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Herpes and the DMSO deception
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natropractica - 14 Jul 2006 16:38 GMT Herpes and the DMSO Deception
DMSO is a Dangerous, ineffective, un-natural and illegal therapy for the treatment of herpes.
I wrote an essay over a year ago called "The Natural Health Products Hustle: False Prophets chasing Profits", to describe my dismay at seeing all the unethical businesses jumping into the new gold rush which is the "natural health products" market. You can read that essay here- http://www.natropractica.com/Natural%20Health%20Prducts%20Hustle.htm
What mostly happens with these companies is that they over-hype the effectiveness of their products which give cynics an excuse to criticize vitamins and supplements, but rarely are the products dangerous.
DMSO (di-methyl-sulfoxide) is an exception. DMSO is not an herbal medicine, vitamin or a supplement. It is a man-made solvent derived from the pulp and paer industry. Its main use is as an industrial solvent to clean heavy equipment. DMSO does have some medicinal uses, primarily for the treatment of interstitial cystitis, and to help race horses cope with the strain on their unnatural bodies.
Only pharmaceutical grade DMSO (USP) which is 99.9 pure is safe for use with humans, and it is only legal to sell or buy it with a prescription and it is only approved for human use by the FDA for use in the treatment of interstitial cystitis (an inflammation of the bladder).
Greedy companies unconcerned about the danger of DMSO get around this law by selling industrial and veternarian grade DMSO which is only 99% pure on the internet by pretending that they are selling it as a solvent for industrial use. No legitimate company or healthcare professional is involved in the promotion of DMSO as a treatment for herpes only the convicted felon Kevin Trudeau and another dubious author with a book fancifully entitled "Never and Outbreak".
You may think that 99% pure DMSO sounds pretty pure, but actually it isn't. DMSO is a great sub-dermal delivery system. It penetrates through your skin, through your cell membranes and is one of the few substances that penetrates your blood-brain barrier which protects your brain. 1% impurity makes any non-pharmaceutical grade DMSO too dangerous for human use. DMSO will also carry anything on the surface of your skin right into your body with it- bacteria, viruses, and toxins. DMSO also can burn and cause severe irritation to your skin.
DMSO has never been shown to be an effective therapy for the treatment of herpes either in peer-reviewed clinical studies or in clinical practice by those treating herpes. In my 16 years of treating herpes I have never met or heard of any herpes treatment specialist advocating the use of either DMSO or DMSO and hydrogen-peroxide therapy.
It's bad enough to promote ineffective treatments to the general public but I consider it a crime to promote the use of unsafe therapies just for the sake of taking advantage of the huge population of herpes sufferers.
But some of the blame has to be placed on the shoulders of those who are buying DMSO for herpes treatment. Herpes is a lifelong viral infection and there are no-magical quick fixes for herpes. Those who either in desperation or ignorance look for gimmick treatments on the internet are putting themselves in a bad situation. If you need help with your herpes treatment plan turn to a professional instead of a anonymous internet company.
Herpes can only be managed over the long-term by either drug therapy or a holistic protocol involving dietary, exercise and lifestyle changes, and anchored with real-herbal medicine. Treating herpes naturally isn't complicated at all but requires patience and effort on your part.
These are some of my thoughts on herpes and the DMSO deception. Below is some additional reference material on the dangers of DMSO.
Christopher Scipio Homeopath/Herbalist Holistic Viral Specialist http://www.natropractica.com http://www.herpesbook.com http:://herpesnation.blogspot.com
"The major thing (outside of the fact that it is an *extremely* powerful solvent... which can carry any solute directly into the bloodstream) is that on exposure to air it forms a very high and toxic level of peroxides. DMSO frequently causes a garlic-like body odor and taste in the mouth. Other reported side effects include stomach upset, sensitivity to light, visual disturbances, and headache. Skin irritation can develop at the site where DMSO is applied topically. Only highly purified, properly diluted DMSO should be used and the skin site as well as the applying hand should be thoroughly cleaned before application, because the solvent properties of DMSO allow contaminants to be absorbed through the skin and transported into the bloodstream. Improperly diluted DMSO can also burn the skin. Severe consequences could result if the impure industrial or veterinary grades of DMSO are used on humans. Dr. James R. Crook, professor of medicine at the University of Alaska and a specialist in human diseases, expresses the fear that users of DMSO may be unaware of how fast the solvent and materials dissolved in it can penetrate the skin and other parts of the body. Because of the fast action, a substance which by itself might have limited or no effect could cause serious damage or death if accidentally or intentionally applied to the body in a DMSO solution."
http://dogbert.gi.alaska.edu/ScienceForum/ASF4/442.html
"PRECAUTIONS DMSO is neither a nutritional supplement nor an over-the-counter product; its use for the treatment of interstitial cystitis-performed by interstitial instillation-requires a physician with expertise in this procedure. Bladder instillation may be harmful in patients with urinary-tract malignancy. Those who receive long-term treatment with intravesical DMSO should have liver and renal function tests as well as ophthalmologic evaluation performed every six months during treatment. DMSO has been associated with lens changes in animals. Pregnant women and nursing mothers should avoid using DMSO. DMSO used as an industrial solvent is not medical grade. ADVERSE REACTIONS Adverse reactions reported in those using DMSO for treatment of interstitial cystitis include garlic-like taste, transient chemical cystitis, bladder spasm, discomfort, allergic reactions and anaphylactoid reactions. Adverse reactions for topical use include garlic-like taste, local dermatitis, nausea, vomiting, headache, burning eyes and sedation. Concomitant use of DMSO and sulindac may cause peripheral neuropathy."
