a week or > more, everyone who has ever tried this has greatly benefitted from it > in more ways than just helping to control herpes. Ah ha, the 20 minute simple routine that you made up and are selling to rip people off. Just like the $90 dollar vials of your treatment which have no clinical testing, no guarantee of purity, safety, efficacy, or what exactly it even is. This is dangerous, deceiving, greedy, and preying on people who are hurting physically and emotionally. You disgust me! > And you don't need valtrex even if you have the most severe cases of > herpes, but certainly it's a option. You are utterly unqualified to say this, and I sincerely hope that everyone on here can see you as the "snake oil salesman" that you are and certainly that nobody takes you serious! ~Eric > natropractica, >> And you don't need valtrex even if you have the most severe cases of [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > ~Eric Eric, No one NEEDS Valtrex. It's an option if people want it but many of us have never used it. ar Well no one NEEDS to go blind from ocular herpes or have worse complications in a newborn by listening to garbage about potions and lotions which don't work, are potentially dangerous, and are pushed by unscrupulous sleaze bags under the pretense of "holistic medicine" as somehow a legitimate alternative to FDA approved antiviral drugs. I have never used Valtrex or any antivirals because I have never needed them, but it is unconscionable to attempt to prey on people who are hurting both emotionally and physically and attempt to sell them small vials of God-knows-what which will have zero effectiveness, can be unsafe to use, and distracting from drugs which are legitimate and can offer people the treatment they need and deserve. ~Eric > Eric, > > No one NEEDS Valtrex. It's an option if people want it but many of us have > never used it. > > ar Drugs nearly killed me. Yes, doctor prescribed. Holistic and alternative medicines have saved me. I'm not familar with what this person is selling. And I believe that people should be warned against phonies on the internet. However, please be very careful about what and who you attack. If it weren't for alternatives, I'd be dead right now. ar > Well no one NEEDS to go blind from ocular herpes or have worse > complications in a newborn by listening to garbage about potions and [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] >> >> ar I don't know what drugs you were on, but I'll bet they certainly weren't acyclovir or valtrex or any antivirals. I'm glad to hear that you have had some success with alternative medicine, but more often than not it is unregulated, potentially dangerous, and almost always a rip off. I am familiar with what this person is doing, IMHO he is preying on hsv-stricken people to take advantage of them. I believe that people should be able to come to a support forum and not be confronted with unscrupulous snake oil salesman here. This is for support, not underhanded sales! So I am being very careful about what I am saying. I am saying precisely this: he is trying to sell potions and lotions of unknown composition, purity, safety, efficacy to people, period. Form your own conclusions.. ~Eric > Drugs nearly killed me. Yes, doctor prescribed. Holistic and alternative > medicines have saved me. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > ar There was a woman here who suffered from a stroke after taking Valtrex. I know you wish to become a doctor but, please, a really good doctor looks at the whole picture without bias. A really good doctor admits that alternatives are the way to go sometimes for certain patients. Doctors who believe that all people respond the same to the same meds is a bad doctor. Naturapatica, is that how he presents his name? I can't remember. Anyway, he's been around here for quite a few years. Much longer than you have. You might not like what he sells, but he has posted some good articles. There ARE snake oil sales people who come here and post an ad. They don't stick around like this guy does. He is out there being active in the world of herpes. Diet and exercise will go a long way in helping people with herpes. ar >I don't know what drugs you were on, but I'll bet they certainly > weren't acyclovir or valtrex or any antivirals. I'm glad to hear that [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] >> >> ar > There was a woman here who suffered from a stroke after taking Valtrex. I'm sorry to hear that, I don't know the surrounding details, but what do you propose to do? Condemn Valtrex and go out to the woods and grind up some twigs and bark and put that on the lesion or put that in your eye? Acyclovir and its family is the best we have right now and there is an extremely low incidence of side effects, much lower even than antibiotics. > I know you wish to become a doctor but, please, a really good doctor looks at > the whole picture without bias. A really good doctor admits that > alternatives are the way to go sometimes for certain patients. Doctors who > believe that all people respond the same to the same meds is a bad doctor. Here's the whole picture w/o bias: I understand that every drug has side effects and I'm a fan of taking as few drugs as possible. But with Valtrex and other FDA