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Herpes and the DMSO deception

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natropractica - 14 Jul 2006 16:38 GMT
Herpes and the DMSO Deception

DMSO is a Dangerous, ineffective, un-natural and illegal therapy for
the treatment of herpes.

I wrote an essay over a year ago called "The Natural Health Products
Hustle: False Prophets chasing Profits", to describe my dismay at
seeing all the unethical businesses jumping into the new gold rush
which is the "natural health products" market. You can read that
essay here-
http://www.natropractica.com/Natural%20Health%20Prducts%20Hustle.htm

What mostly happens with these companies is that they over-hype the
effectiveness of their products which give cynics an excuse to
criticize vitamins and supplements, but rarely are the products
dangerous.

DMSO (di-methyl-sulfoxide) is an exception. DMSO is not an herbal
medicine, vitamin or a supplement. It is a man-made solvent derived
from the pulp and paer industry. Its main use is as an industrial
solvent to clean heavy equipment. DMSO does have some medicinal uses,
primarily for the treatment of interstitial cystitis, and to help race
horses cope with the strain on their unnatural bodies.

Only pharmaceutical grade DMSO (USP) which is 99.9 pure is safe for use
with humans, and it is only legal to sell or buy it with a prescription
and it is only approved for human use by the FDA for use in the
treatment of interstitial cystitis (an inflammation of the bladder).

Greedy companies unconcerned about the danger of DMSO get around this
law by selling industrial and veternarian grade DMSO which is only 99%
pure on the internet by pretending that they are selling it as a
solvent for industrial use. No legitimate company or healthcare
professional is involved in the promotion of DMSO as a treatment for
herpes only the convicted felon Kevin Trudeau and another dubious
author with a book fancifully entitled  "Never and Outbreak".

You may think that 99% pure DMSO sounds pretty pure, but actually it
isn't. DMSO is a great sub-dermal delivery system. It penetrates
through your skin, through your cell membranes and is one of the few
substances that penetrates your blood-brain barrier which protects your
brain. 1% impurity makes any non-pharmaceutical grade DMSO too
dangerous for human use. DMSO will also carry anything on the surface
of your skin right into your body with it- bacteria, viruses, and
toxins. DMSO also can burn and cause severe irritation to your skin.

DMSO has never been shown to be an effective therapy for the treatment
of herpes either in peer-reviewed clinical studies or in clinical
practice by those treating herpes. In my 16 years of treating herpes I
have never met or heard of any herpes treatment specialist advocating
the use of either DMSO or DMSO and hydrogen-peroxide therapy.

It's bad enough to promote ineffective treatments to the general
public but I consider it a crime to promote the use of unsafe therapies
just for the sake of taking advantage of the huge population of herpes
sufferers.

But some of the blame has to be placed on the shoulders of those who
are buying DMSO for herpes treatment. Herpes is a lifelong viral
infection and there are no-magical quick fixes for herpes. Those who
either in desperation or ignorance look for gimmick treatments on the
internet are putting themselves in a bad situation. If you need help
with your herpes treatment plan turn to a professional instead of a
anonymous internet company.

Herpes can only be managed over the long-term by either drug therapy or
a holistic protocol involving dietary, exercise and lifestyle changes,
and anchored with real-herbal medicine. Treating herpes naturally
isn't complicated at all but requires patience and effort on your
part.

These are some of my thoughts on herpes and the DMSO deception. Below
is some additional reference material on the dangers of DMSO.

