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Medical Forum / Diseases and Disorders / Herpes / February 200612 questions
Hi everyone, Just coming through my first attack. This little gift wasn't what I was expecting from a romantic trist with ex-girlfriend in Paris but c'est la vie, right? So as a new member of this exclusive and secret group, I have some questions: 1) I had about 6-8 "pimples" on my stuff. Is that a light, medium or bad out-break. 2) as I said, it is just about cleared up but then one more seems to have popped up. From what I read that doesn't make sense. Could it be a second OB before the first is finished. Anyone ever experienced something like that? 3) I'm curious about the references to oranges and assorted nuts as triggers for an OB. Also, what about cheese, yogurt? Any validity to the idea that avoiding these will help avoid OB or would you say it is all person to person? What are some other triggers people have experienced. Is there a list somewhere? 4) l-Lysine? Argenine? What's the story there? Any other dietary/supplement advice? 5) Perl, appreciate your scientific papers but as lay person, I have no idea what you are talking about... Should i be bathing in Wheat-germ? Or should I be eating it? Smoking it? Wearing it? 6) anyone have an idea of an expected release date of Herpevac? 7) anyone on valtrex, practicing safe sex and still transmitted the virus to there partner? If so, can I have some details? Was it after years, did you get a little lazy with precautions? I've seen the literature that says out of 750 couples, 2% in the same situation managed to do so over the course of 8 months. That is from the Valtrex site. 8) Is there any value in applying a topical cleanser, rubbing alcohol, to my pelvic region before sex (while adhereing to all other safety measure?) 9) Any reasons not to go on suppressive therapy if I can get it through insurance and don't take any other medicines? 10) Valtrex and alcohol? harmful to the liver? 11) Cold sore creams good for the undercarriage as well? 12) would someone be contagious after exposure to the virus but before the first outbreak/symptoms. If anyone can shed some light on these questions, I would appreciate it. What a slap inthe face to get diagnosed with this. Really changes your perspective on the world. I think of the poor people who've been diagnosed with something much worse just because they relations with the "wrong" person. Yikes! Its really nice to know there is a group like this so to all of you who regularly contribute, Thank you!!! Mike > 1) I had about 6-8 "pimples" on my stuff. Is that a light, medium or > bad out-break. It's hard to tell really since outbreaks vary from person to person. > 2) as I said, it is just about cleared up but then one more seems to > have popped up. From what I read that doesn't make sense. Could it be > a second OB before the first is finished. Anyone ever experienced > something like that? Sometimes outbreaks can come on back to back.. everybody is different. > 3) I'm curious about the references to oranges and assorted nuts as > triggers for an OB. Also, what about cheese, yogurt? Any validity to > the idea that avoiding these will help avoid OB or would you say it is > all person to person? What are some other triggers people have > experienced. Is there a list somewhere? Everybody has different triggers. I know that stress can sometimes be a trigger for me. As for what foods to eat or avoid.. it's all relative. I eat whatever I want and it doesn't pose a problem for me at all. > 4) l-Lysine? Argenine? What's the story there? Any other > dietary/supplement advice? There isn't any clinical proof that any of this does anything for the herpes virus.. so don't be dissapointed if you try it and it doesn't work for you.. because it didn't work for me. All you can do is give it a try.. you certainly have nothing to lose in that regard. :: skipping question #5 :: > 6) anyone have an idea of an expected release date of Herpevac? What do you mean? > 7) anyone on valtrex, practicing safe sex and still transmitted the > virus to there partner? If so, can I have some details? Was it after > years, did you get a little lazy with precautions? I've seen the > literature that says out of 750 couples, 2% in the same situation > managed to do so over the course of 8 months. That is from the Valtrex > site. As far as I know I did not transmit herpes to my husband while I was on suppressive therapy. > 8) Is there any value in applying a topical cleanser, rubbing alcohol, > to my pelvic region before sex (while adhereing to all other safety > measure?) No, no value at all. > 9) Any reasons not to go on suppressive therapy if I can get it > through insurance and don't take any other medicines? Are you thinking about going on suppressive therapy and if so.. why? (I'd like to know your reasons because I don't really understand your question.) > 10) Valtrex and alcohol? harmful to the liver? Valtrex is not harmful to your liver. If you drink too much alcohol it can cause problems for your liver. Why do you ask? > 11) Cold sore creams good for the undercarriage as well? No, it's better to keep the area clean and dry. > 12) would someone be contagious after exposure to the virus but before > the first outbreak/symptoms. A