tested and approved medicine you are at least guaranteed of purity, usually effectiveness, and there is always extensive clinical testing done to try to assure the safety of the medicine as well. Are there drugs like Thalidomide and Vioxx which have been later pulled off the market? Absolutely. But what's the alternative here? Taking something which could be poison, of which you have NO guarantee of safety, efficacy, or even what the f--- it is? > Naturapatica, is that how he presents his name? I can't remember. Anyway, > he's been around here for quite a few years. Much longer than you have. What is your point here? Just because the guy has been peddling his potential poison to people (a little alliteration thrown in!) longer than I have been here he is somehow justified in selling God only knows what and potentially harming people and certainly ripping them off? Can you possibly be implying this? > You might not like what he sells, but he has posted some good articles. > There ARE snake oil sales people who come here and post an ad. They don't > stick around like this guy does. He is out there being active in the world > of herpes. I'd love to see his articles. I bet they're peer reviewed in the Journal of Toxicology! LOL. Go to his website and see how he just picks random leaves and boils them in Jamaican Rum (of which he is certainly drinking at the time!) in a clay pot made of clay that he has dug out of the ground just like his ancestors. You can read the rest at: http://www.natropractica.com/remedies.html If you wish to consider him an active researcher and healer in the world of herpes you can go right ahead and do that. > Diet and exercise will go a long way in helping people with herpes. I agree with you 100%, diet and exercise be extremely helpful both physically and mentally. ~Eric Hi Eric, My point to you is that you need to keep a more open mind. I do not like the antivirals, but I recommend them anyway--for the reasons you mentioned. I am able to put my own personal bias against medicine aside in order to give all options to people looking for them. I'm asking that you do the same. You don't have to recommend alternative therapies, but you shouldn't make a decision for someone based on your own biases. I took offense at your angry attitude. Whereas a simple mention of how you believe tried and true antivirals are the better solution would have worked just as well. ar >> There was a woman here who suffered from a stroke after taking Valtrex. > [quoted text clipped - 57 lines] > > ~Eric > Hi Eric, > > My point to you is that you need to keep a more open mind. My point to you is that my mind is open and as I just mentioned, I don't believe in taking any more meds than necessary at all, and I very strongly believe in healthy exercise and I have the highest level of respect for physicians such as Dr. Weil who practice with a focus on natural medicine and care for the entire person. > I don't like the antivirals, but I recommend them anyway--for the reasons you > I am able to put my own personal bias against medicine aside in order to > give all options to people looking for them. There is no personal bias here. This guy is a crook, pure and simple, and by making statements such as "valtrex isn't even needed in the worst cases" he is giving out wrong and potentially dangerous information. Imagine someone who is pregnant with herpes or who has ocular herpes actually coming here and reading such trash and buying some of his lotions and potions and losing their sight or worse.. > I'm asking that you do the same. You don't have to recommend alternative > therapies, but you shouldn't make a decision for someone based on your own > biases. I am recommending alternative therapies by seeking licensed physicians such as Dr. Weil and other health care providers. You can make whatever choice you want to..if you choose to elevate this crook to the status of a healer or researcher, go for it! My concern is that this thug will convince people in need of medical attention to buy his garbage or will poison someone with his miraculous roots and shoots..understand? > I took offense at your angry attitude. Whereas a simple mention of > how you believe tried and true antivirals are the better solution would have > worked just as well. Well I took offense to your implication about being a "bad doctor". Crooks who prey on emotionally and physically hurting people, many of which turn to us for accurate information and help, tend to anger me just a tad bit. You need to realize that the berries this guy is picking and selling as a "cure for herpes" (which is total bullshit) could very well injure a person's health! That's not to mention all of the people who put a few dabs of this guy's potion on them and then actually think they are cured and go around acting as if they really were! Can't you understand that? ~Eric > Well I took offense to your implication about being a "bad doctor". > Crooks who prey on emotionally and physically hurting people, many of [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > ~Eric I understand it, Eric. You, however, don't seem to understand me. So, nevermind. Next time a doctor nearly kills me with their crap and lack of understanding, I'll give you a call. ar Hi Eric, Well I am finally