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dannie.94@hotmail.com - 22 Jan 2006 16:15 GMT
I got diagnosed with HPV (the kind that causes cervical cancer last
year).  I might also have herpes.  My tests came back borderline with
.98 result.  I'm retaking it again to make sure.  I'm scared.  I want
to get married and have kids.  Has anyone found happiness
(love/marriage) with this condition?  I feel so dirty, so depressed.  I
can barely live with myself.
Al - 22 Jan 2006 19:02 GMT
Hello Dannie,

Herpes and HPV are very common, in fact about 20% of the population in the
US has either of these genitally. When I found out I had HPV about 10 years
ago, I was miserable, because I felt dirty and unclean. Later when I found
out I had herpes, it wasn't so much of an emotional trauma, but still hurt.
I ended up going on antidepressants to deal with some of the herpes related
depression.

I ended up having alot of trouble at first meeting woman when I had to tell
them I had herpes. Alot said "see-ya!" right off and some I told later and
they still got turned off. I finally decided to go to a support group for
people living with herpes and met a woman who also has genital herpes like
me. She was a little nervous about the fact that I also have hpv because she
didn't have that, but she accepted it. Things are working out very well
between us and we have been together about 9 months now. Sometimes you have
to tell yourself that if they can't except you for having herpes, they
aren't worth it. Sometimes it might be better for some people to look at a
herpes support area. It just depends on the person.

There are alot of good groups out there such as www.yoshi2me.com and others.
You could look at www.westoverheights.com also. Remember one thing...You are
NOT alone.

Al

> I got diagnosed with HPV (the kind that causes cervical cancer last
> year).  I might also have herpes.  My tests came back borderline with
> .98 result.  I'm retaking it again to make sure.  I'm scared.  I want
> to get married and have kids.  Has anyone found happiness
> (love/marriage) with this condition?  I feel so dirty, so depressed.  I
> can barely live with myself.
dannie.94@hotmail.com - 22 Jan 2006 19:28 GMT
Thanks Al.  I did meet a man after the diagnosis and we were together
for 7 months.  He was a jerk though.  I told him what I had and he
accepted it.  He admitted he was into S&M stuff so I accepted that (who
the hell was I to judge).  He treated me like crap and I accepted it
because I felt like crap/dirty. I will never be with someone who's into
that stuff again.
I want to meet kind individuals and the trauma of the diagnosis still
sticks one year and a half later.  I have an anxiety disorder which
causes all these worries and guilt to race in my head.
I practiced safe sex and look what happend.
Grant - 23 Jan 2006 00:48 GMT
Hi Dannie,

Don't despair!  Pretty much all of us have been there.  And I can tell you that
it does get better and will become a minor, insignificant annoyance in your life
and nothing more.

We get married.  We have kids.  We are happy.  Just take the time you need to
get your own head around it and realize it isn't any big thing.  We're here to
answer questions, so ask away.

ar

>I got diagnosed with HPV (the kind that causes cervical cancer last
>year).  I might also have herpes.  My tests came back borderline with
>.98 result.  I'm retaking it again to make sure.  I'm scared.  I want
>to get married and have kids.  Has anyone found happiness
>(love/marriage) with this condition?  I feel so dirty, so depressed.  I
>can barely live with myself.
dannie.94@hotmail.com - 23 Jan 2006 13:01 GMT
Thanks.  That's good to hear.  I've been a mess lately.  Lots of guilt
issues.  Well, here is a question.  What is a breakout like?  I've
never had one.  I've had acne in the private area but I've had that
before I was ever sexually active.

Have you also heard of false positive scenarios with the HSVII test?
My test was borderline.  I just took another blood test the other day
and am waiting for the results.
Grant - 23 Jan 2006 13:26 GMT
Hi Dannie,

Breakouts are different for everyone, so I really can't tell you what to expect.
I am lucky in that my HPV was easily treated because I had warts which were
removed and never came back.  I understand that is NOT the kind that contributes
to cancer.  And I have type 1 genital herpes which is generally less severe than
type 2.  Though the first two years I had it were very difficult and painful.  I
work hard at staying healthy by eating right and exercising.  I also try not to
stress out too much.  :)  I haven't had an outbreak in many, many years.

