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WD - 01 Jun 2006 13:06 GMT
I'll make it brief. My wife of 27 years was cheating on me. Before I
realized that fact she got Genital Herpes from her boyfriend, which I
got from her. So I am dealing with a divorce and the disease. I am
also 50, scared to death, angry, hurt and extremely depressed. I have
had 5 outbreaks since October. She was diagnosed before me (failed to
tell me ) , I get sick as a dog from these. The Valtrex helps but it
is still a day of sickness. Flu like symptoms, nauseau,  dizzy , very
systemic.

Double whammy, the divorce of my best friend _ex best friend and a
disease....its a challenge. Does anyone know if my chances of going
after the tort, (herpes) stands a chance. I do have a lawyer and he
plans to use the tort in the divorce proceedings, as far as , she
should not be entitled to half of everything, due to the fact that I
have the disease. BTW I live in Fla.

Thanks   Wayne
grant - 01 Jun 2006 14:00 GMT
Hi Wayne,

Sorry for your troubles.

Here's the clincher...herpes thrives on stress and unhappiness.  The more
you get all caught up in what happened to you, the more your herpes is going
to affect you.  Herpes is, often times, a psychological disease.  Life
sucks?  So will your herpes.  The best advice in dealing with herpes is to
"get over it."  Being happy and well adjusted, really helps to make your
immune system function better which in turn, deals with the virus better.

First, can you actually prove you didn't have herpes prior to this?  That's
what makes court cases a little bit difficult.  Unless you've got a negative
herpes test to show...

Second, you know for a fact your wife was cheating on you, right?  Many
times, people make that assumptions when an std suddenly shows up.  I just
want to make sure you aren't one of them.

Thirdly, I'd be pissed too if my partner knew about the herpes and didn't
tell me.  I don't want you to think I'm downplaying your pain.  You have
every right to be upset.  But as mentioned above, you aren't doing yourself
any favors by being angry, hurt, and extremely depressed.  What about
seeking out some therapy or an antidepressent to help you get through this?
I tend to stay away from medications, but for some, it is a necessity for
awhile.

I'm not sure I understand what you are saying with "tort."

My personal opinion is that it sucks to have herpes.  But it isn't the end
of the world.  I would not use it as the main factor in what she gets out of
the divorce.  Instead, the fact there was infidelity is the bigger factor.
That is more of a determination as to how the belongings should be divided.
She basically decided the marriage was worth throwing away when she decided
to cheat.

As to the fact you got herpes out of the deal...well, we all got herpes from
someone.  Our stories are all varied and some are rather tragic.  Others are
just from stupidity.  But no matter what, we can't change the fact we have
it.  It's best to make peace with that and move on.

I'm also in Florida.  Could use some rain...it's freakin' hot.

ar

> I'll make it brief. My wife of 27 years was cheating on me. Before I
> realized that fact she got Genital Herpes from her boyfriend, which I
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>
> Thanks   Wayne
ejk235@gmail.com - 01 Jun 2006 18:51 GMT
Wayne,

 I know you wanna either beat over the head or sue the person that
gave it to you, but I would advise against at least the suing part ;-)
I don't know, maybe you're not like me, but I don't want anybody
knowing about my hsv-1, I don't even really want to tell partners
because I'm ashamed and embarrassed. I don't think you are going to
want to go through the embarrassment and stress of a trial and have the
very real possibility of not winning in the herpes suit. Yes, you can
legally sue her over giving you this, but actually doing it would be up
to you. Perhaps the best thing would be to just separate from her. And
please don't worry about not being able to find a partner..if you can
get past the depression and get educated on herpes and stay positive,
herpes won't stop you from doing anything.

Look at the positives--I'm just out of college and have type-1 so I
have the rest of my life with H, God willing, ahead of me.

~Eric

> Hi Wayne,
>
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> >
> > Thanks   Wayne
Tim Fitzmaurice - 02 Jun 2006 08:35 GMT
> I'm not sure I understand what you are saying with "tort."

IIRC Its a legal term - its the breach which establishes the right to
damages - well in English Law anyway, since English law was copied in a
large part by those who pushed the US to independance I would guess that
it probably means the same thing in US law.