back, got a new computer and back online after my old one had major problems. As far as Valtrex, I have used it in 500 mg and 1000 mg strengths and I didnt notice that big an improvement but probably because I was only taking it for a short time and when I started my outbreak was already underway. I found Valtrex to make me tired and dizzy and give me a headache, but no other side effects really. I didnt even have to use it during my prednisone usage period, but maybe there are some that need it more. I think for many its a personal preference. I like to control my herpes with diet and stress reduction and taking lysine if extreme cases. I still get 1-2 outbreaks a month, but only a few major ones a year. Most of the outbreaks are limited to itchy, swollen red areas so I deal with. I think there is a lot of good in holistic alternatives. Al > Hi Eric, > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > probably because I was only taking it for a short time and when I > started my outbreak was already underway. Glad to have you back Al! In order for Valtrex to be most effective, it must be taken at the first signs of an impending ob or taken suppressively. > I found Valtrex to make me tired and dizzy and give me a headache, but > no other side effects really. I didnt even have to use it during my > prednisone usage period, but maybe there are some that need it more. I > think for many its a personal preference. I think it's a personal preference too. Many people don't need it simply because the ob's are either mild or they are asymptomatic. But for some people, Valtrex can help prevent transmission to a newborn, so that's why I get upset when someone who is totally unqualified makes a statement that "even the worst cases don't need Valtrex". This is dangerous and foolish. > I like to control my herpes with diet and stress reduction and taking > lysine if extreme cases. I still get 1-2 outbreaks a month, but only a > few major ones a year. Most of the outbreaks are limited to itchy, > swollen red areas so I deal with. I think there is a lot of good in > holistic alternatives. You will never, ever hear me saying anything negative about diet modifications and stress reduction and exercise or anything like that. I don't have any problem with taking lysine either as long as it is sold by a reputable company who can guarantee purity and safety. I do have a problem with some guy going out to the woods and wandering around and grabbing leaves and roots and barks and God knows what else and slow cooking them in Jamaican rum in pots made out of clay he dug out of the ground "like his grandparents and probably yours did too". First, this is a blatant rip off targeting people in a support group setting who are hurting and oftentimes desperate. Second, what if people believe this guys ads that his potions cure herpes? Could you imagine people dabbing a little lotion on themselves and then going around acting as if they no longer have the virus because they were bulshitted into believing that? Third, this distracts people from the real treatment and comfort they deserve via medical or bona fide natural medicine practiced by DOCTORS. Finally, the stuff this guy is peddling has no guarantees of safety or purity or even what the f--- it is..got it? People using this have no guarantees that they won't have an allergic reaction or end up ill from using any of it. Do you see the points I'm making here? ~Eric > Finally, the stuff this guy is peddling has no guarantees of safety or > purity or even what the f--- it is..got it? People using this have no [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > ~Eric I have the same problem with today's medicines. Allergic reactions and getting awfully sick from them. We understand where you are coming from, Eric. Believe me, we understand. And your points are very valid. But, the medicines we have today have only been around for a short time. Yet people have been medicating themselves for ailments far longer than the medicines we know today have been around. There's a lot to be said about natural treatment (note, I did not say cures). Bark and leaves, etc, they have a valid place in medicine and have actually been the basis for many of the medicines we know and love/hate today. Remember, those drugs that are peddled to us by doctors were created from, in many cases, plants. Heck, take thyroid medicine for instance. Waaaaaaaaaay back, people treated their thyroid problems with dessicated animal thyroid (granted, not a plant). And nowadays, that animal thyroid is a much better medicine than the synthetics made in a lab--for many people. Many don't need it, but it sure is great for those that need a more natural product. I did a quick google search and came up with these websites: http://www.medicinehunter.com/plant_medicine.htm http://www.rainforesteducation.com/medicines/PlantMedicines/rfmedicines.htm http://www.nps.gov/plants/medicinal/plants.htm As to the rum, flower essences have proven to be very effective for both humans and animals as treatments for different problems. Those essences are mixed in with brandy. I do not know why alcohol is used as the delivery mechanism but it seems to work for many. And, while I'm on my soap box about alternatives, I personally know quite a few