Some people never have outbreaks.  Others have just an itch.  Some have just a
rash.  Some of a pimple looking thing--but often pimple looking things are just
pimples.  Some have a horrible time with their herpes.  There are certain
triggers you can learn to avoid, but triggers are different for everyone.  And I
learned the hard way to never, ever take a steroid.  I was on prednisone for
three months for my thyroid disease and that lowered my immune system and opened
me up for the worst herpes EVER.  It was weeks of torture and pain and was quite
unbearable.  So, no more steroids for me.

The blood test you are taking isn't the best one around.  Sometimes it is
difficult to figure out what those numbers mean.  The gold standard is the
Herpes Specific Western Blot.  It will say, Positive for --and then the type.
Or, negative.  So easy and no guesswork.  Unfortunately, most doctors don't know
anything about it.  False positives aren't too common.  False negatives can be
more common mainly if you are tested too soon after infection.

I hope that answers most of your questions.

ar

>Thanks.  That's good to hear.  I've been a mess lately.  Lots of guilt
>issues.  Well, here is a question.  What is a breakout like?  I've
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>My test was borderline.  I just took another blood test the other day
>and am waiting for the results.
Angela S. - 23 Jan 2006 13:59 GMT
> Thanks.  That's good to hear.  I've been a mess lately.  Lots of guilt
> issues.  Well, here is a question.  What is a breakout like?

Outbreaks vary from person to person. Some people have outbreaks that they
can see and feel, some people have outbreaks that they can't see or feel,
and others don't get outbreaks all that often.

> I've
> never had one.  I've had acne in the private area but I've had that
> before I was ever sexually active.

You've never had one that you know of... right?

> Have you also heard of false positive scenarios with the HSVII test?

False positives are not that common at all. What type of test did you take
in order to find out that you have herpes and which type do you have?

> My test was borderline.  I just took another blood test the other day
> and am waiting for the results.

Hang in there,

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dannie.94@hotmail.com - 23 Jan 2006 16:06 GMT
It was a blood test.  I don't know the specific testing kit used by the
lab.  It's being rerun.  It gave a .98 result.  Borderline according to
my gyno.  She couldn't tell me I had hsv II either way.  Hence
rerunning the test.

As for the why I feel like I will never have a relationship or get
married..  Well, I didn't get one but two stds.  One is enough to cause
people to run.  I'm know saint.  I haven't had just one or two
boyfriends in my life (I did use condoms though).  I just feel like
some guy is going to see me as a dirty whore.  The stigma is horrible.
It's hard enough to meet anyone decent out there.
Angela S. - 23 Jan 2006 20:24 GMT
> It was a blood test.  I don't know the specific testing kit used by the
> lab.  It's being rerun.  It gave a .98 result.  Borderline according to
> my gyno.  She couldn't tell me I had hsv II either way.  Hence
> rerunning the test.

* I understand

> As for the why I feel like I will never have a relationship or get
> married..  Well, I didn't get one but two stds.  One is enough to cause
> people to run.

* I think you are probably being a little too hard on yourself... don't you
think?

> I'm know saint.  I haven't had just one or two
> boyfriends in my life (I did use condoms though).  I just feel like
> some guy is going to see me as a dirty whore.  The stigma is horrible.

* The stigma is horrible because the folks that have an std tend to be too
hard on themselves.

> It's hard enough to meet anyone decent out there.

* Well hopefully people will see you for the person that you are and won't
really care about what you have. Besides.. when  you love somebody isn't
that love supposed to be unconditional?

Hang in there,

Angela :)

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dannie.94@hotmail.com - 24 Jan 2006 01:37 GMT
Thanks.  I keep tormenting myself about this.  I have an anxiety
condition and it's making the situation worse.  The feelings of
self-hatred and depression are just non-stop.
Angela S. - 25 Jan 2006 03:35 GMT
> Thanks.  I keep tormenting myself about this.  I have an anxiety
> condition and it's making the situation worse.  The feelings of
> self-hatred and depression are just non-stop.