http://www.pdrhealth.com/drug_info/nmdrugprofiles/nutsupdrugs/dim_0098.shtml
"DIMETHYLSULFOXIDE (DMSO):
DMSO is a by-product of the paper industry and is able to carry some drugs rapidly through the skin and other tissues. There are no FDA approved uses for DMSO in food-producing animals. Approvals do exist for uses in horses and dogs. Industrial grade DMSO is widely available for various non-medical uses such as paint remover and other solvent uses. DMSO is often found stored on dairy farms or mixed with other drugs intended for use in dairy animals. Such use may lead to an increased chance of drug residues, off odor and off flavor milk.
FDA considers the use of DMSO for any veterinary purposes other than approved uses in dogs and horses to be illegal. DMSO is an unapproved new animal drug which is unsafe to use in food-producing animals.
The storage or use of DMSO is a violation of itme 16 r."
http://www.justsaywhoa.org/DrugReport.asp
"Dimethyl sulfoxide is a by-product of wood pulping and is frequently used as solvent in a number of chemical reactions. In particular DMSO proved to be an excellent reaction solvent for SN2 alkylations: it is possible to alkylate indoles with very high yields using potassium hydroxide as the base and a similar reaction also occurs with phenols. DMSO can be reacted with methyl iodide to form a sulfoxonium ion which can be reacted with sodium hydride to form a sulfur ylide. The methyl hydrogens of DMSO are somewhat acidic in character (pKa=35) due to the stabilization of the resultant anions by the sulfoxide group. It is important to use caution in handling dimethyl sulfoxide, due to its strong solvent power and the ease with which it penetrates the skin. It is especially important to avoid contact with the mucous membranes. In certain conditions, dimethly sulfoxide can produce an explosive reaction when exposed to acid chlorides."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimethyl_sulfoxide
M2slo2cht@nospam.invalid - 14 Jul 2006 21:01 GMT >DMSO is a Dangerous, ineffective, un-natural and illegal therapy for >the treatment of herpes. .... agreed.... but you use the terms "therapy" and treatment" loosely. The keyword here is "dangerous". And for no reason.
M2
Yoshi2me - 15 Jul 2006 15:10 GMT http://www.yoshi2me.com/comments/dmso.html
Angela : )
>>DMSO is a Dangerous, ineffective, un-natural and illegal therapy for >>the treatment of herpes. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > M2 Al - 15 Jul 2006 16:54 GMT > >>DMSO is a Dangerous, ineffective, un-natural and illegal therapy for > >>the treatment of herpes. According to what I have learned online and through health materials, there is only one proven medicine to lessen herpes and this is Acyclovir or its derivatives like famvir and valtrex. If I were going to use an alternative it would be diet, rest and stress reduction, maybe Lysine (which I am using now), and topical ointments such as FDA approved medications. Something like DMSO is too new for me, and not properly tested in my book. I've seen that website for that product before, but to me it looks like a scam. I really don't think its illegal though, otherwise it wouldnt be available online so easily. I would steere clear of it though.
Al
natropractica - 15 Jul 2006 17:17 GMT You are missing out on alot of information if you do a quick search on pub med or any other libarary of clinbical studies you find dozens if not hundreds of studies on ehrbs that have been shown to be effective for herpes such as prunella vulgaris, melissa officinalis, olive leaf, carrageenan, dumontia contorta, etc etc.
In case I wasnt abundantly clear that it is illegal for any one to sell you DMSO on the internet. DMSO is a controlled substance with is only legal for sale for human use with a prescription from your doctor and only for the treatment of interstitial cystitis.
christopher scipio homeopath/herbalist holistic viral specialist http://www.natropractica.com http://www.herpesbook.com
> > >>DMSO is a Dangerous, ineffective, un-natural and illegal therapy for > > >>the treatment of herpes. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Al Eric - 16 Jul 2006 01:56 GMT I'm tired of hearing about DMSO and other herbs that people like yourself seem all to eager to sell. There is no FDA approval of these herbs, like 0% proven efficacy, and a very real risk of injury because there are no standards for dosages and purity or even a great deal of clinical testing. I will be happy to forward a prestigious journal article demonstrating the inefficacious nature of these supplements.
The only accepted and approved treatment for HSV is antiviral drugs like acyclovir and its derivatives. These drugs have been subject to highly extensive testing for both efficacy and safety and have proven to be both highly effective in most people as well as rather safe.
So I think it should be abundantly clear that nobody should take any type of herbal supplements which claim to be a treatment, let alone the cure for, HSV or any other disorder without first consulting their physician and their better judgment. It's simply repugnant for "snake oil salesmen" to attempt to sell substances of dubious nature to people which not only hold little if any value in terms of treatment, but also can pose serious health risks to these unsuspecting people.