infertile women who had been told by doctors they could not have children. After trying to have children for a long time, two became pregnant after using maca root and three became pregnant after using acupuncture. One of the women who used the maca was very, very surprised, actually. As she had been told she could not become pregnant. So, there is a lot on this planet that we, and you, don't know. As far as I'm concerned, natural is always best as that is why our symbiotic relationship with our planet was developed. Humans ARE a part of nature. Nature will take care of us when we let it. ar Yes, I don't know that we'll ever be able to get away from allergies and side effects, but my point is that with FDA approved drugs at least extensive testing is done to try to determine if any allergies/side effects result. > I have the same problem with today's medicines. Allergic reactions and > getting awfully sick from them. Well I don't know that the treatmenst of today are all brand new. A lot of them are, but countless other ones like coumadin, digitalis, vinblastine, heck even aspirin to name a few are from plants, so I will never disagree with you that taking drugs from mother nature is ever a bad thing. My entire point is that these drugs are isolated from the plants, purified, and tested extensively before they are allowed to enter the market, and then they are prescribed by docs who can watch and monitor for side effects, effectiveness, etc. > But, the medicines we have today have only been around for a short time. > Yet people have been medicating themselves for ailments far longer than the [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > made in a lab--for many people. Many don't need it, but it sure is great > for those that need a more natural product. Ok, here's where I'll show you why this is problematic. What flower essences? What grade of rum or whatever medium should be used? How many leaves/pieces of bark/roots should be added and what concentration should be used? Should it be taken orally or topically once a day, 10 times a day, or once every morning after the first blue moon of the year just after the cock crows? Do you see where I am going with this? There are no standards for purity, safety, etc. If it works for anyone at all, odds are it's the placebo effect. > As to the rum, flower essences have proven to be very effective for both > humans and animals as treatments for different problems. Those essences are > mixed in with brandy. I do not know why alcohol is used as the delivery > mechanism but it seems to work for many. Ok, I don't know why these women couldn't get pregnant or any of the background information there or underlying causes but I support acupuncture and chiropractors too if they can help improve a patient's symptoms. Where did the maca come from and how do they know their pregnancy wasn't due to something else? > And, while I'm on my soap box about alternatives, I personally know quite a > few infertile women who had been told by doctors they could not have > children. After trying to have children for a long time, two became > pregnant after using maca root and three became pregnant after using > acupuncture. One of the women who used the maca was very, very surprised, > actually. As she had been told she could not become pregnant. Nature will kill us when we let it too. Here's proof positive of how dangerous 100% natural herbs can be. Herbs of the species Aristolochia and Asarum which contain aristolochic acid are still available on the internet from unscrupulous herbalists (not unlike natropractica) who are offering it to people who want to lose weight (yet another fear these sleazebags exploit). This acid is both carcinogenic and causes kidney failure. So I guess I just have once question really..do you trust some guy going out in the middle of the woods with a bottle of rum and clay pots? ~Eric > So, there is a lot on this planet that we, and you, don't know. As far as > I'm concerned, natural is always best as that is why our symbiotic > relationship with our planet was developed. Humans ARE a part of nature. > Nature will take care of us when we let it. > > ar > So I guess I just have once question really..do you trust some guy > going out in the middle of the woods with a bottle of rum and clay > pots? > > ~Eric As much as I trust any of the doctors who have nearly killed me. ar Grant, What problem did you have in the past with the doctors? Was it a side effect, an allergy, or what? I ask because it is so unfortunate to see you acting so cynical towards health care professionals and so welcoming towards unlicensed and unregulated self-appointed herbalists. ~Eric > As much as I trust any of the doctors who have nearly killed me. > > ar Eric, I'm not welcoming towards unlicensed and unregulated self-appointed herbalists. I just keep an open mind because I know that herbs have helped many. Me, included. I still research all of it just the same way I research any prescribed medicine I'm given. Prescribed medicines have caused severe allergic reactions in me. As well as creating severe allergies to most foods and pretty much everything outdoors. A drug did that. Doctors have misdiagnosed me so many times that I can no longer get health insurance. And two specialists