Tim
--
When playing rugby, its not the winning that counts, but the taking apart
ICQ: 5178568
grant - 02 Jun 2006 12:12 GMT
Ah, thanks, Tim.  Now I understand.

ar

>> I'm not sure I understand what you are saying with "tort."
>
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> When playing rugby, its not the winning that counts, but the taking apart
> ICQ: 5178568
WD - 02 Jun 2006 12:39 GMT
A tort would be a seperate lawsuit for inflicting bodily harm. The
burden of proof would be on my side. She has had five affairs over
five yaers (all unknown to me till this past Oct.)  I have a witness
who would testify to that effect. If nothing else it shows reckless
abandon on her part. I believe it is worth going after , if nothing
else so she does not end up with a 50-50 split. I have a 30 year
pension at stake. Luckily my daughters are grown so there is no child
support.

>I'll make it brief. My wife of 27 years was cheating on me. Before I
>realized that fact she got Genital Herpes from her boyfriend, which I
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>
>Thanks   Wayne
Yoshi2me - 07 Jun 2006 15:34 GMT
> I'll make it brief. My wife of 27 years was cheating on me.

Sorry to hear about that.. believe me you are not alone when it comes to
"loved ones" being dishonest, with-holding the truth, and cheating etc. I
have heard it so many times and to top it all off.. the people that cheat or
are dishonest in their relationships are usually the ones that refuse to
talk about their std status.. not only does it suck but it's wrong..
especially if the individual is aware of their std status.

> Before I
> realized that fact she got Genital Herpes from her boyfriend, which I
> got from her. So I am dealing with a divorce and the disease.

I would imagine that you had no idea she was sleeping with you AND with her
boyfriend, right?

> I am
> also 50, scared to death, angry, hurt and extremely depressed. I have
> had 5 outbreaks since October. She was diagnosed before me (failed to
> tell me ) , I get sick as a dog from these. The Valtrex helps but it
> is still a day of sickness. Flu like symptoms, nauseau,  dizzy , very
> systemic.

I wonder why she neglected to tell you that she had been diagnosed with
herpes? What does she say about it? Have you confronted her?

> Double whammy, the divorce of my best friend _ex best friend and a
> disease....its a challenge. Does anyone know if my chances of going
> after the tort, (herpes) stands a chance. I do have a lawyer and he
> plans to use the tort in the divorce proceedings, as far as , she
> should not be entitled to half of everything, due to the fact that I
> have the disease. BTW I live in Fla.

I don't know about not being entitled to half of everything because of
herpes.. after all - the two of you were married for 27 long years. But it
would be worth noting if she was aware of her herpes and didn't tell you
that she had herpes. Also, I would be curious as to how you were diagnosed
with herpes?

Hope this helps Wayne,

Angela :)

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WD - 08 Jun 2006 13:13 GMT
>> I'll make it brief. My wife of 27 years was cheating on me.
>
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>I would imagine that you had no idea she was sleeping with you AND with her
>boyfriend, right?
No, never even knew she was cheating on me. Being a firefighter I am
on duty for 24 hours, plenty of time for her to have a second life.

>> I am
>> also 50, scared to death, angry, hurt and extremely depressed. I have
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>I wonder why she neglected to tell you that she had been diagnosed with
>herpes? What does she say about it? Have you confronted her?
She got sick in late August. She went to the doctor to get checked
out. When I asked her what he said she had, her reply was it was a
virus  ( in the sense of a flu virus, never mentioned STD) and it
would go away. Within a short period of time after that I got sick as
a dog and figured I got what she had. Her comments during my sickness
were, it will go away, give it a few days. Her ex-best friend (female)
finally broke down and told me that it was STD. The soon to be ex had
already told her she was diagnosed with genital herpes. The ex-best
friend felt sorry for me and thought as an ex-paramedic I would put 2
and 2 together. Well we just don't see genital herpes in the field.
When I confronted her for the first time (I had NOT been diagnosed
yet, was going on her friends info)  "doesn't it bother you that you
gave me a disease" ? Her reply (with a big grin ) was its not that big
of a deal, you take a pill.  (my wife of 27 years!!!!!)

>> Double whammy, the divorce of my best friend _ex best friend and a
>> disease....its a challenge. Does anyone know if my chances of going
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>that she had herpes. Also, I would be curious as to how you were diagnosed
>with herpes?
Went in Oct, they took blood and confirmed it, luckily no aids.