~Eric
> You are missing out on alot of information if you do a quick search on > pub med or any other libarary of clinbical studies you find dozens if [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > legal for sale for human use with a prescription from your doctor and > only for the treatment of interstitial cystitis. Al - 16 Jul 2006 04:27 GMT > I'm tired of hearing about DMSO and other herbs that people like > yourself seem all to eager to sell. Believe me, I am leary about using certain vitamins let alone chemicals like DMSO! I would never use that stuff now that I am more knowledgable about it.
> The only accepted and approved treatment for HSV is antiviral drugs > like acyclovir and its derivatives. These drugs have been subject to > highly extensive testing for both efficacy and safety and have proven > to be both highly effective in most people as well as rather safe. The only time I used herbal remedies was when that woman that my ex knew gave me a melissa oil conncoction and I tested a small amount, but since it was less effective than tea tree oil I didnt use it again. Tea Tree oil is okay, but nothing more than relieving itching and burning etc. I wouldnt take any herbs for herpes personally. The only reason I have taken lysine is because its the counter amino acid of arginine which propagates herpes virus. Also my mother had a shingles problem a while back and she was advised by her doctor to use lysine.
Al
Eric - 16 Jul 2006 06:52 GMT Al,
My post was not directed at you. You don't sound like the "snake oil salesman" here to me..LOL
Take care,
~Eric
Al - 17 Jul 2006 23:49 GMT > Al, > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > ~Eric I know, i didnt think you were trying to yell at me. :)
Al
M2slo2cht@nospam.invalid - 15 Jul 2006 20:30 GMT >DMSO is too new for me, and not >properly tested in my book. It's been around a long time. And it *has* been properly tested and proven beyond all doubt to be dangerous. It's a carrier which is easily absorbed through the skin and into the blood stream and it will carry anything that happens to be on your skin right along with it. Any sort of contaminants, dirt, sweat, poisons, you name it. If your hands and skin aren't absolutely 100% perfectly clean and decontaminated, DMSO will carry whatever's on the surface right on in. Tested and proven.
>I've seen that website for that product >before, but to me it looks like a scam. It's worse than just a scam. It's a public hazard.
M2
Al - 15 Jul 2006 22:18 GMT > >I've seen that website for that product > >before, but to me it looks like a scam. > > It's worse than just a scam. It's a public hazard. Well unfortunatly I wasnt aware that is was THAT dangerous, as you pointed out. I saw it online on the site "Never and Outbreak" and at one time I had thoughts about buying it, but knowing that it was a little pricey, I didnt buy it. One thought I have is since it is such a public hazard and supposedly illegal and only supposed to be supplied via a prescription, how come you can "legally" buy it online on that site?
Oh also, I am aware that there are other herbs such as melissa oil and lemon oil and other things like tea tree oil for treating herpes. I have tried Tea Tree and to me it was no better than using Listerine on the lesions and had pretty much the same effect for alot less money. I also tried a blend of Melissa Oil, Lavender and Lemon oil and maybe some tea tree oil, which was "thrown together" by this woman that my ex girlfriend knew. I think the woman also had herpes and thats why she conncotted this. Anyway it really didn't do anything for me, although she swore by it.
Lysine seems to help control herpes activity, and the only time I use it is when I am having a really bad problem like now. When I am getting my routine outbreaks I just deal with it.
Al
M2slo2cht@nospam.invalid - 15 Jul 2006 23:52 GMT >how come you can "legally" buy it online on that >site? I have no idea. In fact, I personally don't know if it's illegal or not. Lots of hazardous materials aren't. Advertising it to the uninformed as a harmless treatment fit for human consumption SHOULD be illegal though. Catching somebody at it on the Internet and stopping them is a different story though.
>Oh also, I am aware that there are other herbs such as melissa oil and >lemon oil and other things like tea tree oil for treating herpes. I wouldn't count much on that stuff being effective except maybe soothing and feeling good. Although even placebo effect is proven to work for certain people with particular personality types. At least they're not dangerous like DMSO so, to each his own.
M2
Yoshi2me - 16 Jul 2006 15:38 GMT > I really don't think its > illegal though, otherwise it wouldnt be available online so easily. I > would steere clear of it though. > > Al Illegal activity takes place all over the world online, offline, in your town, across the country, and across the ocean. The internet is not exactly a "safe" place and as with anything else the buyer should always beware. Same thing goes for stuff that is sold in the stores and on television. Just because something is endorsed by celebs doesn't mean that it's ok and what is good for one person may not be good for you. Always do your own research as you are reading intently to what others write on the internet.
Angela :)
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natropractica - 17 Jul 2006 18:44 GMT One last time, anyone selling dmso on the internet for the purposes of treating herpes or nay other human health condition is breaking the laws of the united states and canada and many other ocuntries.
> > I really don't think its > > illegal though, otherwise it wouldnt be available online so easily. I [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > Herpes Blog > http://herpes-help.blogspot.com/
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