refused to help me because they allowed their egos to get in the way. If it hadn't been for an acupuncturist and my chiropractor, I would have probably died. ar > Grant, > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >> >> ar Grant, Well I'm glad to hear you also condemn these fraudulent and dangerous herbalists. By all means I agree with keeping an open mind. And I am in no way saying that some plants or herbs aren't beneficial. I'm glad to hear that you research it all the same way you would a normal medicine, but when you're buying stuff from dishonest people like Natro-quack-tica you don't even know what exactly to research because God only knows what he is putting in his little vials and shipping out as a "cure for herpes". I'm sorry to hear about your allergies and run-ins with what sound to be unhelpful doctors, but don't condemn the entire health care community because of a few bad apples. I don't condemn the natural medicine community one bit, I just condemn unregulated, dangerous, and shady chalatans like Natro-quack-tica. ~Eric > Eric, > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > ar Hi Eric > I think it's a personal preference too. Many people don't need it > simply because the ob's are either mild or they are asymptomatic. But > for some people, Valtrex can help prevent transmission to a newborn, so > that's why I get upset when someone who is totally unqualified makes a > statement that "even the worst cases don't need Valtrex". This is > dangerous and foolish. Yes i agree in cases with a newborn on the way, Valtrex is important for the mother to take, or in cases where people are really bad from their OB's. > I don't have any problem with taking lysine either as long as it is > sold by a reputable company who can guarantee purity and safety. Try Vitaminworld, thats where I get all my vitamins. > Second, what if people believe this guys ads that his potions cure > herpes? Could you imagine people dabbing a little lotion on themselves > and then going around acting as if they no longer have the virus > because they were bulshitted into believing that? Well yes there are limits to what I would believe in. Mostly things like tea tree oil, lavender and melissa oil are for comfort reasons. > Third, this distracts people from the real treatment and comfort they > deserve via medical or bona fide natural medicine practiced by DOCTORS. The only thing is that most doctors are insensitive to herpes and pass it off as nothing to worry about and sometimes just tell you not to worry about it, especially if they don't know that much about it themselves. I'd say I probably know more about herpes than the average doctor. > Finally, the stuff this guy is peddling has no guarantees of safety or > purity or even what the f--- it is..got it? People using this have no > guarantees that they won't have an allergic reaction or end up ill from > using any of it. Yes I understand, but I think people should really learn about herpes and then learn about OTC, prescription and holistic meds to really know their options. Back in the day, the word herpes only meant a disease that was annoying and life long, but i had no idea what it was even after contracting it for a long time. Al Well you should join in in condemning natropractica's comment that "even with the worst cases valtrex isn't needed". > Yes i agree in cases with a newborn on the way, Valtrex is important > for the mother to take, or in cases where people are really bad from > their OB's. You know something, I don't either. I DO have a problem with some guy picking herbs and telling people that his lotions and potions are a cure and that valtrex isn't needed no matter how bad. I already told you the potential consequences if people believe this guy. > > I don't have any problem with taking lysine either as long as it is > > sold by a reputable company who can guarantee purity and safety. I do get vitamins from there. > Try Vitaminworld, thats where I get all my vitamins. Ok, but what about the desperate people who are hurting and so depressed that they are willing to try anything for a promised cure? What about those with the primary ob who are so scared and confused? No, I think doctors just marginalize herpes and try to downplay it when people come in crying and thinking it's the ruin of their lives. I have encountered doctors who seem to be insensitive..at my last appointment my doc told me "to put it out of my mind, this is the virus that causes coldsores". People who have hsv-1 are in the majority and they just say "use protection", so I know where you're coming from. > The only thing is that most doctors are insensitive to herpes and pass > it off as nothing to worry about and sometimes just tell you not to > worry about it, especially if they don't know that much about it > themselves. I'd say I probably know more about herpes than the average > doctor. I agree with you here, I think people should know their options and be wary of "snake oil salesmen" like natro who if ripping them off. ~Eric > Yes I understand, but I think people should really learn about herpes > and then learn about OTC, prescription and holistic meds to really know [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Al |
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