>Hope this helps Wayne,
>
>Angela :)
Yoshi2me - 08 Jun 2006 18:14 GMT
Now you know why it was best for you and your wife of 27 years not to be
together any longer... ya know?

Angela :(

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>>> I'll make it brief. My wife of 27 years was cheating on me.
>>
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>>
>>Angela :)
WD - 08 Jun 2006 20:48 GMT
>Now you know why it was best for you and your wife of 27 years not to be
>together any longer... ya know?
>
>Angela :(

So much pain, so much depression.
There are people walking this green earth because i've saved their
lives. This is my payback???
Yoshi2me - 08 Jun 2006 23:15 GMT
WD ~

Everybody goes through times in their life when they feel as though they
don't deserve what's been dealt to them... it's  how you react and choose to
move on with your life that counts. Don't get caught up into feeling sorry
for yourself for too long. It's ok to be sad and to feel bad about what's
happened but if you dwell in it... you will not have it easy being happy for
very long and you'll have a difficult time seeing your way out of this mess.

If there are people walking this green earth because you have saved their
life I sure hope you didn't do it because you thought you were going to get
something in return. If you are doing it only to somehow get something back
then you are doing it for the wrong reasons and need to find a different
profession.

Just my opinion,

Angela

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>>Now you know why it was best for you and your wife of 27 years not to be
>>together any longer... ya know?
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> There are people walking this green earth because i've saved their
> lives. This is my payback???
ejk235@gmail.com - 09 Jun 2006 00:41 GMT
WD,

 Nobody deserves herpes. It is as simple as that. But I agree with
Angela--don't get caught up in hating the person who gave you this and
try to force yourself to move on.
I know it sounds totally ridiculous right now, but try to focus on the
things that you still have in your life. You say you have saved
people's lives so I presume you are a physician or other health
professional. I think Angela is confused on the "getting something back
part"--you do indeed get something which is inestimable back. You get
the knowledge of helping and inexpressible gratitude of the lives you
have touched and the difference that you have made--and as far as I'm
concerned that's getting back something that money can never come close
to buying. I think deep down you realize that and that you are in the
right profession, and you can see the good work you have done.

 For lack of better words, I can't say it emphatically enough that
this won't do much long-term damage to your life. Try to stay positive,
and keep exercising (it fights the depression), and go on living your
life on your own terms. You are not alone by any means, and we are here
to support you. Keep your chin up!

~Eric

> WD ~
>
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> > There are people walking this green earth because i've saved their
> > lives. This is my payback???
Yoshi2me - 09 Jun 2006 01:28 GMT
That's NOT what I was referring to Eric...

Angela

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> I think Angela is confused on the "getting something back
> part"--you do indeed get something which is inestimable back. You get
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> to buying. I think deep down you realize that and that you are in the
> right profession, and you can see the good work you have done.
grant - 09 Jun 2006 01:30 GMT
Eric,

That's an excellent post.  Thank you.

ar

> WD,
>
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>> > There are people walking this green earth because i've saved their
>> > lives. This is my payback???
WD - 09 Jun 2006 11:41 GMT
I believe that what you give out comes back . Give out good and good
returns. Same as what goes around comes around. Thats what Imeant by I
did not believe something like this would ever happen to me. The
herpes is one issue, and at the same time I have to deal with the
dissolution of my marriage. It is quite a burden. I thank you all for
your kind comments. Got to go to work, gone for 24.
Thanks  Wayne

>Eric,
>
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>>> > There are people walking this green earth because i've saved their
>>> > lives. This is my payback???
grant - 09 Jun 2006 12:22 GMT
Hi Wayne,

You have an extremely important job.  And a difficult one to do when you are
having an awful outbreak.  I wish you luck in getting those under control
and being pain free.  Remember, ibuprofin will help a lot as well.

Well, the goes around comes around theory is about karma.  But there's a
trick.  The trick is to do good for good's sake and not your own.  Giving
love and compassion to people is one thing.  But being able to be loving and
compassionate to people you don't personally like is what you must aim for.
This is starting to sound like a lecture and it isn't supposed to; so I
apologize for that.

ar

>I believe that what you give out comes back . Give out good and good
> returns. Same as what goes around comes around. Thats what Imeant by I
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>>>> > There are people walking this green earth because i've saved their
>>>> > lives. This is my payback???
 
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