Christopher Scipio
Homeopath/Herbalist
Holistic Viral Specialist
http://www.natropractica.com
http://www.herpesbook.com
http:://herpesnation.blogspot.com

"The major thing (outside of the fact that it is an *extremely*
powerful solvent... which can carry any solute directly into the
bloodstream) is that on exposure to air it forms a very high and toxic
level of peroxides.
DMSO frequently causes a garlic-like body odor and taste in the mouth.
Other reported side effects include stomach upset, sensitivity to
light, visual disturbances, and headache. Skin irritation can develop
at the site where DMSO is applied topically. Only highly purified,
properly diluted DMSO should be used and the skin site as well as the
applying hand should be thoroughly cleaned before application, because
the solvent properties of DMSO allow contaminants to be absorbed
through the skin and transported into the bloodstream. Improperly
diluted DMSO can also burn the skin. Severe consequences could result
if the impure industrial or veterinary grades of DMSO are used on
humans.
Dr. James R. Crook, professor of medicine at the University of Alaska
and a specialist in human diseases, expresses the fear that users of
DMSO may be unaware of how fast the solvent and materials dissolved in
it can penetrate the skin and other parts of the body. Because of the
fast action, a substance which by itself might have limited or no
effect could cause serious damage or death if accidentally or
intentionally applied to the body in a DMSO solution."

http://dogbert.gi.alaska.edu/ScienceForum/ASF4/442.html

"PRECAUTIONS
DMSO is neither a nutritional supplement nor an over-the-counter
product; its use for the treatment of interstitial cystitis-performed
by interstitial instillation-requires a physician with expertise in
this procedure. Bladder instillation may be harmful in patients with
urinary-tract malignancy. Those who receive long-term treatment with
intravesical DMSO should have liver and renal function tests as well as
ophthalmologic evaluation performed every six months during treatment.
DMSO has been associated with lens changes in animals.
Pregnant women and nursing mothers should avoid using DMSO.
DMSO used as an industrial solvent is not medical grade.
ADVERSE REACTIONS
Adverse reactions reported in those using DMSO for treatment of
interstitial cystitis include garlic-like taste, transient chemical
cystitis, bladder spasm, discomfort, allergic reactions and
anaphylactoid reactions. Adverse reactions for topical use include
garlic-like taste, local dermatitis, nausea, vomiting, headache,
burning eyes and sedation. Concomitant use of DMSO and sulindac may
cause peripheral neuropathy."

http://www.pdrhealth.com/drug_info/nmdrugprofiles/nutsupdrugs/dim_0098.shtml

"DIMETHYLSULFOXIDE (DMSO):

DMSO is a by-product of the paper industry and is able to carry some
drugs rapidly through the skin and other tissues. There are no FDA
approved uses for DMSO in food-producing animals. Approvals do exist
for uses in horses and dogs. Industrial grade DMSO is widely available
for various non-medical uses such as paint remover and other solvent
uses. DMSO is often found stored on dairy farms or mixed with other
drugs intended for use in dairy animals. Such use may lead to an
increased chance of drug residues, off odor and off flavor milk.

FDA considers the use of DMSO for any veterinary purposes other than
approved uses in dogs and horses to be illegal. DMSO is an unapproved
new animal drug which is unsafe to use in food-producing animals.

The storage or use of DMSO is a violation of itme 16 r."

http://www.justsaywhoa.org/DrugReport.asp

"Dimethyl sulfoxide is a by-product of wood pulping and is frequently
used as solvent in a number of chemical reactions. In particular DMSO
proved to be an excellent reaction solvent for SN2 alkylations: it is
possible to alkylate indoles with very high yields using potassium
hydroxide as the base and a similar reaction also occurs with phenols.
DMSO can be reacted with methyl iodide to form a sulfoxonium ion which
can be reacted with sodium hydride to form a sulfur ylide. The methyl
hydrogens of DMSO are somewhat acidic in character (pKa=35) due to the
stabilization of the resultant anions by the sulfoxide group.
It is important to use caution in handling dimethyl sulfoxide, due to
its strong solvent power and the ease with which it penetrates the
skin. It is especially important to avoid contact with the mucous
membranes.
In certain conditions, dimethly sulfoxide can produce an explosive
reaction when exposed to acid chlorides."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimethyl_sulfoxide
M2slo2cht@nospam.invalid - 14 Jul 2006 21:01 GMT
>DMSO is a Dangerous, ineffective, un-natural and illegal therapy for
>the treatment of herpes.