Have you discussed these feelings with your doctor Or thought about seeing
some sort of counselor? You know it's ok to be upset at first because it can
come on as a big shocker. I know it did for me. I was angry for two years
about it...

Try not to be too hard on yourself,

Angela

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Angela S. - 27 Jan 2006 19:07 GMT
> Thanks.  I keep tormenting myself about this.  I have an anxiety
> condition and it's making the situation worse.  The feelings of
> self-hatred and depression are just non-stop.

Are you getting any help for this?

Angela

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dannie.94@hotmail.com - 28 Jan 2006 01:15 GMT
No.  I finished my therapy and I was honky dory for a while.  Then, I
started getting anxious and depressed.  I've had a lot happening.  My
sister got married, job is stagnant and I'm turning 30.  I just got
some unsettling news yesterday.  I might have a hormone condition
(polycystic ovarian fibrosis) that may make it hard for me to have
kids.  The doctor was testing that along with the retest of herpes when
I had blood taken. I have to sit with her when she comes back from
vacation.   So, now I might have to tell a future partner that I got
hpv, herpes and may have a hard time having kids because of a genetic
condition.  This is too much.  

Thank you all again for listening.
Grant - 24 Jan 2006 01:54 GMT
Hi Dannie,

It's okay to feel the way you do!  But do know that when you change your views
of yourself, then others don't seem to react as negatively.  I mean, heck, I got
herpes and hpv from my first lover.  My first time out of the gate, so to speak.
I was pretty sure my life was over.  And here I am, much older, and, I hope, a
bit wiser.  So believe me when I tell you things do get better.  You may find
the stds are a blessing in disguise.  They tend to weed out the jerks.

Take care,
ar

>It was a blood test.  I don't know the specific testing kit used by the
>lab.  It's being rerun.  It gave a .98 result.  Borderline according to
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>some guy is going to see me as a dirty whore.  The stigma is horrible.
>It's hard enough to meet anyone decent out there.
shesand - 25 Jan 2006 01:06 GMT
I agree with ar. I thought my life was over when I was diagnosed with
herpes 6 years ago, but then I realized that my life wasnt' over and it
was a blessing in disguise and it did help out with the guy search. If
a guy didn't want to be with me b.c of it then so be it, at first it
was hard to deal with and get over, but after each time it got alittle
easier.

ss
Angela S. - 25 Jan 2006 03:36 GMT
> It's okay to feel the way you do!  But do know that when you change your
> views
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> find
> the stds are a blessing in disguise.  They tend to weed out the jerks.

I could not have said it any better myself. This is all so true!

Hang in there,

Angela :)
dannie.94@hotmail.com - 25 Jan 2006 12:55 GMT
When I got diagnosed I was already in therapy for an anxiety disorder.
Maybe because I got into another relationship it held back the shock
and anger.  I went off zoloft a few months ago and it's been hard to
adjust without it.  I want to try.  Just too many issues to deal with
at once (std, work, turning 30, etc).  I've vented on an anxiety
website and they urged me to go to a site like this with people in my
situation.  It has helped to see other people with my predicament.
But, regardless the guilt, shame and disgust are so prevalent.
Angela S. - 25 Jan 2006 17:17 GMT
> I went off zoloft a few months ago and it's been hard to
> adjust without it.  I want to try.

I take Zoloft and it's the absolute best thing for me. I don't plan on
stopping it any time soon. I have no control over the chemical imbalance
that is taking place and perhaps you don't either? Have you thought about
how maybe you can't help how you are feeling because of the imbalance?