person either has herpes or they don't have it. Hang in there, Angela :)  SignatureYahoo! Messenger - angelals1970 STD Message Board: http://yoshi2me.com/phpbb/index.php 1) I had about 6-8 "pimples" on my stuff. Is that a light, medium or > bad out-break. In my case 6-8 would be a big outbreak, usually I get 3-4; three together and one alone etc. Everyone is different though. > 2) as I said, it is just about cleared up but then one more seems to > have popped up. From what I read that doesn't make sense. Could it be > a second OB before the first is finished. Anyone ever experienced > something like that? Mine often do that...a few then a couple more and then sometimes there is a lag in a week and then more, i have strange outbreaks.. everybody is different. > 3) I'm curious about the references to oranges and assorted nuts as > triggers for an OB. Also, what about cheese, yogurt? Any validity to > the idea that avoiding these will help avoid OB or would you say it is > all person to person? What are some other triggers people have > experienced. Is there a list somewhere? My triggers seem to be peanuts, caffeine and stress > 4) l-Lysine? Argenine? What's the story there? Any other > dietary/supplement advice? Peanuts do have a high Lysine ratio so maybe some truth... :: skipping question #5 :: > 6) anyone have an idea of an expected release date of Herpevac? What is a herpevac? I know they have an HPV vaccine, but its not really out yet. I wasnt aware of one for herpes. Even if there is, thats only good for people that dont have it yet. Skipping #7 Skipping#8 Skipping #9 Skipping#10 > 11) Cold sore creams good for the undercarriage as well? Personally I've tried using Abreva on my genital herpes and it didnt really do much. > 12) would someone be contagious after exposure to the virus but before > the first outbreak/symptoms. You can still transmit it without symptoms even if you havent had your primary yet, if thats what you mean. Al Hi Angela, Thanks for taking the time to reply to my post. Let me clarify a few things... > 6) anyone have an idea of an expected release date of Herpevac? What do you mean? Herpevac is a vaccine for women undergoing clinical trials right now http://www.herpesvaccine.nih.gov/dmid/stds/herpevac/studyover_faqs.htm Just wondering if someone knew how long these things take to come to the market from this stage in development. Looks like this is in the final stages... > 7) anyone on valtrex, practicing safe sex and still transmitted the > virus to there partner? If so, can I have some details? Was it after > years, did you get a little lazy with precautions? I've seen the > literature that says out of 750 couples, 2% in the same situation > managed to do so over the course of 8 months. That is from the Valtrex > site. As far as I know I did not transmit herpes to my husband while I was on suppressive therapy. Do you mind if I ask how long you were together and on suppressive therapy? My current GF has not shown any signs yet so I'm quite curious about this. When we make a decision, I want to have as much info as possible. I was under the impression that out sex life was over. therefore I was happy to read the Valtrex trial info. > 9) Any reasons not to go on suppressive therapy if I can get it > through insurance and don't take any other medicines? Are you thinking about going on suppressive therapy and if so.. why? (I'd like to know your reasons because I don't really understand your question.) I'm thinking of suppressive therapy so as to not transmit it to my GF. I'm just wondering why someone wouldn't go on Suppressive Therapy if they could. Has anyone noticed very bad side effects? There doesn't seen to be a decrease in effectiveness. I'm really just wondering about people's feelings on it. > 10) Valtrex and alcohol? harmful to the liver? Valtrex is not harmful to your liver. If you drink too much alcohol it can cause problems for your liver. Why do you ask? Some drugs combine very badly with alcohol. Aceteminaphen for example. Turns to poison in the liver. I haven't found anything that says Valtrex and alcohol are particularly bad... > 12) would someone be contagious after exposure to the virus but before > the first outbreak/symptoms. A person either has herpes or they don't have it. So after the first exposure, one could be contagious the next day? Mike Hi Mike, I have to make a correction. I meant that Peanuts have a high Arguinine ratio not Lysine. Al Hi Al, Thanks for your input! I eat mixed nuts every day so I gonna stick to that and see if there are any problems. I seem to really like the foods everyone says are bad for this condition ;( Mike > Hi Al, > Thanks for your input! I eat mixed nuts every day so I gonna stick to > that and see if there are any problems. I seem to really like the > foods everyone says are bad for this condition ;( > Mike That's me too!! I eat it all pretty much and don't get any outbreaks. And I have genital herpes type-2. Just goes to show you that everybody is different. By all means if you happen to get outbreaks eating certain foods see what you can do to figure it out and go from there. But for the most part I'd be willing to bet that it's going to be stress that will get you more so that any foods. Angela :) SignatureYahoo! Messenger - angelals1970 Social Support Networking Alliance: http://www.yoshi2me.com/herpes-hpv-ssna.html STD Message Board: http://yoshi2me.com/phpbb/index.php You don't get any outbreaks Angela? Are you on Valtrex? I get these shooting pain in the nether regions as well and they are quite annoying. Like getting bitten by a bug. Are they just around during outbreaks or will they always be around? Also does anyone know if it is the caffeine in coffee that is bad or just coffee in general. I could switch to tea but that still has caffeine. If any one wants to know about valtrex. ask me. i know all about it. it is great stuff and it doesn't harm anything. you should start taking valtrex if you are feeling sick or stressed because that is when the most frequent outbreaks occur. > You don't get any outbreaks Angela? I don't get them like I used to. I might get one or two in a year but mostly not at all. I have my history over on my herpes bio -- http://www.yoshi2me.com/herpes-biography.html -- maybe reading that will help you. :) > Are you on Valtrex? In the beginning I treated my outbreaks as I got them. Eventually I went on suppressive therapy for two years. That helped me a lot! Today it is not necessary for me to be on suppression because I don't get outbreaks all the time like I used to AND because my husband doesn't care if he ever contracts it from me. The only time I am on suppression these days is the last six weeks of my pregnancies. :) > I get these > shooting pain in the nether regions as well and they are quite > annoying. Like getting bitten by a bug. Are they just around during > outbreaks or will they always be around? Only time will tell. How long have you had herpes again? > Also does anyone know if it is the caffeine in coffee that is bad or > just coffee in general. I could switch to tea but that still has > caffeine. I drink coffee every morning and they do not cause me to have outbreaks at all. (fyi) Hope this helps, Angela :) SignatureYahoo! Messenger - angelals1970 STD Message Board: http://yoshi2me.com/phpbb/index.php > Hi Angela, > Thanks for taking the time to reply to my post. No problem! :) > Let me clarify a few things... > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > the market from this stage in development. Looks like this is in the > final stages... I knew what Herpevac was but I was not sure what your question meant exactly.. sorry about that. You might try writing to them and asking them how long it will take? >> 7) anyone on valtrex, practicing safe sex and still transmitted the >> virus to there partner? If so, can I have some details? Was it after [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > info as possible. I was under the impression that out sex life was > over. therefore I was happy to read the Valtrex trial info. I was on suppressive therapy for two years. When hubby and I were having sex in the beginning of our relationship we also used condoms. It wasn't until we were married that we through out the condoms and I stopped suppressive therapy. >> 9) Any reasons not to go on suppressive therapy if I can get it >> through insurance and don't take any other medicines? [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > seen to be a decrease in effectiveness. I'm really just wondering > about people's feelings on it. I didn't experience any of the possible side effects while on suppression. I think it's a great thing to do if you are trying to keep your girlfriend from contracting it from you. What does she think of all this? >> 10) Valtrex and alcohol? harmful to the liver? > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Turns to poison in the liver. I haven't found anything that says > Valtrex and alcohol are particularly bad... I honestly don't know.. I would imagine that it's fine. I am an occasional drinker and it never caused any problems for me while I was on suppressive therapy for two years. >> 12) would someone be contagious after exposure to the virus but before >> the first outbreak/symptoms. > > A person either has herpes or they don't have it. > > So after the first exposure, one could be contagious the next day? A person is either going to contract it or they won't contract it. It sometimes takes a few days for the antibodies to build up once it's been contracted. An excellent resource that you might want to take a look at is the free herpes handbook over on www.westoverheights.com -- I think that will help to explain a lot for you. Hope this helps, Angela :) SignatureYahoo! Messenger - angelals1970 Herpes Help: http://www.yoshi2me.com/ STD Message Board: http://yoshi2me.com/phpbb/index.php > Hi everyone, > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > idea what you are talking about... Should i be bathing in Wheat-germ? > Or should I be eating it? Smoking it? Wearing it? Easy; buy a bottle of Vitamin E oil made from Wheat germ, brake a couple of capsules on your sores; Purchase, as well, a bottle of alfalfa from any farmacy; take a few pills and make a powder from them, then sprinkle a little alfalfa powder on top of that vitamin E on the sores. > 6) anyone have an idea of an expected release date of Herpevac? > [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > Mike |
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