.... agreed.... but you use the terms "therapy" and treatment"
loosely.  The keyword here is "dangerous".  And for no reason.

M2
Yoshi2me - 15 Jul 2006 15:10 GMT
http://www.yoshi2me.com/comments/dmso.html

Angela : )

>>DMSO is a Dangerous, ineffective, un-natural and illegal therapy for
>>the treatment of herpes.
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>
> M2
Al - 15 Jul 2006 16:54 GMT
> >>DMSO is a Dangerous, ineffective, un-natural and illegal therapy for
> >>the treatment of herpes.

According to what I have learned online and through health materials,
there is only one proven medicine to lessen herpes and this is
Acyclovir or its derivatives like famvir and valtrex. If I were going
to use an alternative it would be diet, rest and stress reduction,
maybe Lysine (which I am using now), and topical ointments such as FDA
approved medications. Something like DMSO is too new for me, and not
properly tested in my book. I've seen that website for that product
before, but to me it looks like a scam. I really don't think its
illegal though, otherwise it wouldnt be available online so easily. I
would steere clear of it though.

Al
natropractica - 15 Jul 2006 17:17 GMT
You are missing out on alot of information if you do a quick search on
pub med or any other libarary of clinbical studies you find dozens if
not hundreds of studies on ehrbs that have been shown to be effective
for herpes such as prunella vulgaris, melissa officinalis, olive leaf,
carrageenan, dumontia contorta, etc etc.

In case I wasnt abundantly clear that it is illegal for any one to sell
you DMSO on the internet. DMSO is a controlled substance with is only
legal for sale for human use with a prescription from your doctor and
only for the treatment of interstitial cystitis.

christopher scipio
homeopath/herbalist
holistic viral specialist
http://www.natropractica.com
http://www.herpesbook.com
> > >>DMSO is a Dangerous, ineffective, un-natural and illegal therapy for
> > >>the treatment of herpes.
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>
> Al
Eric - 16 Jul 2006 01:56 GMT
I'm tired of hearing about DMSO and other herbs that people like
yourself seem all to eager to sell. There is no FDA approval of these
herbs, like 0% proven efficacy, and a very real risk of injury because
there are no standards for dosages and purity or even a great deal of
clinical testing.  I will be happy to forward a prestigious journal
article demonstrating the inefficacious nature of these supplements.

The only accepted and approved treatment for HSV is antiviral drugs
like acyclovir and its derivatives. These drugs have been subject to
highly extensive testing for both efficacy and safety and have proven
to be both highly effective in most people as well as rather safe.

So I think it should be abundantly clear that nobody should take any
type of herbal supplements which claim to be a treatment, let alone the
cure for, HSV or any other disorder without first consulting their
physician and their better judgment. It's simply repugnant for "snake
oil salesmen" to attempt to sell substances of dubious nature to people
which not only hold little if any value in terms of treatment, but also
can pose serious health risks to these unsuspecting people.

~Eric

> You are missing out on alot of information if you do a quick search on
> pub med or any other libarary of clinbical studies you find dozens if
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> legal for sale for human use with a prescription from your doctor and
> only for the treatment of interstitial cystitis.
Al - 16 Jul 2006 04:27 GMT
> I'm tired of hearing about DMSO and other herbs that people like
> yourself seem all to eager to sell.

Believe me, I am leary about using certain vitamins let alone chemicals
like DMSO! I would never use that stuff now that I am more knowledgable
about it.

> The only accepted and approved treatment for HSV is antiviral drugs
> like acyclovir and its derivatives. These drugs have been subject to
> highly extensive testing for both efficacy and safety and have proven
> to be both highly effective in most people as well as rather safe.

The only time I used herbal remedies was when that woman that my ex
knew gave me a melissa oil conncoction and I tested a small amount, but
since it was less effective than tea tree oil I didnt use it again. Tea
Tree oil is okay, but nothing more than relieving itching and burning
etc. I wouldnt take any herbs for herpes personally. The only reason I
have taken lysine is because its the counter amino acid of arginine
which propagates herpes virus. Also my mother had a shingles problem a
while back and she was advised by her doctor to use lysine.