Hang in there,

Angela :)
dannie.94@hotmail.com - 25 Jan 2006 17:37 GMT
good point.  thank you all very much for your imput.  this has been
very hard.
dannie.94@hotmail.com - 25 Jan 2006 17:37 GMT
good point.  thank you all very much for your imput.  this has been
very hard.
shesand - 25 Jan 2006 17:48 GMT
I'm on zoloft also. I don't plan on getting off of it at all ever! When
I was first diagnosed, i thought about going to a counselor to work
through the issues and emotions I was feeling, b.c none of my friends
could relate. But, then I was on AOL back then, and I joined a support
group on there and talked to a lot of people and it helped a lot.
Also, what helped me when I talked to a partner about it, it also helps
if you don't sound like it's the worse thing that could happen to you.
I know when I talked to someone about it and I just talked about it
like it was no big deal, they reacted better--but I did give them all
the facts also.
shesand - 25 Jan 2006 17:48 GMT
I'm on zoloft also. I don't plan on getting off of it at all ever! When
I was first diagnosed, i thought about going to a counselor to work
through the issues and emotions I was feeling, b.c none of my friends
could relate. But, then I was on AOL back then, and I joined a support
group on there and talked to a lot of people and it helped a lot.
Also, what helped me when I talked to a partner about it, it also helps
if you don't sound like it's the worse thing that could happen to you.
I know when I talked to someone about it and I just talked about it
like it was no big deal, they reacted better--but I did give them all
the facts also.
dannie.94@hotmail.com - 26 Jan 2006 02:54 GMT
Yeah, my friends can't relate either (which is a blessing on their
part).  How did you frame the talk with your boyfriend/girlfriend?
shesand - 27 Jan 2006 22:19 GMT
with the current boyfriend. I just told him that I needed to talk to
him before we got sexual. we sat down and I just came right out and
told him " I have Genital Herpes". he sat there for a min. and said
okay....... then he started asking questions and we just talked about
it and that was a year ago and he still asks questions from day to day,
but he's comfortable enough with me and about the issue. I was just
matter of frank with him and told him everything that he wanted to
know. He would ask me all kinds of questions.  I guess I got pretty
lucky with this one.
shesand - 27 Jan 2006 22:21 GMT
Dannie, I found that support groups like this helped me get my hurt,
anger and everything else out in the open.  It helped me tremendously.
But, if you feel you need to, I would definitely look into seeing a
counselor that is experienced with this issue.
Angela S. - 23 Jan 2006 13:56 GMT
>I got diagnosed with HPV (the kind that causes cervical cancer last
> year).  I might also have herpes.  My tests came back borderline with
> .98 result.  I'm retaking it again to make sure.  I'm scared.  I want
> to get married and have kids.  Has anyone found happiness
> (love/marriage) with this condition?  I feel so dirty, so depressed.  I
> can barely live with myself.

What makes you believe that you can't get married and have kids?

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Stan - 28 Jan 2006 01:58 GMT
Dannie: Something i did and someone may have already covered it , make a
folder somewhere on your computer or wherever and keep a log if and when
you do have an outbreak , what did i eat , what was i depressed about
how long the outbreak lasted. It never crossed my mind about the steriod
injections i had to have last summer . I had one of the longest
outbreaks i ever had...thanks guys and gals...glad ya'll are here...Stan

>>I got diagnosed with HPV (the kind that causes cervical cancer last
>>year).  I might also have herpes.  My tests came back borderline with
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>
> What makes you believe that you can't get married and have kids?
lavender - 30 Jan 2006 03:41 GMT
> I got diagnosed with HPV (the kind that causes cervical cancer last
> year).  I might also have herpes.  My tests came back borderline with
> .98 result.  I'm retaking it again to make sure.  I'm scared.  I want
> to get married and have kids.  Has anyone found happiness
> (love/marriage) with this condition?  I feel so dirty, so depressed.  I
> can barely live with myself.

Aw, sweetie, herpes is no big deal.  You'll find a guy easy.  I have
had herpes for almost 20 years and I have always told future partners
that I had it before we had sex and I never, ever had a problem with
any of them except two -- one who didn't know what herpes was (can you
believe it?!) and another who thought I was making it up to get out of
having sex with him.  As it turned out, I decided not to have sex with
either one those guys, though both chased me for a while AFTER I told
them about having herpes.  I guess it didn't bother them!  The men I
was with never cared.  I clearly remember one saying, "That's not a
problem."  Anyway, I've been married for almost 10 years and yes I have
found happiness, love, and marriage.  Having herpes does not affect
that at all.  I have many friends who have herpes (New York, you know
-- actually, one of my best friends got herpes from the same guy I did)
and they all have gotten married, have great careers  and kids.  So
relax and don't worry about it.  You'll be fine.  You're not dirty and
you shouldn't be depressed, honey.  It'll be just fine.
 
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