Al
Eric - 16 Jul 2006 06:52 GMT
Al,

My post was not directed at you. You don't sound like the "snake oil
salesman" here to me..LOL

Take care,

~Eric
Al - 17 Jul 2006 23:49 GMT
> Al,
>
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>
> ~Eric

I know, i didnt think you were trying to yell at me. :)

Al
M2slo2cht@nospam.invalid - 15 Jul 2006 20:30 GMT
>DMSO is too new for me, and not
>properly tested in my book.

It's been around a long time. And it *has* been properly tested and
proven beyond all doubt to be dangerous. It's a carrier which is
easily absorbed through the skin and into the blood stream and it will
carry anything that happens to be on your skin right along with it.
Any sort of contaminants, dirt, sweat, poisons, you name it. If your
hands and skin aren't absolutely 100% perfectly clean and
decontaminated, DMSO will carry whatever's on the surface right on in.
Tested and proven.

>I've seen that website for that product
>before, but to me it looks like a scam.

It's worse than just a scam.  It's a public hazard.

M2
Al - 15 Jul 2006 22:18 GMT
> >I've seen that website for that product
> >before, but to me it looks like a scam.
>
> It's worse than just a scam.  It's a public hazard.

Well unfortunatly I wasnt aware that is was THAT dangerous, as you
pointed out. I saw it online on the site "Never and Outbreak" and at
one time I had thoughts about buying it, but knowing that it was a
little pricey, I didnt buy it. One thought I have is since it is such a
public hazard and supposedly illegal and only supposed to be supplied
via a prescription, how come you can "legally" buy it online on that
site?

Oh also, I am aware that there are other herbs such as melissa oil and
lemon oil and other things like tea tree oil for treating herpes. I
have tried Tea Tree and to me it was no better than using Listerine on
the lesions and had pretty much the same effect for alot less money. I
also tried a blend of Melissa Oil, Lavender and Lemon oil and maybe
some tea tree oil, which was "thrown together" by this woman that my ex
girlfriend knew. I think the woman also had herpes and thats why she
conncotted this. Anyway it really didn't do anything for me, although
she swore by it.

Lysine seems to help control herpes activity, and the only time I use
it is when I am having a really bad problem like now. When I am getting
my routine outbreaks I just deal with it.

Al
M2slo2cht@nospam.invalid - 15 Jul 2006 23:52 GMT
>how come you can "legally" buy it online on that
>site?

I have no idea. In fact, I personally don't know if it's illegal or
not. Lots of hazardous materials aren't. Advertising it to the
uninformed as a harmless treatment fit for human consumption SHOULD be
illegal though. Catching somebody at it on the Internet and stopping
them is a different story though.

>Oh also, I am aware that there are other herbs such as melissa oil and
>lemon oil and other things like tea tree oil for treating herpes.

I wouldn't count much on that stuff being effective except maybe
soothing and feeling good. Although even placebo effect is proven to
work for certain people with particular personality types. At least
they're not dangerous like DMSO so, to each his own.

M2
Yoshi2me - 16 Jul 2006 15:38 GMT
> I really don't think its
> illegal though, otherwise it wouldnt be available online so easily. I
> would steere clear of it though.
>
> Al

Illegal activity takes place all over the world online, offline, in your
town, across the country, and across the ocean. The internet is not exactly
a "safe" place and as with anything else the buyer should always beware.
Same thing goes for stuff that is sold in the stores and on television. Just
because something is endorsed by celebs doesn't mean that it's ok and what
is good for one person may not be good for you. Always do your own research
as you are reading intently to what others write on the internet.

Angela :)

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natropractica - 17 Jul 2006 18:44 GMT
One last time, anyone selling dmso on the internet for the purposes of
treating herpes or nay other human health condition is breaking the
laws of the united states and canada and many other ocuntries.
> > I really don't think its
> > illegal though, otherwise it wouldnt be available online so easily. I
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